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If Brexit is going to be the unqualified success they keep telling us it's going to be, why aren't they all sticking around to bask in the glory?
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Seems to me these advisors jumping ship, or at least threatening to, are vote leave. It is almost like they are purposely sabotaging last minute negotiations on purpose.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-dominic-cummings-signals-hell-23002803?
Dominic Cummings signals he'll leave No10 by Christmas after PM's top aide quits
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Anyone with a brain larger than a pea knows that Brexit will be an unmitigated disaster. There is no path where it could lead it to being a success, at least not for the man/woman in the street.
The rats will disappear as soon as they can.
 
F-Red said:
The issue just isn't on medical products, it's on absolutely everything we import or export. We're currently trying to work out a scenario in our workplace where we're accepting payment in the EU and shipping when we've left the EU. An operational headache, and with zero clarification from government.
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Yes I realise that it affects everything. I was just using medical supplies as an example.
I am hopeful that the PM is taking a more sensible stance with the exit of his key adviser and head of Comms.
But time is increasingly tight.
 
FireballXL5 said:
If Brexit is going to be the unqualified success they keep telling us it's going to be, why aren't they all sticking around to bask in the glory?
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I would dearly love someone to explain to me in simple terms, in what possible scenario could Brexit be even remotely a success.
 
Buster15 said:
I would dearly love someone to explain to me in simple terms, in what possible scenario could Brexit be even remotely a success.
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We're no longer prisoners to Brussels. Or something.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Anyone with a brain larger than a pea knows that Brexit will be an unmitigated disaster. There is no path where it could lead it to being a success, at least not for the man/woman in the street.
The rats will disappear as soon as they can.
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I believe they are not only jumping ship but also leaving at a key strategic time to impact negotiations and push us towards no deal.

The behaviour of Cummings could not have been calculated any better to cause maximum damage to the UK.

Does make me think about his Russian connections and his time spent living over there. Especially when combined with the Russian report.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...emlin-interference-scottish-referendum-brexit
Russia report reveals UK government failed to investigate Kremlin interference
Intelligence and security committee publishes long-delayed findings on Russian influence over UK politics
 
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I see the rats are abandoning the ship they helped sink. No doubt well paid private sector gigs await. Colour me surprised.
 
Buster15 said:
I would dearly love someone to explain to me in simple terms, in what possible scenario could Brexit be even remotely a success.
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You can tell foreigners to “piss off back to where you came from” and nobody will bat an eyelid.
 
With this cnut gone, I'd guess we're going to ask for an extension to the negotiating deadline, due to Covid.

Boris, without this cnut with him, will no way allow a no-deal break now
 
FireballXL5 said:
To quote Karen Carpenter 'We've only just begun....'

Felixstowe Port in 'chaos' as Christmas and Brexit loom

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54908129
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It's been like that since September, at our workplace we've got containers sitting there waiting to come in from 3 weeks ago. The delays are more down to staff testing positive and others isolating, plus they put some of their more experienced employees on furlough. Brexit will only exacerbate this situation.
 
Buster15 said:
But in reality, were we ever?
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No it never was. All EU countries were independent and free to make their decisions. All had to agree for any agreement to take place. What it was a huge and powerful union that can get almost all of Europe on one agreement. The only one big enough to stand up to the USA. The only one the US was hesitant to take on. UK was crazy enough to leave that huge and powerful block. By listening to people like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson they have destroyed the future and also more importantly any influence the UK had on the world. Yes they are a member of the UN Security Council but their influence now is less than that of India who has a lot more influence in Asia. Even South Africa has more influence in Africa.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Anyone with a brain larger than a pea knows that Brexit will be an unmitigated disaster. There is no path where it could lead it to being a success, at least not for the man/woman in the street.
The rats will disappear as soon as they can.
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I always thought it was one of the stupidest ideas I'd ever heard but it is looking far far worse than I imagined.
 
