2021 American Civil War

Meant voters, but your assessment of republican politician vacillation is spot on.
The problem is that an organized 10% of population can successfully seize the power. Trumpists number is much higher than 10% and it is very alarming.

The fact I’d like to highlight is that all these stupid conspiracy trends arise when the ruling elite fails to meet population expectations. It is a mass psychology phenomenon which dates back to ancient Chinese history. Communists, Hitler, Chavez, etc. The rise of populists always means the that political system is failing. Trump is a product of DC politics.
 
The problem is that an organized 10% of population can successfully seize the power. Trumpists number is much higher than 10% and it is very alarming.

The fact I’d like to highlight is that all these stupid conspiracy trends arise when the ruling elite fails to meet population expectations. It is a mass psychology phenomenon which dates back to ancient Chinese history. Communists, Hitler, Chavez, etc. The rise of populists always means the that political system is failing. Trump is a product of DC politics.
Yep. This is nothing new, just packaged differently enough to seem unique.

Not exactly the same as what you are discussing, but some similarities...

 
Yep. This is nothing new, just packaged differently enough to seem unique.

Not exactly the same as what you are discussing, but some similarities...



Well worded by Sykes. A coup in “the greatest, oldest example of democracy” is truly unique. And scary.

I live in the part of the world where coups are a yearly experience. Living under a dictator is a lifetime experience.

For the progressive part of people here, America was always an example of democracy and a symbol of a better world which we will eventually reach. Nobody ever thought that America itself would turn into a dictatorship.
 
Well worded by Sykes. A coup in “the greatest, oldest example of democracy” is truly unique. And scary.

I live in the part of the world where coups are a yearly experience. Living under a dictator is a lifetime experience.

For the progressive part of people here, America was always an example of democracy and a symbol of a better world which we will eventually reach. Nobody ever thought that America itself would turn into a dictatorship.
The blueprint is pretty clear. Just don’t think we have the political will to ensure that the blueprint no longer is effective. Not just yet, anyway.
 
America is fecked.

When that utter buffoon Trump can get such a large and rabid following, what happens when ab actualy competent and clever person of the same shady morals comes to power?

I said to my Americam mate the other day that the silver lining with Trump is that he was incompetant, imagine what Lenin would have done with this much blind support.
 
I said to my Americam mate the other day that the silver lining with Trump is that he was incompetant, imagine what Lenin would have done with this much blind support.
Spot on. Good Old World is much more experienced in this sort of dealings :cool:
 
Spent so much time looking at the US Capitol that I’ve just now seen that there were plenty of other protests at state capitals around the country.
Nutters. Absolute feckin nutters.
 
Four people died today.

Will we see the same at times unhinged furor from those on the right who were all bent out of shape about Benghazi? Same death toll.
 
Well, my prediction yesterday that this might lead to Trump actually being removed from office looks a bit more probable now doesn't it? It might still be a long shot, but even Republicans are calling for it.
 
Absolutely insane. Trump should be prosecuted and sent down after this. This is his doing. 4 years of radicalisation.

I agree. He has incited civil unrest and domestic terrorism. He should jailed imo. Trump has being living according to a different set of rules and norms throughout his presidency. There should be severe consequences for him and other politicians for their actions since the Presidential election. The writing has been on the wall but they carried on with reckless abandon. Its treasoness.
 
I think anybody with a brain understands. All i'll say is, i'd imagine there is more than a few who have walked those halls with the flag inked on their skin. Many Reps who embraced everything wrong with which that flag stood for.

There is that
 
I think anybody with a brain understands. All i'll say is, i'd imagine there is more than a few who have walked those halls with the flag inked on their skin. Many Reps who embraced everything wrong with which that flag stood for.
Yeah I can’t argue with that
 
For 4 years of that war, and for many years after, that flag never entered the capitol, until now. Historic in a fecked up way
Yep. I can’t really explain how much of my life I’ve spent studying that war. It is what got me into history when I was a child, so it’s always been my history hobby area even when I was studying other time periods for actual academic pursuits... I guess that is why it turns my stomach so badly. It’s a “that’s not supposed to be there... too many people died for that to be there“ feeling.
 
Yep. I can’t really explain how much of my life I’ve spent studying that war. It is what got me into history when I was a child, so it’s always been my history hobby area even when I was studying other time periods for actual academic pursuits... I guess that is why it turns my stomach so badly. It’s a “that’s not supposed to be there... too many people died for that to be there“ feeling.
Also the first time since 1814 that the US Gov surrendered the Capitol.

Y’all Qaeda = HM Navy confirmed.
 
Can you believe that this shit is still going, all because Republicans simply believe democrats winning an election is illegitimate. The entire party needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history. This is a disgrace.
 
Can you believe that this shit is still going, all because Republicans simply believe democrats winning an election is illegitimate. The entire party needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history. This is a disgrace.
Yet they are poised to regain Congress in 2022 and win back the Presidency in 2024.

Fascism will rule in America.
 
2022 senate map favors the Democrats. Who knows how House will go though.
I wouldn’t say they are favoured. NV, NH, AZ and GA are all tough turf to defend unless you get a big turnout (D+6 and above). Meanwhile, FL, PA, NC, WI are tough seats to go after, even if they are battleground states, especially with population trend. In WI for instance, Tony Evers won with sth like 20k vote in 2018 in a D+9 national environment.

It’s a slightly lean GOP map imo. Of course things are subjected to changes, but looking at past D midterm performances they don’t exactly fill you with confidence.