This is way too soon,
Wish they'd leave it for another four weeks before making any announcement.
Been waiting ages to play again and news like this will only make it longer...
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This is way too soon,
Wish they'd leave it for another four weeks before making any announcement.
Been waiting ages to play again and news like this will only make it longer...
Thought that was the top leagues for one mad moment! 
They're only doing it because it's the FA Cup and they along with many others are probably secretly hoping they go out so it eases their issue with fixtures.
There's a very different tune being sung in regards to their next league game vs Spurs.
I agree football and many other industries carrying on, but if a production team started posting positive tests at the same incremental rate as the EPL it would be shut down. No questions about it.
The problem with football right now isn't just the positives but the amount that's being played. By the time one team identifies an outbreak, how many other squads have they come into contact with? I'm sorry, but at no point was there this much Covid in the game during the first wave, and we all know it's just going to get worse.
A break for a few weeks wouldn't be the end of the world for the season, it would allow it to continue in the longterm rather than racing towards the inevitable longer break we're heading towards. It's the same lack of foresight as the government. Drain every minute of supposed productivity then shite the bed when things get too bad.
The fact we've got an FA cup weekend with leagues mixing with the EPL is another cause for concern. Guaranteed there'll be loads of postponed EPL games to come following it.
At this rate, they might as well call off the season. Why didn't Villa request for a postponement if City gets it?
Because they want to lose the tie.
The absolute idiocy of comparing the Villa situation to the City one is mind boggling.
Brilliant post bob
Football rivalry pettiness at its worst. Pretty lazy.
After Cuadrado and Alex Sandro also De Ligt tested positive, Juventus defence is in trouble.
It wouldn't happen but FIFA should cancel the international matches in March because the situation will not get so much better in the next weeks and it would help every league with postponed matches.
Which team beat Derby? Theres a video of them group hugging in a small changing room belting out song.
Can people not practise any restraint?
Can people not practise any restraint?
Chorley. 6th tier of English football beat Derby, of the Championship, and through to the 4th round. What do you expect them to do? It's the biggest win most of them will ever have. You see teams hugging celebrating goals all the time.
They are not sick.
Possibly another case at City: someone close to Aguero tested positive so he's in quarantine now.
I'm coming into this with no idea what's really going on - what is the difference between the two situations? Again, I'm genuinely asking, as I don't know the details.
How long until City break the rules again and go unpunished?
You wonder if it will get to the stage wherefootballers need to be taken out of the family environment and live in a bubble.
I can see this happening sooner rather than later if there's question marks over football continuing. They'd much rather do that than stop it all together.
So that would mean many player's will have to do what many normal folk do and leave their family for a bit for work reasons. If this happens i can't wait to see the people moaning about football/footballers getting special treatment start moaning effectively because they ain't
I know what you mean.So that would mean many player's will have to do what many normal folk do and leave their family for a bit for work reasons. If this happens i can't wait to see the people moaning about football/footballers getting special treatment start moaning effectively because they ain't
It would mean the players cannot do anything they shouldn't and the people they are in contact with would be under control.He won’t answer you because he doesn’t really know. He just wanted to make that little throwaway comment and bounce.
I’ve been asking for a week or so and every response I’ve gotten has been very weak:
1- “City requested the postponement and Villa wanted to play.” As if it’s now totally fine for it to be up to the clubs whether they want to play or not. Surely clubs can’t use that to their advantage, can they? (Sarcasm)
2- “It’s a different tournament.” Meaning, we can’t postpone cup games because there’s no room to reschedule them. But we can postpone league games because there is. (?) So basically, play your U-18’s in the Cup games lads, we need to move on with the tournament. The integrity of the competition comes secondary to the footballing schedule. Just get it done; if it gets done wrong, who cares? Except if it’s the league, of course.
