Villas Boas came 6th.
I mean a CL final, 2nd place finish, 3rd place finish x 2 is quite a bit better than them two considering they competed with Jurgen Klopp, Conte, Pep, Jose and the level of competition in the premier league since.
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I mean a CL final, 2nd place finish, 3rd place finish x 2 is quite a bit better than them two considering they competed with Jurgen Klopp, Conte, Pep, Jose and the level of competition in the premier league since.
Didn't rewatch, if I remember correctly they were talking about Harry Kane, something was asked to Poch with regards to Kane, and he goes something like (sic): "HK is the best striker in France... (pauses a second)... England, Europe..."
It felt like a Freudian Slip to me, maybe his ties to PSG as a player means he has already been approached to take over after Tuchel...
Last man i want to take over. I will never understand the hype around this man. Him and Allegri = No thanks. I would not mind the coach who manages the team we just beat 5-0. Might sound weird after the trashing we gave them, but he is the only one i'd take over Ole at this point. Germans folks.. thats our solution!
Let’s have Klinsmann then
I agree. Manager needs to fit strategy or the opposite way or else Ole is probably the best shout.
He was sacked the following year having been in 7th place at Christmas so he went backwards. Poch took over and came 5th then went to 3rd so it was progression not regression
The Allegri shouts will turn to moans once he takes over and implements his tumescent pragmatic style 
I'd take a chance on Poch before one of the young hipster German picks that seem ever more popular on here. Giving him the resources the club affords with his premier league pedigree would be a stronger mix for me than plucking one of Rose or Nagelsmann with less experience and haven't won anything either themselves in a foreign league.
Let the likes of Bayern and or Dortmund take the gamble on them instead first to see how they handle the pressures of managing a big club
I'd take a chance on Poch before one of the young hipster German picks that seem ever more popular on here. Giving him the resources the club affords with his premier league pedigree would be a stronger mix for me than plucking one of Rose or Nagelsmann with less experience and haven't won anything either themselves in a foreign league.
Let the likes of Bayern and or Dortmund take the gamble on them instead first to see how they handle the pressures of managing a big club
Looks like they contacted poch..... That seals it Ole is done.
And Poch was sacked having been 14th so he went backwards.
I'm guessing his CL form isn't helping him, interesting if PSG pull the trigger on him and try for Poch.
5 Years later! the point is the poster claimed he wasn't much better than AVB which is objectively false. Villas Boas got sacked versus meagre competition. Neither SAF, Klopp, Pep or any greats were there bar a waning Jose. Solskjaer was in the league! His rivals were Jose, Pellegrini, Rodgers, Giggs, Martinez and an upcoming Poch at smalltime Southampton.
He is not wrong though. As long as Woodward and Judge are in the positions they are in and the scouting team is as trash as it currently is a new manager will not fix us.
Exactly what makes Poch more ready then?
A shed load more experience for one. I’m not saying he’s my number one choice but putting a 30 something coach who’s only just started building something at Leipzig in charge of a world sports institution is a recipe for disaster. Let him carry on the project. If in a couple of seasons he’s still doing well then yes let’s consider him.
Poch can’t fail to win the league at PSG
Poch is level above ole but in the end it wont matter if the board doesnt back the manager...
Jose was probably the best united era post fergie and he turned sour after the board failed to back him.. started turning on the squad and ultimately isolated himself and got sacked. Jose assesments on certain players has turned out to be true. Specifical pogba and martial.
Even before the board failed to back him he turned sour, he was a fecking misery in that second season mostly, its why so many were willing to have him go even though we finished 2nd, he made us depressed, he just seemed to totally hate his existence at the club.
I never got that criticism about that Leicester season. It was a two horse race because his Spurs team was closer than everyone else. This criticism has always just amounted to "if you discount all the teams Spurs were better than, they were worse than everyone". I don't get it.
They were Leicester’s title rivals. For a good chunk of that season they were Leicester’s only title rivals as the other big title chasers had crap seasons.
Somehow they contrived to finish third. St. Totteringham’s Day for Arsenal fans was extra sweet that year because Spurs were supposed to finish above them and they didn’t expect to pull it off.
Yea it was a fluke Leicester win but it also highlighted that when things go Pochettino’s way and the conditions are there for the big teams to have poor results, he doesn’t take advantage of them.
Yeah but why did Spurs not have a crap season when all the others did? Why were Spurs Leicester's only title rivals? Why were they supposed to finish above them?
To me, this claim gives him no credit for Spurs challenge for the title and all the blame for not winning it.
