Not in the context of elongating supply, which is why I mentioned it.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Not in the context of elongating supply, which is why I mentioned it.
My father in law has received a date/confirmation that he will receive his second injection soon. He’s 82
I believe so, I had the same Christmas week but it was for only three days.
Strange post from you.
For the reasons clearly outlined in my post. Politics and government decisions have had a massive impact on how each country has dealt with the virus.
Every single action we can take to reduce spread of the virus is made at a political level. Maybe you need to look at how the UK is doing in comparison with other European countries...
Not sure what point you're making. Are you suggesting that right-leaning governments are less likely to put restrictions in than left-of-centre governments? Genuine question.
Sweden is doing absolutely terrible with the left-leaning government still refusing to put in any meaningful restrictions with health services already overwhelmed. After nine months, they're finally recommending masks for commuters during peak hours as of Thursday.
That's because of Tegnell not the government.
The death and infection rate has everything to do with policy. A virus mutating has nothing to do with policy. Your post was inferring that the mutation is down to politics, which it isn't.
Have you seen any clarification on the "work form home unless you can't work from home"?
I work in an accountants with the tax deadline at the end of the month and there's no chance we are allowed to work from home or we won't get all the work done.
Does that qualify as can't work from home?
Sorry no idea, just a snippet I heard earlier
I’m interested to hear opinions on this.
I work for a manufacturing company in the offices. It’s impossible for the factory workers to WFH but easy for the office staff, we’ve done it for months on end or week on/week off over the past year so there’s no question on viability. The CEO announced today that all staff were expected to be on site because it was a ‘safe site’, we’ve put some hand sanitizer stations around and spaced the desks out basically. People also get temp checked on arrival.
I’m a bit startled by the insistence to work on site. It’s strange because I actually prefer going into the office to work but I can’t help thinking if there’s an outbreak in the offices and people get seriously ill that the company’s on some tricky legal footing for forcing people in.
I work for a manufacturing company in the offices. It’s impossible for the factory workers to WFH but easy for the office staff, we’ve done it for months on end or week on/week off over the past year so there’s no question on viability. The CEO announced today that all staff were expected to be on site because it was a ‘safe site’, we’ve put some hand sanitizer stations around and spaced the desks out basically. People also get temp checked on arrival.
I’m a bit startled by the insistence to work on site. It’s strange because I actually prefer going into the office to work but I can’t help thinking if there’s an outbreak in the offices and people get seriously ill that the company’s on some tricky legal footing for forcing people in.
If nothing else, it’s unbelievably strange timing to announce a move back into the office having functioned ok working from home. What is he/she thinking?!?
The government's been very happy to let Tegnell take the lead though instead of taking responsibility themselves.
It’s bizarre. We’ve been on a week in/week out basis (though I’ve been in most of the time) for a while. I get that whilst the official threat level is low-ish. But that changes when the order is to stay at home. Seems crazy timing....the only thing I can think of is that it causes less discontent in the factory if the offices are dragged in as well
Odd considering the message is very clear to work from home if you can. What has your line manager said (if you don't report into the CEO)?
Does anyone believe covid has ruined a whole generation? I think we, who lived through the outbreak, will be affected until the end of our lives. Be it mentally, physically or economically. I think our lives ended in 2019, the way we once liked them. Previously id laugh it off, but I now do truly believe that covid has changed the world forever.
This is the kind of thing that is making the virus worse. We can only blame Boris so much, but its this mentality that really set us back recently.
Ruined? No. Long-term negative effects? Yes, and disproportionately impacting the poor.
My line manager, who’s pretty senior himself and normally tows the party line, is equally as bemused.
I disagree.
My optimism comes from the vaccins. It may take a while to get rid of Covid and its consequences but affected until the end of our lives? I don't think so.
Nah. Flu is still kicking around, and they had the roaring twenties right after that pandemic. It just seems shit now. Really really really shit, yeah, but we’ll come through this. Every generation thinks their time is the most important. There has been pandemics before and honestly COVID has been tame compared to previous ones. They bounced back then, we will do the same.
Everything that happens affects the world, this will be no different. No big deal really, just a bit of a pain for a year or two. It's hardly a war now is it..
Watch as everyone immediately returns to normal
Not about left or right. Just competence. I suspect Camerons government or even Theresa Mays would have managed this pandemic much better. I dislike both but they are more than just bluster.
To an extent but it'll be determined by people's individualism. It seems like the desire to maintain a status quo - look how many were still out shopping at Christmas - is still too much to say the whole country has changed exponentially over this time. I do know some people though who've developed a lot of anxiety and I don't think they'll adjust back immediately.
Economically is a different story. I think 2020 grads and the long-term unemployed will fair poorly and they'll be competing with those of us who've been lucky enough to keep our jobs during this time. I hope the government do something about the training scheme initiatives they mentioned last year because they could be a huge positive longer-term.
Good question too.
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For a significant number of children and economically vulnerable people yes. On a personal level I don't see it making much difference to my outlook.
The thing is, the government say work at home if you can, but there's no actual requirement to prove that a job can't be done at home, so loads of employers are going to force people into work because basically they don't trust them to work from home. It's one of the many ways the government can wash their hands of any responsibility, while putting company profits ahead of public health.
Now you know
#winning
Don't know if this is the right thread to ask this so feel free to move it if not. I'm thinking of booking a flight to Rome late May/early June and there's some flights currently available for £20-40.
For that price would you say the risk (things not improving enough to go, unable to go because it's my time for the vaccine) outweighs the rewards (got a cheap flight safely booked when most have likely skyrocketed due to demand)?
For that price would you say the risk (things not improving enough to go, unable to go because it's my time for the vaccine) outweighs the rewards (got a cheap flight safely booked when most have likely skyrocketed due to demand)?
I mean, it’s £20-40, surely you’re the best one to judge if you can afford to lose that?
Isn't that a bit misleading though considering a lot of the current cases are backlogged?
For that price I'd say its worth the risk.
China has been "forthcoming", some say.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...llow-in-who-covid-investigators-without-delay
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...llow-in-who-covid-investigators-without-delay
Why have we shot up so much? Is it purely the Christmas that did it? I can't imagine that we did that much more mixing than the rest of Europe?
Christmas and the run up. We obviously lost our minds in mid December and went on a massive collective piss-up. Collective piss-ups being something we’ve always been better at than most Europeans.
Living up to Irish stereotypes aside, most Euroean countries had tighter restrictions in the lead up to Christmas. Mainly because they hadn’t been as effective as we were at getting them down in November. What we’re going through now is a massive rebound surge.
Not as poorly as you'd think:
Pretty poorly considering the UK have the highest total number of Covid deaths in Europe and the highest number of covid cases of any country in the World over the last 2 weeks, apart from the USA. We are in a steep ascent, unfortunately.Not as poorly as you'd think:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-have-the-most-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths
Indeed:
UK: 625k new cases in the last 2 weeks
Germany: 210k
Italy: 190k
France: 170k
Spain: 140k
But we need the number of tests undertaken to give a sense to these data.
Tories strategically need to get Johnson out before inquiry seriously starts you'd think which I'm guessing will be mid to late 2022. New guy can just say he wasn't the one making the decisions even though Rishi Sunak or Gove have been at heart of decisions pretty much in last six months.
Kind of hoping inquiry goes into 2023 as then it will all still be in people's minds for the election the next year.
A Tragedy of Indecision.