3- “There’s a new strain, we didn’t know how bad it would be” Well, we know now, given the country is in a lockdown and we are much better-educated on the increased transmissibility of the new strain. Lo and behold, some games this weekend involving Covid-hit clubs have gone ahead, and some have been called off. We still don’t know whether the ones that have been called off will be played or whether they will be forfeited by the affected club. Which is interesting because you would have thought if this was all part of an actual plan, we would already know whether it was going to be postponed or forfeited. Maybe there isn’t actually a set plan in place?
4- “You’re asking because you hate City, you’re a conspiracy theorist, you’re embarrassing and we’re not RAWK”. Without actually answering the question.
Short answer to your question: they’re winging it. Which is fine, football is secondary to what’s actually going on.
The problem though, is people are desperate to pretend that this is all part of a well thought-out process by the footballing authorities, and that everything went exactly to plan. No idea why, it’s very weird.
Isn't that what the NBA did last year? Put them all in a Disney resort that was shutdown?
Yes. Cricketers have had to do it as well.
I just don't see how we can be made to play vs Spurs on Wed. We already see the precedent set with ourselves having a team postpone vs us because of the Covid issues and apparently the outbreak for us is far worse. Would definitely put Spurs in quite the conundrum though with all of the games they will still have to play.
I just don't know how the plan so far has been to just postpone, postpone, postpone
The FA cup match I think we had to go and play the way which we did otherwise it would've been a forfeit (if im reading the competition rules correctly). Anyways good to get our youngsters a meaningful game vs an elite level senior squad.
I just don't know how the plan so far has been to just postpone, postpone, postpone
The FA cup match I think we had to go and play the way which we did otherwise it would've been a forfeit (if im reading the competition rules correctly). Anyways good to get our youngsters a meaningful game vs an elite level senior squad.
There might not be scenes like this every week but it’s all the justification needed to suspend all football.
Why the feck aren't police telling those idiots to go home? Instead of just keeping them out of the road? Hopefully they did soon after the clip, but who knows how long they were waiting there for.
Yep. Worked a charm, but professional basketball probably has the smallest personnel footprint in sports. It works better logistically. Football is probably next in line from a personnel standpoint, but could y’all execute such? Is there a equivalent of Disney that could house all 20 teams & essential peripheral staff like the PL, referees, & other support staff?
I see mourinho ramping up the pressure for their game v villa to go ahead on Wednesday. If it does, the league has no credibility really given city got a game cancelled at the busiest time of year with a game v championship team in Cup a week later. With the fans situation already unfair this would be even more farcical
Difference being that City's outbreak happened only a day before the game, Villa have known about theirs for a week now and will know for sure who has it and who doesn't. Spurs can't play the fixture at any other point as it stands so what are they supposed to do?
No way we should play.
We had a near identical situation v Newcastle a few months back when they got a couple of cases, then a few more days later and their training ground was closed and at that point calling the match off was completely logical.
I agreed with that at the time as any team can get an outbreak at any time as Fulham have had, Man. City (allegedly) and now we have it.
Mourinho is a bit rich aswell considering 3 of his players were meeting up on xmas day so Spurs could easily have had situation where they'd had covid outbreak this wee and put have to put that 16 year old who scored today v us, I very much doubt they'd want to play the match in the circumstances.
We seemed to be getting punished for putting the youth team out the other day which is an odd way for premier league to go about things considering they've been calling off other matches with much less cases.
What should've happened is argeeing to play Liverpool game (as I don't think we want a forfeit of an FA cup tie in our history book whatever circumstances) but calling off Spurs match at same time so would've given Spurs-Fulham opportunity to play that game on Tuesday or Wednesday so then they get that one out of the way.
This isn't exactly a water tight case for the premier league to fight if they tell us to play and we refuse given what they've decided in last few weeks.
We had a near identical situation v Newcastle a few months back when they got a couple of cases, then a few more days later and their training ground was closed and at that point calling the match off was completely logical.
