SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Just found out that a close family friend is fighting for his life. Tested positive. Felt relatively fine. Then 5 days later is in hospital and the doctors put him in a medically induced coma. They don't know if he's going to make it. He's 45, doesn't smoke or drink. Cycles every day. Has an 8 year old daughter at home who doesn't understand why her father isn't with her for Christmas.

Stay safe people.
 
Just found out that a close family friend is fighting for his life. Tested positive. Felt relatively fine. Then 5 days later is in hospital and the doctors put him in a medically induced coma. They don't know if he's going to make it. He's 45, doesn't smoke or drink. Cycles every day. Has an 8 year old daughter at home who doesn't understand why her father isn't with her for Christmas.

Stay safe people.

:( Awful and scary post. My best wishes for him and his family.
 
I am indeed. The situation is pretty shite at the moment. Not quite back at 1st wave levels in my hospital yet but we're getting there again. More and more wards are being turned into full covid wards now, we're having problems where patients come in with other problems asymptomatic from a respiratory point of view and ending up having covid, whilst they've been happily sitting there in an open bay with 3-4 other patients for 2-3 days.

Whole teams going down sick with covid at the same time, ITU almost full again despite the surge capacity kicking in. Having to try to divert patients sometimes. Hospital is full. A&E docs having to review patients in ambulances sometimes. Patients telling us they're waiting for hours on end for ambulances for chest pain or stroke like presentations. Horrible bed block. We're having to start thinking about redeploying some doctors (especially the more junior doctors in specialties like O&G, surgery, GP training) into the medical wards and intensive care. Some hospitals in London have already cancelled all elective stuff again.

There's also been a bit of a shift as well in public attitue I think, which has hit some workers. Its not quite aggression as such but definitely a lot more snide comments, snapping etc from patients and relatives than last time. I don't blame them at all but its draining on top of everything else.

I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I'm struggling to see how these aren't going to be amongst the grimmest few months of my career so far.

:( good luck. I hope whatever measures are brought in make things slightly more manageable for you and your colleagues.
 
Sad but so true.

Heard 2 stories from people who know my family and they put down to covid for people who died for other reasons (tuberculosis, and chronic respiratory insuffiency). In one of these stories, one hired a lawyer and made the necessary for the deceased person to pass a covid test - negative

Excess death still remains the best indicator by default to demonstrate the real impact of covid on life expectancy imo
Sad but so true.

Heard 2 stories from people who know my family and they put down to covid for people who died for other reasons (tuberculosis, and chronic respiratory insuffiency). In one of these stories, one hired a lawyer and made the necessary for the deceased person to pass a covid test - negative

Excess death still remains the best indicator by default to demonstrate the real impact of covid on life expectancy imo

Excess deaths are globally up far more than the 1.75 million officially listed as due to covid so stop with this nonsense. Not that deaths alone are the issue. Read the posts by @africanspur and @Holocene and then stop distracting with this nonsense.
 
I am indeed. The situation is pretty shite at the moment. Not quite back at 1st wave levels in my hospital yet but we're getting there again. More and more wards are being turned into full covid wards now, we're having problems where patients come in with other problems asymptomatic from a respiratory point of view and ending up having covid, whilst they've been happily sitting there in an open bay with 3-4 other patients for 2-3 days.

Whole teams going down sick with covid at the same time, ITU almost full again despite the surge capacity kicking in. Having to try to divert patients sometimes. Hospital is full. A&E docs having to review patients in ambulances sometimes. Patients telling us they're waiting for hours on end for ambulances for chest pain or stroke like presentations. Horrible bed block. We're having to start thinking about redeploying some doctors (especially the more junior doctors in specialties like O&G, surgery, GP training) into the medical wards and intensive care. Some hospitals in London have already cancelled all elective stuff again.

There's also been a bit of a shift as well in public attitue I think, which has hit some workers. Its not quite aggression as such but definitely a lot more snide comments, snapping etc from patients and relatives than last time. I don't blame them at all but its draining on top of everything else.

