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Decided I’d sit downstairs with my mum for a bit for once and be sociable.

Ended up in an argument because she brought up veggie burgers not being able to be called veggie burgers by order of Brussels.

Brought up the ‘fact’ that we’re not allowed bendy cucumbers

Then said she had never been influenced in her life.

I hate what Brexit has done to people.
 
matherto said:
Decided I’d sit downstairs with my mum for a bit for once and be sociable.

Ended up in an argument because she brought up veggie burgers not being able to be called veggie burgers by order of Brussels.

Brought up the ‘fact’ that we’re not allowed bendy cucumbers

Then said she had never been influenced in her life.

I hate what Brexit has done to people.
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Noticed my own mum started to "not be influenced" by stuff in a similar way after downloading the Mail app for news. She's never read that shit before but because the app is easy to use it's now her number one source. Thankfully she realises 99% of the stuff is guff, but every now and then she'll come out with stuff like "did you know we waste £20 billion a year propping up orange farms in Spain?"
 
matherto said:
Ended up in an argument because she brought up veggie burgers not being able to be called veggie burgers by order of Brussels.
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Should have told her to please stop calling them that or you’d have to call the police.
 
Way to go Liz! Now get that US deal done.

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Adisa said:
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But when did truth and logic apply to Brexit.
For so many people, Brexit is not about logic.
It is about an ideology and a vision based largely on lies and totally undeliverable outcomes.
And we are about to find that out the hard way.
 
calodo2003 said:
How is this better for y’all than it was before?

If it’s not a marked improvement on how it was, does this all come down to racism in the end?
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I have, in past, said it was racism, but that was unfair. The reason a lot of remainers called it racism is because we knew it was going to be a disaster economically and in terms of the UKs influence and prestige so the only explanation for voting for it from our perspective was prejudice, however most of the low information voters who voted for Brexit were misled by fairly sophisticated advertising and misinformation campaigns about the 'costs of membership', the way 'the EU takes advantage of the UK' and the 'benefits/opportunities of leaving', and the Remain campaigns reaction to it completely played into their hands and simply reinforced the Leave sides messages.
 
TheGame said:
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It was the most likely outcome once Biden was elected.

So now we have 15/20 years of rule taking and economic stagnation while the rest of the world progresses until we go crawling back to the EU and have to accept a far worse deal than the one we had.

Outstanding work you f u cking tools.
 
NWRed said:
I have, in past, said it was racism, but that was unfair. The reason a lot of remainers called it racism is because we knew it was going to be a disaster economically and in terms of the UKs influence and prestige so the only explanation for voting for it from our perspective was prejudice, however most of the low information voters who voted for Brexit were misled by fairly sophisticated advertising and misinformation campaigns about the 'costs of membership', the way 'the EU takes advantage of the UK' and the 'benefits/opportunities of leaving', and the Remain campaigns reaction to it completely played into their hands and simply reinforced the Leave sides messages.
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So, instead of just racism as the total, it might be more appropriate to say it was a confluence of many of small minded, negative ‘-isms’ that exist in the Leavers? Negative phobias that already living in their minds into which the campaign tapped for the source of the Leave energy?

Was anything made up out of whole cloth by the campaign or was it just reading correctly a large swath of the country & playing into the worst of them?
 
calodo2003 said:
So, instead of just racism as the total, it might be more appropriate to say it was a confluence of many of small minded, negative ‘-isms’ that exist in the Leavers? Negative phobias that already living in their minds into which the campaign tapped for the source of the Leave energy?

Was anything made up out of whole cloth by the campaign or was it just reading correctly a large swath of the country & playing into the worst of them?
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I would say it was mostly lies of ommision and exaggeration rather than out and out fabrication (although there was plenty of that).

A few examples:

- exaggerated the UKs contribution to the EU budget while failing to mention the huge economic benefit of being a member of the EU

- played on fears of immigration from the middle east by playing up the chances the Turkey becoming a member and it's proximity to Iraq and Syria.