I agreed with that at the time as any team can get an outbreak at any time as Fulham have had, Man. City (allegedly
) and now we have it.Mourinho is a bit rich aswell considering 3 of his players were meeting up on xmas day so Spurs could easily have had situation where they'd had covid outbreak this wee and put have to put that 16 year old who scored today v us, I very much doubt they'd want to play the match in the circumstances.
We seemed to be getting punished for putting the youth team out the other day which is an odd way for premier league to go about things considering they've been calling off other matches with much less cases.
What should've happened is argeeing to play Liverpool game (as I don't think we want a forfeit of an FA cup tie in our history book whatever circumstances) but calling off Spurs match at same time so would've given Spurs-Fulham opportunity to play that game on Tuesday or Wednesday so then they get that one out of the way.
This isn't exactly a water tight case for the premier league to fight if they tell us to play and we refuse given what they've decided in last few weeks.
Spurs played today, Fulham play Friday. So playing on Tuesday/Wednesday wouldn’t have been possible without moving the Friday game. I doubt neither Chelsea nor the Friday night broadcasters would have wanted that game moved so logistically it wouldn’t have been so straightforward.
Spurs have done 48 hours a few times this season. Not ideal of course but it's not like Marine took much out of them and they'd have made 7/8 changes from what started today in any case, perhaps more.
Or you could've just moved Fulham-Chelsea to Saturday evening given Friday night football hasn't been the roaring success many predicted. Don't really see what difference it makes.
Spurs wouldn’t agree to a 48 hour vs Fulham when they’re scheduled for a 72 hour vs a covid-riddled Villa. Chelsea wouldn’t agree to moving game to Saturday and give up on a valuable extra rest day before they face Leicester on Tuesday. Broadcasters wouldn’t be willing to give up on the Friday night game because that’s a super ideal slot for them especially in the middle of lockdown.
I’ve worked a bit with event management and it’s never as simple as making late changes to the planned schedule and expecting it to make no difference. Every stakeholder sees things from their own perspective, and you need to take in all their perspectives and come up with a compromise that works for all of them. It’s easier to compromise as long as only two teams are involved (Villa and Spurs). It gets really messy when you have to find a compromise between 4-5 teams. There would be serious disharmony if several games with unrelated teams were being moved at such short notice.
No it isn't, there's always gonna be daft cnuts taking the piss be it at a football match or sledging in the park.
People are cnuts.
Just to be clear I didnt label chorley "this group".
Im overly cautious, as I believe maybe wrongly, that despite negative results a breach can happen. Is the person cleaning the locker room checked at the latest possible time? Just one example. Breaches can enter where less stringent testing is done. The further down the football piramid the less stringent theyll be due to resources.
Add to the fact they played a team which just had a full training closure.
Its a great acheivement and great that xyz scored a goal. But I just ask to practise restraint, dont hug, dont shake hands and dont have mass group sing alongs. For a health aspect but ultimately to protect the football piramid and their own livelihoods.
No way we should play.
We had a near identical situation v Newcastle a few months back when they got a couple of cases, then a few more days later and their training ground was closed and at that point calling the match off was completely logical.
I agreed with that at the time as any team can get an outbreak at any time as Fulham have had, Man. City (allegedly
Mourinho is a bit rich aswell considering 3 of his players were meeting up on xmas day so Spurs could easily have had situation where they'd had covid outbreak this wee and put have to put that 16 year old who scored today v us, I very much doubt they'd want to play the match in the circumstances.
We seemed to be getting punished for putting the youth team out the other day which is an odd way for premier league to go about things considering they've been calling off other matches with much less cases.
What should've happened is argeeing to play Liverpool game (as I don't think we want a forfeit of an FA cup tie in our history book whatever circumstances) but calling off Spurs match at same time so would've given Spurs-Fulham opportunity to play that game on Tuesday or Wednesday so then they get that one out of the way.
This isn't exactly a water tight case for the premier league to fight if they tell us to play and we refuse given what they've decided in last few weeks.
Man City played Chelsea away 7 days after their covid outbreak, what's Villa's excuse?