It's just virtue signalling, ignore it
Amy Coney-Barrett | Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
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It's just virtue signalling, ignore it
That made me chuckle so thanks for that. Not sure how anything of what I said would be seen as republican though. If anything its the opposite - I despair at the systems in place in America and they absolutely rely them and would be in full support of them so I'd say I'd be at odds with their entire world point of view. Just out of interest what did I say that gave you the impression that I think like a republican?
Oh, nothing at all. I was just trying to divert the caf on caf violence to
's.Yeah that sounds about right. In many ways it's the same mindset that caused Brexit in the UK. Your life sucks but it will only get better if you blame everything on these even poorer people over there.
Kagan being moderate does not make her more qualified though. The political beliefs are not what makes a judge qualified.
By all accounts, she knows her shit well and that independent judge association rated her as ‘well qualified’ (to be fair, they did that for all other SCOTUS). She has opposite beliefs to me, but that does not make her stupid.
The only problem is the way how she was chosen. Which would have been alright if McTurtle did not steal a SCOTUS from Democrats four years ago. And while U agree that the way how SCOTUS are chosen is batshit crazy, that is what has always happened there.
Oh, nothing at all. I was just trying to divert the caf on caf violence to
Fair play, I wish you luck. You made me smile anyway.
I guess I would engage you on this point. When you speak of "reaping and sowing", even in the context of only Republican's it presupposes that their mindset is wholly their choice. I think it is striking that Trump's base is uneducated white men and it makes complete sense. This group is usually poor and feels hopeless in their situation. One thing they can have pride in and hang their hat on it the concept of American exceptionalism, and so it is no surprise that the entire Trump platform revolves around callbacks to this and how the other side is threatening it. They are not helped by the "history" taught in large parts of this country.
As an example, I was watching a video the other day of a young man watching Kenji by Fort Minor. He was blown away by the concept of internment camps and kept asking what book this was based on. This and slavery, and the trail of tears and a myriad of other American atrocities are barely covered, if at all. Even in California the internment camps were barely covered in my AP US History class. I was lucky that my dad's Friend was born in Manzanar and took us there as kids to explain what this place was and how his family was affected by it.
Anyways, all of this results in a large group of people who believe in a saintly, sanitized, fictional view of America that they were taught. Any attack on this vision is met with hostility because they have no reference for America ever being the bad guy. So it is not surprising that can be herded like sheep. I am not trying to excuse the mindset or actions of these people just to frame how I think we got into this place.
Interesting.
I’ll have to check with my kids that just went through the AP US History to see if they know about manzanar, etc.
I’ll have to check with my kids that just went through the AP US History to see if they know about manzanar, etc.
If Democrats aren't planning on packing the court, they should retire from politics.
The lack of comments on the issue makes me think they will, but their history of being spineless cnuts, trying to woo the moderate Republicans doesn't fill me with confidence.
The lack of comments on the issue makes me think they will, but their history of being spineless cnuts, trying to woo the moderate Republicans doesn't fill me with confidence.
Gotta win the GE and Senate to do anything and I fear they'll feck up both. I'll take the Senate at minimum and make Trump a lame dick for four years but hopefully Biden wins the GE. Still iffy on the Dems doing anything worthwhile in combatting their opposition like-for-like.
Yes this is essentially my own impression - I don't blame the individuals as it's not their fault they were indoctrinated from birth into the American culture and as you say this fictional view of America - that's not their fault. It's also not their fault of their socio-economic circumstances of their family which they happened to be born into. So I totally get why people from a certain background, with associated limited life opportunities might see the likes of Trump as very appealing. It's very sad really but as I've said several times before - although I can have empathy with many Americans and can understand why some of them think like they do - I also understand that they are also the only people who can change the current situation in America and there is a significant number of Americans who seem to be happy for things to continue as they are - probably because they don't know anything else and for all of us change can be scary. The same can be said of many other countries of course, including the UK which has disgusting wealth disparity and is run by the super wealthy to keep poor people poor and to keep themselves rich and powerful. The American culture though is something else though and I find very little to admire in it.
Dems retain House, win Senate yet somehow lose the presidency is like 4% chance. You can make enough retirement money betting on that.
If they can steal the presidency then Senate is done as well. Fill up your form for Canadian citizenship in that case.
