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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I’m really interested as to where he wants them? Attack Belgium? Drones to Den Haag? U-Boats to Stockholm?
If an uninvolved third party just happened to read through this thread from the beginning, I think that this would be the conclusion.
Oh no, they’ve pissed off God now.
I’ll say it again, they are acting out Star Wars trade wars. Who is palpatine?
Tanks in the sea to guard our fish should be our first priority.
Bit rich to take the moral high ground if the jist of this is that the UK won’t allow any export of the AZ vaccine until they’ve received 100 million doses
I wanna see that UK contract sooo bad.
Our happy fish.
feck me there’s a fate worse than death.
We've just closed our borders to non-EU. Another time.
Bit rich to take the moral high ground if the jist of this is that the UK won’t allow any export of the AZ vaccine until they’ve received 100 million doses
I wanna see that UK contract sooo bad.
I don't think the UK have said that have they? In fact, the AZ vaccine is already being produced in India.
The rumours have been that the UK AZ site must give the first 100m doses to the UK.
Is that false information?
Not until the pasteur institute vaccine went tits up.
Ah I thought you meant the UK government had released something saying they were going to control exports, in a similar vein to what the EU are saying now.
If you mean contractually, I have no idea to be honest.
Guardian article
"Ministers were prepared to pay a few hundred million upfront, allowing the company to build its first virus manufacturing process, and the UK government to demand its citizens be vaccinated first.
“That underpinned all of it,” an industry insider said."
So the UK is doing vaccine nationalism and AZ probably did two contracts, with colliding obligations.
And just as a thought:
The US is probably doing the same, so the EU and its production sites are providing not only their own citizens, but also the vaccines for the rest of the world that has no access to vaccinees ( and in fairness Russia and China, not sure about India).
So the UK has the high ground in this debate?
I wonder who authorised this. Looks like a move that has been thoroughly deliberated and planned by Donald Trump.
Mr. Pmurt from some place far away
few people in this thread and other related threads, who for 5 years couldn’t let a gnats fart go by if it painted the EU in a bad light without responding. Suddenly all out for dinner on Friday night it seems
The pfizer-biotech vaccine is a German-American endeavour.
The AZ is a Swedish-British endeavour.
Moderna American.
J&J American.
Novovax American.
All of those vaccine candidates, in different stages of being authorised and used around the world. How exactly is the EU 'providing vaccines for the rest of the world' while the UK and USA are not?
The post makes even less sense seeing as India has been authorised to produce the AZ vaccine in large numbers and has already supplied Brazil with some of the vaccine too.
To be honest, I don't find it that funny to see the EU descend into the same nonsensical political football playing the Tories have been engaging in for the past few years and it isn't good news for the UK if that is the kind of political discourse both sides will engage in in any kind of regular way from now on.
Let's hope it was a one off bad decision made in the heat of the moment by people under incredible pressure and that they row it back before we have the chance to respond in kind.
Let's hope it was a one off bad decision made in the heat of the moment by people under incredible pressure and that they row it back before we have the chance to respond in kind.
The EU is officially finished.
I hope not. The RAF are entering data onto our vaccination system for us. We need them where they are
I mean, you don't actually think that politicians on the continent aren't as cnutish as the ones you have in the UK? Have you seen a single european poster say something good about their politicians?
Sparky still hasn’t told me where he’d send the tanks? The fecker, I’m on tenterhooks here.
ha ha.
We make them that way though in fairness, no non-cnut gets far in politics as we won’t vote for them. We seem to like the sneakiest cnuts best of all.
You're right, they are of course as cnutish as the ones we have here. Just we've been airing our cuntishness for all to see in the past 5 years. Maybe I expected slightly better than the utter depths the Tories have taken us from the EU commission though.
I'm here , looking at French news, nothing about the NI issue so will wait until have the full story.
EU have approved the AZ vaccine, France have shut non-food stores over 20000m2 and have shut their borders from tomorrow night to non-EU travellers without exception.
Although I do see the usual suspects are out in force tonight, making a rare appearance, quelle surprise!
Whatever the whole story is , it seems a bit rich coming from those advocating breaking International law for the past 4 years.
In the end of the day the EU screwed up with the vaccine process. If they could at least admit this and approach the UK with an extended olive branch, I'm sure we could work together for an amicable outcome.
The UK could use this situation to iron out some of the trade export/import issues we've been experiencing lately. However, if the EU wants to play hardball, they'll lose all the people in the UK who amazingly still have high regard for the corrupt Brussels institution.
Not only that, but other EU countries will not be impressed by what they're seeing.
The UK could use this situation to iron out some of the trade export/import issues we've been experiencing lately. However, if the EU wants to play hardball, they'll lose all the people in the UK who amazingly still have high regard for the corrupt Brussels institution.
Not only that, but other EU countries will not be impressed by what they're seeing.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ccines-into-northern-ireland-sources-12202835
Common sense prevails.
Common sense prevails.
No idea why you think the EU would talk to the UK on this. Their beef is with AZ. The UK is not involved in the discussion, more like an innocent bystander because of the location of AZ's production facilities. I have also yet to see a single comment from UK politicians on the matter. (Apart from the NI borders thing, but that has already been revoked and isn't at the core of the issue.)
Guys can you see how desperate the EU is, and what they're prepared to do in a panic situation?
Is this really an EU you can trust?
Seriously?
Is this really an EU you can trust?
Seriously?
What the hell are you talking about? This gets crazier by the moment!
They’ve been told to climb the feck down immediately, that’s accountability.
Who does Bozzer account to?
It'll be interesting to see the analysis why such drastic measures were taken only to be reversed mere hours later. I've seen a Reuters article that suggested a paper was published mistakenly, which perhaps seems plausible, given that even the Irish seemed to be surprised by this. Either way von der Leyen has to answer some questions.
That's what I was thinking when I was reading your post. You said this: 'In the end of the day the EU screwed up with the vaccine process. If they could at least admit this and approach the UK with an extended olive branch, I'm sure we could work together for an amicable outcome.' So then, what would the UK have to offer to the EU here?