Ex player and has said he wants to manage there at some point.
You are looking at his age instead of how many years he has actually coached at a top level.
Whilst he is still without a job I see the same thing happening as we saw when Jose was available with LVG severely under pressure in that December of 2015
Please not Poch. We will big six bottlers again.
NOT HIM PLEASE.
NOT HIM PLEASE.
If poch was such a hot commodity, anyone of the top clubs would have taken him on by now. We've fallen into the trap of just giving the name to the biggest name available candidate in LVG and Jose and that spectacularly failed.
Poch has not won anything yet. E really should think long and hard before appointing someone else now, not just a scatter gun approach
Poch has not won anything yet. E really should think long and hard before appointing someone else now, not just a scatter gun approach
No thanks, lads.
This. Especially when one considers that Ole gave the thumbs up to a 145m signing deal which lead with us buying a runner, a tackler and a CB with no pace whatsoever. Leicester had probably laughed their way to the bank with that one.
Some fans are confusing tbh. They want a DOF while concurrently they want the club to buy every player the manager want even if that happens to be ridiculously overpriced. The reality is that most duds we bought were down to decisions taken by the manager.
Poch is not the answer. We have played the best football post SAF under Ole, there is no doubt about that. This squad looks good because he is nurturing it in a direction, that's all credit to him. Poch is simply going to stick to a 4 2 3 1 again and again, with very little flexibility. We are able to try different things, especially in offensive phases and that should mean a lot to us. Let Poch go to Zenith or wherever he wants... wasting another time for another manager at United is not the solution anymore.
There is no manager out there who can come and fit into our current ecosystem.
The players seems to like the current structure at the club, motivation levels still seem very high.
It’s a very bad time to change things.
Think about it you’re a player, someone you like leaves and in his place comes someone else. He won’t lift them.
Klopp and Pep maybe would but they’re not available.
Solskjaer is thinking about Man Utd, other managers will be more selfish. There are signs the club are getting on the right track again, a plan, a long term view.
Yes, Liverpool might match our 20, so be it, we need strong leadership, the alternative is much worse.
The players seems to like the current structure at the club, motivation levels still seem very high.
It’s a very bad time to change things.
Think about it you’re a player, someone you like leaves and in his place comes someone else. He won’t lift them.
Klopp and Pep maybe would but they’re not available.
Solskjaer is thinking about Man Utd, other managers will be more selfish. There are signs the club are getting on the right track again, a plan, a long term view.
Yes, Liverpool might match our 20, so be it, we need strong leadership, the alternative is much worse.
Hopefully it's a matter of when not if. Wouldn't put it past Woody to already have an agreement in place for Poch to come in the moment we lose a certain amount of games/points. Whether he is going to lead us to glory is really not a problem, the main priority is to get the most out of the talent we have, something Ole has very clearly failed to do. This may be the platform for Poch to prove himself, but even if it isn't, he will most likely take us up another couple of levels. No club succeeded by standing still and holding on to the past, something we have done for the past 2 years, if not the past 8. Our club, coach and half its fanbase are now pretty much exactly what we were mocking Pool for the past 25 years.
How can you say Poch is going to play a certain way. Both Pep and Klopp have changed their style from what they first started with. Even Mourhino is adapting a little. The problem with Ole is he simply is unable to do that.
Poch has played 4 2 3 1 for all his time at Spurs and only the last season has tried something. If a player was injured, he just slotted in another player, even if it wasn't the right profile. We know this is exactly what's going to happen, it's just his way of playing.
Ole has done 4 2 3 1, 4 4 1 1, 4 2 4, 3 4 3, 3 5 2, 3 2 5, 3 3 2 2 and a bunch of variation already and have won big games as well. We know who is able to change shape and who is not.
Poch had a great record against the other 5 top teams in regards to him having the lowest budget and being at a team who let’s be honest, were nothing more than bottlejob losers against the big teams before he came in.
Unless you mean in regards to winning trophies of course. That’s wrong too though, as he won the Audi Cup. Lol
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uhhh no. He sucked big time vs the big 6.
Yeah that was from 2018 onwards where he generally just sucked aside from the Champions League. Check his record pre-2018-19. It was nothing astonishing, but it was good. He recorded many good wins against teams with budgets far in excess of his.
My mind mirrors our performances - changes continuously - but I think you’re line of thinking is where I’m at in the cold light of day. Not sure I can handle another start again project under new management when they, quite understandably, will want a year to weed out the unwanted, another year to bed in the replacements and a third year of being on the ‘right track’.
This is what scares me the most.