I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I'm struggling to see how these aren't going to be amongst the grimmest few months of my career so far.
Fair play, I cant imagine what its like. Stay safe and thank you.
Just found out that a close family friend is fighting for his life. Tested positive. Felt relatively fine. Then 5 days later is in hospital and the doctors put him in a medically induced coma. They don't know if he's going to make it. He's 45, doesn't smoke or drink. Cycles every day. Has an 8 year old daughter at home who doesn't understand why her father isn't with her for Christmas.

Stay safe people.
Thats awful :( hope he gets better!
 
Excess deaths are globally up far more than the 1.75 million officially listed as due to covid so stop with this nonsense. Not that deaths alone are the issue. Read the posts by @africanspur and @Holocene and then stop distracting with this nonsense.

If you are unhapppy with my posts, then you should delete my account: I have no problem with that.

I don't see the point in having a one-track thinking in a forum.
 
If you are unhapppy with my posts, then you should delete my account: I have no problem with that.

I don't see the point in having a one-track thinking in a forum.
There is a significant difference between having a one track forum and posting complete and utter nonsense.
 
If you are unhapppy with my posts, then you should delete my account: I have no problem with that.

I don't see the point in having a one-track thinking in a forum.

Don't pretend that you are being threatened with being banned for promoting rubbish and being unable to defend or justify your opinions?
 
If you are unhapppy with my posts, then you should delete my account: I have no problem with that.

I don't see the point in having a one-track thinking in a forum.

It’s not a thought if it’s been burped out of your arse. You’re talking nonsense. Yours isn’t the ‘Balance’. It’s ill informed and constantly debunked nonsense.
 
Don't pretend that you are being threatened with being banned for promoting rubbish and being unable to defend or justify your opinions?

I write what I want.

If you are unhappy, just ban me.
 
It’s not a thought if it’s been burped out of your arse. You’re talking nonsense. Yours isn’t the ‘Balance’. It’s ill informed and constantly debunked nonsense.

Did I write I was "the Balance"? Your way of thinking is unhealthy to say the least
 
I write what I want.

If you are unhappy, just ban me.

I think you misunderstand. You are posting dangerous and unsupportable nonsense. I will continue to call your idiocy out.

Don't try to distract from your inability to support your assertions by playing the victim.
 
Current test return/backlog is around 2.9 days based on the latest data released yesterday.

1,698 were from tests taken y'day (5%)
15,475 Tuesday (44%)
12,203 Monday (34%)
3,991 Sunday (11%)
1,553 Saturday (4%)
511 Friday (1%)
114 last Thurs
Negative at 6am this morning
 
Did I write I was "the Balance"? Your way of thinking is unhealthy to say the least

Well if you think your thought process is the one that challenges a ‘One track forum’ then yes, that would represent a balancing point.

The problem is that you have no idea what you’re talking about. You can’t justify your position. You use an anecdotal point to challenge facts. You get called out on it. And instead of realising that you’re wrong, or attempting to show evidence of everyone else being wrong, you ask to be banned under the guise of censorship.

You’re either trolling, or worse.
 
I think you misunderstand. You are posting dangerous and unsupportable nonsense. I will continue to call your idiocy out.

Don't try to distract from your inability to support your assertions by playing the victim.

I don't play the victim. You say I am dangerous.

You belong to the staff. Why don't you save the forum and delete my account?
 
I don't play the victim. You say I am dangerous.

You belong to the staff. Why don't you save the forum and delete my account?

You are playing the victim by falsely pretending that you are under threat of banning for your unsupportable opinions.

Your opinions are dangerous because they are incorrect and such views undermine the seriousness of the pandemic.

And I don't delete posters I disagree with because a) I am ethical and wouldn't abuse my position in this way and, b) I'd rather engage in debate and show that you can't support your views with actual evidence.
 
You are playing the victim by falsely pretending that you are under threat of banning for your unsupportable opinions.
Your opinions are dangerous because they are incorrect and such views undermine the seriousness of the pandemic.

I am not playing the victim.

I am just suggesting what should have been perceived by a moderator as a good idea.

Banning a poster who talks nonsense and whose opinions are dangerous makes perfectly sense.

And I don't delete posters I disagree with because a) I am ethical and wouldn't abuse my position in this way and, b) I'd rather engage in debate and show that you can't support your views with actual evidence.

Any internet forum is moderated. Staff should be free to do what they want.
 
I am not playing the victim.