- they described EU nationals as a burden on the NHS (a beloved institution) while failing to mention that whilst EU nationals make up 6% of the population, they make up about 9% of NHS staff, are overwhelmingly of working age so disproportionately contribute to the NHS through taxes, and actually use it less because they're generally young and healthy.
 
NWRed said:
I would say it was mostly lies of ommision and exaggeration rather than out and out fabrication (although there was plenty of that).

A few examples:

- exaggerated the UKs contribution to the EU budget while failing to mention the huge economic benefit of being a member of the EU

- played on fears of immigration from the middle east by playing up the chances the Turkey becoming a member and it's proximity to Iraq and Syria.

- they described EU nationals as a burden on the NHS (a beloved institution) while failing to mention that whilst EU nationals make up 6% of the population, they make up about 9% of NHS staff, are overwhelmingly of working age so disproportionately contribute to the NHS through taxes, and actually use it less because they're generally young and healthy.
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But it all seems like these tactics are geared at the collective ‘-isms’ that exist in the minds on the Leavers.
 
Not sure if this has been shared before. It's narrated by Stephen Fry and they have many great videos fact checking Brexit.



Until the UK starts to reign in the lying industrial complex, like their rag tabloids, it will continue to be more profitable to sell lies. When lying has no consequences, lying becomes a powerful weapon to manipulate people.
 
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The racism angle is a weird one regarding Brexit. The shortfall of white Europeans coming to UK will drop and has dropped and will mean and already is the case the shortfall will be made up from more south Asian, African and middle eastern countries. The so called racist government won't act in the way the typical right wing voter and left wing voter thinks they will.
 
If there is a no deal, is there a risk to the transport of the/a vaccine into the UK?
Especially considering the temperature control requirements.
 
Buster15 said:
If there is a no deal, is there a risk to the transport of the/a vaccine into the UK?
Especially considering the temperature control requirements.
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Possibly, there's a minor crisis bubbling away at the biggest port for the past two weeks. Combine that with Brexit and transport will be painful for January. I expect vaccine's will be flown in, and expedited through the normal import process.
 
Buster15 said:
If there is a no deal, is there a risk to the transport of the/a vaccine into the UK?
Especially considering the temperature control requirements.
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Presume they would be flown in but will a UK-EU aviation agreement or non-agreement come into play, I don't know.

Imagine being in a situation when in 7 weeks time you have no idea how or if any goods can be transported/delivered into the country, especially of this importance.
The people who instigated this have to pay dearly. One day...
 
F-Red said:
Possibly, there's a minor crisis bubbling away at the biggest port for the past two weeks. Combine that with Brexit and transport will be painful for January. I expect vaccine's will be flown in, and expedited through the normal import process.
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You may well be correct about the vaccine being flown in. But the issue remains doesn't it. We, the UK will be importing medical products from the EU with no agreement on how that should be done.

I am sure that plans are in place for this. But it does illustrate what will happen on a broader scale if the government ego's take the place of basic logic.
 
Buster15 said:
You may well be correct about the vaccine being flown in. But the issue remains doesn't it. We, the UK will be importing medical products from the EU with no agreement on how that should be done.

I am sure that plans are in place for this. But it does illustrate what will happen on a broader scale if the government ego's take the place of basic logic.
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The issue just isn't on medical products, it's on absolutely everything we import or export. We're currently trying to work out a scenario in our workplace where we're accepting payment in the EU and shipping when we've left the EU. An operational headache, and with zero clarification from government.
 
It is just staggering that it is THIS bad.

I didn’t want Brexit. I thought it was stupid.

Never did I think four years or so later it’d be going this badly. It’s... horrendous. There’s clear incompetence everywhere and the latest news is an EU negotiator making silly puns on Twitter as the deadline looms large.

Luckily the man who is leading us is the type of man who started the countries’ response to the global pandemic by telling people to shake hands with people in hospitals.
 
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