Whos talking about trophies? To say he couldn't handle the job though is ridiculous.
Spurs were not and still are not a trophy winning club.
Plenty of managers have been sacked from jobs. Only a few havent
Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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Whos talking about trophies? To say he couldn't handle the job though is ridiculous.
Spurs were not and still are not a trophy winning club.
Plenty of managers have been sacked from jobs. Only a few havent
So much love for our manager here.. People sickened cause Poch is going to PSG so their dream about Ole getting sacked won't be fulfilled.
We could win the PL and they would still complain about Ole.
Hate that club and everything about them, but wish Poch all the best. Not sure if he has what it takes to win a CL with them, which is what he’ll need to do
No.
If the only option was Potter why would you sack who you have?
Wait, you're criticising Pochettino for losing a CL final against one the world's strongest teams - especially when that loss included a ridiculous VAR handball pen awarded literally seconds into the match - when Ole has just been dumped out in CL group stage? I've heard it all now.
Fans live in the moment though. When Poch arrived Spurs made top 4 the odd season and he turned them into regulars even finishing ahead of us most seasons. So then fans started saying well he doesn’t win trophies.
When the reality is Spurs never won trophies and rarely ever got top 4, He did well on the budget and got them to a CL final.
Also his sacking was inevitable they made a CL final that is the furthest the Squad was capable and the squad needed a lot of players in with some out but he never got that 200-300 million to challenge Liverpool/City.
Would we? I dunno, looking at his track record with spurs (with a squad that had a similar age and attribute profile), I'd say if anything Ole did better comparatively speaking up to now and hasn't needed the first Poch season of stability which ended with them in 5th.
Happy for Poch if he gets the gig at PSG. If you listen to the CAMQ*, he's not qualified for the job, needed to win a Carabao Cup to seal the deal.
*Caf Academy of Managerial Qualifications
*Caf Academy of Managerial Qualifications
Spicy appointment!!
Can see him either not be able to manage the egos there and failing
or
finally making PSG kick ass
Can see him either not be able to manage the egos there and failing
or
finally making PSG kick ass
You make it sound like we were comfortable top 4 and not 1 game away from finishing 5th ourselves.
As soon as he goes and manages to get the most expensive team ever assembled to thrash some French farmers 7-0, there will be plenty on here using it as evidence of his amazing technical nous.
This is true but equally true is that we got 3rd. Irrespective of the manner, Ole reached that target. If he got fifth like Poch did, he'd have likely been out of a job.
Now don't get me wrong, Poch did an amazing job at spurs (up until that 2018/19 season, ironically the season he reached the CL final, which is where my doubts really arose over him) but Ole reached that target with a squad that was far from a sure thing.
This makes things a bit more interesting for our club. Should Ole need replacing at some point, Poch seemed like the ready made option. Now that he's off the table, and likely will be for a while since PSG don't exactly hire and fire managers quickly, it'll be interesting to see who the club go for as our next manager in a year or two or whenever. This might force them to think outside of the box for the next appointment, which I think could be a good thing.
Dumped out in a simliar fashion to Spurs under Poch in 2016/17 when Monaco and Leverkusen progressed to the knock out stages. Actually it was worse as the only win Spurs got in that group was against CSKA.
I recall at the time that plenty of pundits reckoned Spurs was well placed to get over that disappointment and challenge for the Europa league. The end result was a round of 32 exit to the might of Gent.
Let's be fair, he wouldnt get a job at any other club in the PL. Maybe after this season that will change but as of now, no-one outside of some United fans think he's up to it. Poch is going to be hired by PSG and was linked with Real. Do you seriously think clubs like them would want OGS?
Yes. Poch should have won a trophy and if he hasn't, it's because he's not good enough unlike when OGS suffers setbacks which is always because of the owners and/or Woodward.
Actually, if you read the what he wrote, he's criticising Poch for dropping a player in fine form (who was also the main reason he was in that final) for a player just back from injury. He also doesn't mention Ole.
Not that I expect anything other than whataboutery and jabs at United from you.
You're so unbelievably bitter about Ole being our manager that it's actually sad.
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I could see him win the Champions League with PSG.
He needs to be backed in January though. A creative midfielder is a must.
Pogba or Eriksen could both be interesting signings.
He needs to be backed in January though. A creative midfielder is a must.
Pogba or Eriksen could both be interesting signings.
You only got to the semi final because VAR didn't give an obvious handball by Llorente. This was after scraping through a group with just 8 points mainly thanks to Barcelona playing their reserves in the final game. The whole run was a fluke.
Pochettino’s lack of a trophy, any trophy to date in his career does hang as a big question mark over his head, though granted he’s still reasonably young in managerial terms at 48.
I expect he’ll win a reasonable amount of domestic silverware at PSG as every manager there does but I’m not so sure he’s as good a bet to win them that CL as someone like max allegri would’ve been.