I am just suggesting what should have been perceived by a moderator as a good idea.

Banning a poster who talks nonsense and whose opinions are dangerous makes perfectly sense.



Any internet forum is moderated. Staff should be free to do what they want.

Blah blah blah. Are you unable to provide evidence or support your assertions?
 
If the caf started banning people for embarrassing themselves with clueless opinions then the football forum would be fecked.

Pretty funny that the only person even remotely interested in banning @Ecstatic is @Ecstatic himself though. He best hope he's never made a mod as he will inevitably drive himself off the forum with his endless persecution and censorship.
 
If the caf started banning people for embarrassing themselves with clueless opinions then the football forum would be fecked.

Pretty funny that the only person even remotely interested in banning @Ecstatic is @Ecstatic himself though. He best hope he's never made a mod as he will inevitably drive himself off the forum with his endless persecution and censorship.
Ha!!
 
If you are unhapppy with my posts, then you should delete my account: I have no problem with that.

I don't see the point in having a one-track thinking in a forum.
There's a difference between opinions and fact. You are passing off your misinformation as fact. Excess deaths literally debunk any accusations of over counting covid 19 deaths. If anything, we are under counting it. Yet, on the basis of hearsay, your post implies that any deaths under the sun are being counted as Covid related, when that is demonstrably nonsense.

The US, for example, as at Aug had roughly 269000 excess deaths, while official covid statistics was around 169 - 170K ++ deaths.
 
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There's a difference between opinions and fact. You are passing off your misinformation as fact. Excess deaths literally debunk any accusations of over counting covid 19 deaths. If anything, we are under counting it. Yet, on the basis of hearsay, your post implies that any deaths under the sun are being counted as Covid related, when that is demonstrably nonsense.

The US, for example, as at Aug had roughly 269000 excess deaths, while official covid statistics was around 169 - 170K ++ deaths.

I've also heard nonsense about excess death figure being fiddled. Presumably by "the deep state" to "make us live in fear" or some such nonsense.

In which case why did excess deaths in Australia not occur? In fact in mid-winter anti-covid measures were saving 400 lives a month. Almost as if the actual figures were being reported? ;)
 
Are you on the frontline? What the situation been like recently (say last few weeks). Has it got dramatically worse?
The hospital system my wife works for is the largest in the state. It is now in a gridlock because there are no more beds. They’re running out of things like IV bags, IV tubes, IV poles. Half the night shift ICU nurses are currently out with Covid. They’ve got massive overflow of patients in the Emergency Room hallways in multiple hospitals because the wings they’re supposed to be admitted to are completely full. This is across a hospital system covering about 650,000 people.
 
I’m really tired of the whole “they’re calling every death Covid” narrative. Bullshit. Really. Bullshit. Nobody is putting their medical or nursing license on the chopping block to fudge the damned numbers for “the man”.
 
The hospital system my wife works for is the largest in the state. It is now in a gridlock because there are no more beds. They’re running out of things like IV bags, IV tubes, IV poles. Half the night shift ICU nurses are currently out with Covid. They’ve got massive overflow of patients in the Emergency Room hallways in multiple hospitals because the wings they’re supposed to be admitted to are completely full. This is across a hospital system covering about 650,000 people.
That sounds grim to be honest, but this is the sort of info that people need to hear to stop the narrative of let it run free , which would end up with both flu and COVID surges on hospital’s.
 
I’m really tired of the whole “they’re calling every death Covid” narrative. Bullshit. Really. Bullshit. Nobody is putting their medical or nursing license on the chopping block to fudge the damned numbers for “the man”.
Was visiting my parents in France for christmas and people in the village they live in say similar stuff. They say the hospitals put down covid as cause of death to get more funding. Personally I think it's some kind of coping mechanism. People do, think, and say weird things in terrible times.
 
That sounds grim to be honest, but this is the sort of info that people need to hear to stop the narrative of let it run free , which would end up with both flu and COVID surges on hospital’s.
That’s already happening. They had their first confirmed flu death a couple weeks ago.

Hell, my wife is still getting patients who are saying things like “I can’t believe this... I didn’t think it was real... I didn’t do the safety measures...etc.” They won’t believe it until it’s them in the hospital bed about to be put on a vent.