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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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How does this deal affect those who holiday abroad for long periods? Ie not those with permanent residence, but have bought property abroad to spend summers in?
Stays of longer than 90 cumulative days in any 180 period likely to need visa or residency.
 
How does this deal affect those who holiday abroad for long periods? Ie not those with permanent residence, but have bought property abroad to spend summers in?

Depends how long you spend out there. Seems you can spend 90 days in a 180 day period in the EU still. So as long as its less than 3 months, you seemingly should be fine.

Longer than that, you'll probably have to cut it short/ come back to the UK for a bit and reset the clock.
 
Trade deals can take years - Paul de Wolf

But not this one.

Negotiating a much worse deal is easy. I'm waiting for the first deal the UK does on their own that isn't a photocopy of an EU deal. After all this was one of the major points of Brexit. India, China, USA ? Not holding one's breath.
 
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I would expect when Trump has gone and Biden installed, the USD will strengthen, the Euro has been very strong against the USD as well so I think it's more USD weakness at the moment.
I don't fancy reading 2000 pages but seems not much more than a FTA with no tariffs as long as the UK and EU remain close in their objectives.

Question is where are all the Brexiters crying out for WTO rules ?
Yep dollar has been falling for quite a few months now.
A week to implement a 2,000 page document over Christmas will be a big ask of business.
 
Me neither. It was at 1.36EUR on 1st Jan 2016. The impending referendum and later the result drove it down.

I think you will find that the fall was more influenced by both the IMF and the Bank of England announcing in Mid 2015 that sterling was ’moderately’ overvalued.
 
I always thought there would be a deal but, looking back, the talk of a no deal Plan B was really aimed at the British electorate rather than the EU. Presented with the threat of chaos, the deal will now be viewed through a prism of relief by a large chunk of the public rather than be measured against the fantasies promised in 2016 by leading Brexiteers (including Johnson). For all he is a malevolent clown, Boris knows how to work his audience.
 
It's a deal But not as great as Boris and the fanfare from the usual tabloids are making it out to be. When all this settles down it will become clear.
 
I think you will find that the fall was more influenced by both the IMF and the Bank of England announcing in Mid 2015 that sterling was ’moderately’ overvalued.
Interesting, cheers. Will have a look into it. Probably not after a few mulled ciders though.! :)
 
Good that's sorted. I've no doubt that this will work out well for the UK after the next few years, and any deal which keeps trade going without taxes is a good thing.

Didn't want it but it'll be fine.
 
Negotiating a much worse deal is easy. I'm waiting for the first deal the UK does on their own that isn't a photocopy of an EU deal. After all this was one of the major points of Brexit. India, China, USA ? Not holding one's breath.

Admit victory - Admit defeat

Dont move goal posts, they dont always take years.

Houses can also be bought and sold in a day despite the legal bullshit in the background.
 
Trivial question but does anyone know if we can still use our phone data in Europe? Google maps has been a god send to me when i travel.
Apparently most major networks aren't bringing back roaming charges. Hope it stays that way.

UK carriers have stated "they have no plans" to bring back roaming charges. Unfortunately from 1st Jan EU carriers get given back the choice to charge Brits for using their services... I think we all know how that is going to go and that plans might change.
 
Of course it was - is that why it gained 10 cents between October and December 2015. Dear me.

I can't really understand your point on currencies if I am honest. If what you are saying is that the rate of exchange proves some point about being in or out of EU/EEC then do you have a graph of the relative strength of Sterling versus the Dmark/ Euro since we joined in the 70's? If this is your gold standard then lets at least measure the entire enterprise for fairness. I am not a lawyer so I am not asking because I know the answer, its a genuine question.
 
So what’s happening with the Irish border?

As others said, customs border is between NI & GB mainland, Irish border remains seamless. I've had to look into it as I work for a company that ships product from GB to NI/ROI and from our site in NI to ROI. Will splurge my findings in case it is of any interest to anyone...

We're stopping selling direct from GB to ROI, too much hassle, everything will go via NI with taxes paid on goods as it goes over Irish sea. Expect demand for warehouse space in NI to rise in the near future!! There's new admin work to do, for us and the shipping company we use, to move goods from ourselves to ourselves within the UK (NI). Even if EU tariffs are now zero after the 'deal', VAT will need to be paid/reclaimed and we've had to develop our IT system to produce the proper paperwork for the customs declaration and so we can now invoice ourselves for selling to our own fecking branch within the UK (NI).

As stated the Irish border remains pretty much unchanged. UK companies shipping from NI have just had to register for a different Vat/EORI number for use when shipping to the south so companies there can evidence why they are not paying Irish vat on the import. So a bit more IT work needed to put that info on goods specifically going over that border.

Interestingly, the Irish Sea border is basically a 1-way border. The ball-ache is only on goods being moved from GB->NI but there will be no checks/declarations on goods moving from NI->GB. I'm wondering if this is going to change the economy of NI somewhat...
 
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If it was the deal both sides wanted to achieve it wouldn't have taken until it was too late to ratify in time in order to achieve it, or involved nasty tactics like stacking lorries on the border to make a point. Both sides wanted some kind of deal but I doubt both got what they wanted.

I'm actually surprised as I thought Boris would completely feck it up so will wait until we find out a bit more
 
If it was the deal both sides wanted to achieve it wouldn't have taken until it was too late to ratify in time in order to achieve it, or involved nasty tactics like stacking lorries on the border to make a point. Both sides wanted some kind of deal but I doubt both got what they wanted.

I'm actually surprised as I thought Boris would completely feck it up so will wait until we find out a bit more
If this is real then it's no deal disguised as deal, genuinely wouldn't put it past Boris to do that.