Wibble said:
I always thought it was one of the stupidest ideas I'd ever heard but it is looking far far worse than I imagined.
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I just tuned into Sky News briefly and a Brexit MP called Bridgen was saying the EU will back down because 70% of their business is with the UK. No challenge from the presenter, Adam Boulton . How do these people get away with saying so much rubbish, the UK media is useless and uninformed, and the people are stupid enough to believe this crap.

At this stage most people, not only Brexiteers, have absolutely zero idea what they've let themselves in for.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
I just tuned into Sky News briefly and a Brexit MP called Bridgen was saying the EU will back down because 70% of their business is with the UK. No challenge from the presenter, Adam Boulton . How do these people get away with saying so much rubbish, the UK media is useless and uninformed, and the people are stupid enough to believe this crap.

At this stage most people, not only Brexiteers, have absolutely zero idea what they've let themselves in for.
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I have heard Bridgen make this same statement many weeks ago. And it was utter bullsh1t then and he was not challenged either.
I am afraid that he is a deeply staunch Brexiteer and even delights in the concept of a no deal.
He is either a halfwit or has been completely brainwashed, or in his case both.
Just ignore the stupid twat.
But at least you can see the type of dim assed politicians running the UK.
 
Buster15 said:
I have heard Bridgen make this same statement many weeks ago. And it was utter bullsh1t then and he was not challenged either.
I am afraid that he is a deeply staunch Brexiteer and even delights in the concept of a no deal.
He is either a halfwit or has been completely brainwashed, or in his case both.
Just ignore the stupid twat.
But at least you can see the type of dim assed politicians running the UK.
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He's doing the rounds spouting this nonsense today too, just being given a platform to misinform, unchallenged as you said.

EU 'scared' of post-Brexit success as desperate bloc fears 'UK economy out-competing them'

Mr Bridgen explained the UK is the EU's biggest trading partner as it takes 70 percent of its exports. He claimed that the bloc is "scared" of the prospects of the UK economy outdoing them in the future. Speaking to Sky News, Mr Bridgden said: "We're the EU's biggest trading partner, 70 percent of all their exports come to us.
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...xit-trade-deal-latest-talks-andrew-bridgen-VN
 
Buster15 said:
I have heard Bridgen make this same statement many weeks ago. And it was utter bullsh1t then and he was not challenged either.
I am afraid that he is a deeply staunch Brexiteer and even delights in the concept of a no deal.
He is either a halfwit or has been completely brainwashed, or in his case both.
Just ignore the stupid twat.
But at least you can see the type of dim assed politicians running the UK.
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Jippy said:
He's doing the rounds spouting this nonsense today too, just being given a platform to misinform, unchallenged as you said.

EU 'scared' of post-Brexit success as desperate bloc fears 'UK economy out-competing them'



https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...xit-trade-deal-latest-talks-andrew-bridgen-VN
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But how does he get away with this, you'd have to be the dimmest moron on Earth to even give the slightest credence to this claim.

Just in case there are one or two on here - the most affected country in the EU is Ireland and less than 11% of their business is with the UK. France and Germany are two of the next biggest and theirs are both less than 7%.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
I just tuned into Sky News briefly and a Brexit MP called Bridgen was saying the EU will back down because 70% of their business is with the UK. No challenge from the presenter, Adam Boulton . How do these people get away with saying so much rubbish, the UK media is useless and uninformed, and the people are stupid enough to believe this crap.

At this stage most people, not only Brexiteers, have absolutely zero idea what they've let themselves in for.
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our UK media have done more calling out Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claims about the election, then they do calling out UK politicians lies
 
Paul the Wolf said:
But how does he get away with this, you'd have to be the dimmest moron on Earth to even give the slightest credence to this claim.

Just in case there are one or two on here - the most affected country in the EU is Ireland and less than 11% of their business is with the UK. France and Germany are two of the next biggest and theirs are both less than 7%.
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You see Paul, Brexiteers are really not interested in facts. Nothing about voting to leave the EU had anything to do with facts. Because there weren't any.
It had everything to do with an illusion. Taking back control blah blah blah. It plays to their biggotted stupidity.
The world owes us just because we are British....