I expect he’ll win a reasonable amount of domestic silverware at PSG as every manager there does but I’m not so sure he’s as good a bet to win them that CL as someone like max allegri would’ve been.
This obsession with Pochettino not winning trophies amazes me. What if he won League cup for example, would he be a better coach than he is now? He managed Espanyol, Southampton and Spurs and none of them are trophy hunters. He managed to change Spurs, a constant underachiever into a proper football club and he did this in a time that club was short on funds because they invested in a new stadium.
Poch is a fantastic manager. I would say he is probably a top 5.
Poch is a fantastic manager. I would say he is probably a top 5.
I don’t really care about Real, they tend to go for a certain type anyway.
PSG why not? He’s outsmarted them twice in Europe. Tuchel got a job so why not?
he’s proving himself in PL now
Pochettino's fanbois are among the most annoying set of people on the caf. He's not coming to Utd and that's that.
Just a little less annoying by those obsessed about his lack of trophies though
Just a little less annoying by those obsessed about his lack of trophies though
I agree he gets far too much praise for getting to that final.
Every teams run to a final is different, some harder than others, theirs wasn’t particularly impressive to be honest.
Also it’s a cup competition, why is getting to a final only to lose any sort of proof of his quality? Not saying he’s a poor manager because he’s not, but this CL final point is silly tbh.
I think the area to praise Poch is his consistent league form and how he turned Spurs into an ever-present top four team. You can look at the fact that previous top four teams like us and Arsenal have been going through hugely difficult transition periods, which opened the door for them, but it was still an impressive achievement by him.
Cup runs are great (more so if you actually win at the end), but we've seen how flukey and lucky they can be, its not always the most brilliantly perfect teams who reach finals or win the trophy in my view.
Cup runs are great (more so if you actually win at the end), but we've seen how flukey and lucky they can be, its not always the most brilliantly perfect teams who reach finals or win the trophy in my view.
I think most Spurs fans called that he wanted PSG, and no this is no dig at the United faithful, I also said you should stick with Ole.
I'm so happy about this.
Just wanted to write the exact same. He even used the fancy bold function to emphasize his nonsense.
What is really interesting is to know why they sacked Tuchel and why they chose Pochettino.
As this thread is about Mauricio, the key aspects are the following:
- He played for PSG so it makes his beginning smooth
- His CV is interesting: reached the champions league final, coached in Spain/England
- He is Argentinian so he will have to reboost Di Maria, save Icardi and attract Messi
- There is a lot of players who speak Spanish
- He can get on well with Leonardo, the sporting director.
Under Tuchel 20/21, the situation is not under control.
As this thread is about Mauricio, the key aspects are the following:
- He played for PSG so it makes his beginning smooth
- His CV is interesting: reached the champions league final, coached in Spain/England
- He is Argentinian so he will have to reboost Di Maria, save Icardi and attract Messi
- There is a lot of players who speak Spanish
- He can get on well with Leonardo, the sporting director.
Under Tuchel 20/21, the situation is not under control.
PSG should have replaced Tuchel with Poch right after lost CL final.
To be fair if they sign Messi, we know he'll be in charge.
Why?
Definitely, being proven right is much more important. They’re like that ’friend‘ who wishes others to be unsuccessful if they ignored his advice.
Poch at Spurs was great, the lack of trophies thing is whatever. Most of the time Spurs would roll out academy players and players coming back from injury in the cup games. Never really treated the cups with any kind of seriousness, his goal was always top 4, Im not sure if this had come down from the Spurs board and Levy because Levy wanted the extra revenue that CL brings in. Or that was just Poch's focus from the get go.
Interested to see how he gets on at PSG.
Interested to see how he gets on at PSG.
no one takes what you say with any seriousness.
that’s fair enough. I really don’t understand the obsession with some United fans and Poch.
Quite frankly it could be anyone, it’s just he’s been out of a job whilst some fans have been unhappy with OGS.
I think he’s a decent manger, who clearly has some things to prove - but that’s not a negative.
However, we should be getting behind OGS. We are making good progress.
would be good for him to get a perm job, if only just so that those United fans obsessed with him can move onto someone else.
I find this sort of take very dishonest.
Let's not pretend that MUFC fans who have a gripe with Ole are doing it for no good reason or that it's just spiteful. Results under Ole aren't great, and over the course of the last 2 years he hasn't done better than previous managers.
The Ole-out part of this forum are rational, and have taken their stance for good reason. A few weeks ago I think most would say Ole does deserve to be sacked, and today he's strung together a couple of good games back-to-back so that sentiment has changed.
I think you should stop being a joke poster, otherwise, like what you said, no one is going to take what you say seriously. I certainly don't, already.
The obsession around Klopp not winning trophies was very similar (despite the fact that he did win trophies at Dortmund).
It's just an easy stick used to beat managers with.
Poch will win trophies soon enough and then people who dislike him will use another argument to beat him with.
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