Out of interest how could they ever have come to this opinion?
I'd guess it's because they only view Christianity as being precisely what they happen to believe in so anything outside of that is not 'proper' Christianity.
Unusually intelligent
. She is an educated woman, and law professor. What did you actually expect? Ability to participate in a normal discourse and not scream about beer and calendars should not be the only requirement for a supreme court justice.Too cold to go north. Bahamas/Caribbean on the other hand...
Hmm...
Let's talk about Mitch McConnell's great fiction....
American evangelicals are a strange breed and not like Protestants in the Church of England. They don't accept that Jesus appointed Peter as the first Pope, they believe Popes have no authority and they consider Catholicism as a subversion of the "true" Christian faith. It comes from their evangelical tradition of Sola Scriptura, which means that they base their whole faith on what's written in the Bible, which they often interpret literally (hence you get strange ideas like young earth creationism rather than an acceptance of evolution).
Catholic faith is 3-pronged - the Bible, apostolic tradition (oral, handed down over the centuries) and the authority of the current Pope who continues the work commenced by Peter, the first Pope.
Are there any Protestants that recognize the Pope?
I have yet to meet a conservative "Christian" in this country. The most judgmental people I've ever come across in my life and pretty dumb in a lot of instances.
I remember a work colleague of mine died tragically and a few weeks after the
funeral his step father, who was a pastor came by the business. We had a 20 minute chat and shared a few stories of a truly great lad. He then proceeded to take a huge phone out of his bag and went in to a sales pitch for this shitty hunk of junk that looked like a Hollywood prop.
Protestants don't recognise the supremacy of the Pope because they're not members of the Catholic Church, but they recognise that's he's an important religious leader. There's mutual respect between mainstream Protestants and Catholics, we are all Christians and we have many points where our faiths align.
Just wondered because you made it sound like not accepting the Pope made the US versions of Protestantism special.
They're not special for not accepting the authority of the Pope, but they are special for believing he is some kind of Antichrist, which is not uncommon amongst American evangelicals.
I was going to say. A non-factor in NYC, but everytime I visit family in NC it feels strange with Sunday mass and all the religious people/sentiment.
Not quite.
Im sure they think it even more now after appointing a black Cardinal and his comments about same sex couples. Oddly that makes me feel much better about being raised Catholic all of the sudden *shrugs*.
Whoa now man. You trying to start a civil war or something?
Well, if they are actually Christians, and not christians, they will pose no threat as they should be bound by the tenants of their faith (Thou shall not kill, turn the other cheek, whatever you do to the least of these you do unto me, etc.). But since they are likely not then why should they care.
Penn did a good take on how US politics basically sandwiched all faiths into being christian.
Not more qualified but more acceptable to all (or most).
I'm sure she isn't stupid (despite holding many views I view as stupid due to her religious fanatacism) but there are hundreds or thousands of terrific law professors and lots of far more experienced appeals court judges. So like Kagan, she was far from the most suitable for the job and only political bias got here anywhere near the job. That is my problem with it. I don't know if you remember the poster Jason/Beared but no genius who is a lawyer and a staunch republican? I keep in touch with him and he is very much of this mind and could expand on this (and does) at great length.
The problem is the way she was chosen is also the why she was chosen. Without it she wouldn't even have been in the race. It is a bizzare process when the US is allegedly proud of their separation of power which is virtually non-existent at the highest levels.
I'm not too keen on him but Antichrist? If he is the Antichrist what did they think of his predecessors?
Presumably all Antichrists too!
What @Penna said. They view the Catholic Church as a satanic organization.
Except for ACB. She's okay. Why? Because "the Lord works in mysterious ways"... just like with Trump. Simone Biles levels of mental gymnastics.
ACB is to Catholicism as the Southern Baptists are to Protestantism. It's deliciously ironic.
I wonder what she would think of the Catholic church I went to when visiting my sister in Chicago. She lived right next to boys town and the church ministered inclusively, and extensively, to the LGTBQ+ community. The mass was awesome (for a Catholic mass I guess).
I grew up I'm a Pentecostal family which is an offshoot of Protestanism. We also did not recognize the authority of the Pope. Just accepted he is an important figure in the Christian faith.