As you have said, they/we all are going to have to learn the hard way.
 
Buster15 said:
You see Paul, Brexiteers are really not interested in facts. Nothing about voting to leave the EU had anything to do with facts. Because there weren't any.
It had everything to do with an illusion. Taking back control blah blah blah. It plays to their biggotted stupidity.
The world owes us just because we are British....

As you have said, they/we all are going to have to learn the hard way.
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I wouldn't actually be surprised that he's added the percentage of each of the 27 EU countries together and come to the total of 70. Trouble is I think I'm actually overestiimating the intelligence of Brexiteers and that simple mathematics is far too complicated for them.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
But how does he get away with this, you'd have to be the dimmest moron on Earth to even give the slightest credence to this claim.

Just in case there are one or two on here - the most affected country in the EU is Ireland and less than 11% of their business is with the UK. France and Germany are two of the next biggest and theirs are both less than 7%.
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Did he really mean to say 70%? I mean, it just makes no sense. Imagine getting 70% of all imports of a zone that's about 10 times as large as yours... You'd have to assume that zone actually exports very little, otherwise you must be getting absolutely inundated with their stuff.
 
Cheimoon said:
Did he really mean to say 70%? I mean, it just makes no sense. Imagine getting 70% of all imports of a zone that's about 10 times as large as yours... You'd have to assume that zone actually exports very little, otherwise you must be getting absolutely inundated with their stuff.
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Yes he's said it several times over a period of time. The last 4 and a half years have been a swamp of thousands of lies. Lots have been more ridiculous than this. It's the only way Brexit could have happened. They knew people wouldn't be bothered to check so they soon realised that they could say anything, a large portion of the electorate are so gullible they'd believe anything if it fits their agenda. Now reality is only just over six weeks away.
 
Cheimoon said:
Did he really mean to say 70%? I mean, it just makes no sense. Imagine getting 70% of all imports of a zone that's about 10 times as large as yours... You'd have to assume that zone actually exports very little, otherwise you must be getting absolutely inundated with their stuff.
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He's repeated the claim in multiple interviews and it's being written up or broadcast unchallenged by numerous media outlets.
The numbers would be crazy. Every family in the UK must have a BMW, an Audi and a Peugot on their drives and eat their own bodyweight in Reblochon and Gouda eight times over a year for it to be even half true.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Yes he's said it several times over a period of time. The last 4 and a half years have been a swamp of thousands of lies. Lots have been more ridiculous than this. It's the only way Brexit could have happened. They knew people wouldn't be bothered to check so they soon realised that they could say anything, a large portion of the electorate are so gullible they'd believe anything if it fits their agenda. Now reality is only just over six weeks away.
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Jippy said:
He's repeated the claim in multiple interviews and it's being written up or broadcast unchallenged by numerous media outlets.
The numbers would be crazy. Every family in the UK must have a BMW, an Audi and a Peugot on their drives and eat their own bodyweight in Reblochon and Gouda eight times over a year for it to be even half true.
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Urgh, Insane. I wonder if they believe it themselves. In the US, Trump and some of his cronies seem stupid enough to actually believe their own nonsense, but my impression is that it's a bit more insidious with the Brexit Tories in the UK.
 
Cheimoon said:
Urgh, Insane. I wonder if they believe it themselves. In the US, Trump and some of his cronies seem stupid enough to actually believe their own nonsense, but my impression is that it's a bit more insidious with the Brexit Tories in the UK.
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With Trump, at least they could get rid of him after 4 years. Even with the Tories there have been opportunities to get rid of them but the opposition have been totally pathetic over the last five years, the worst in my lifetime (which is a long time). But now even if they got rid of the Tories, Brexit is with them for decades to come. As you say, completely insane.
 
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