Can't disagree with that really
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Looking shite at the momentJanuary transfers
Done Deal
Jeremie Frimpong (20/80): Celtic => Bayer Leverkusen
Rumour
Jose Gaya (25/91): Valencia => Barcelona
Done Deal
Jeremie Frimpong (20/80): Celtic => Bayer Leverkusen
Rumour
Jose Gaya (25/91): Valencia => Barcelona
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Who do I have to pay to get @CrackersJr relegated?
no body tell him.
I will take bribes to tank my team and relegate myself for the right price.
Visualisations
Cumulative Division 1 points
Cumulative Division 1 points
- Arsenal overtake City into third thanks to City's relegation.
- Forest has overtaken Villa into sixth. Both are certain to overtake Newcastle next season after their relegation.
- Darlington have overtaken Spurs into the top 10.
- Twelve teams have passed the 1000 point mark. Spurs is 11th on 1053 and Sunderland is 12th on 1046.
- 45 teams have contended in Division 1 since its inception, with Cardiff City being the latest.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative points since Season 6.
- Arsenal become the third team to pass the 1500 goal mark.
- Eleven teams have passed the 1000 goal mark with Sunderland being the 11th passing 1000 goals this season.
- Forest has overtaken Newcastle into fifth, Aston Villa has overtaken Chelsea into seventh and Darlington has overtaken Spurs into ninth.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative goals since Season 1, though Everton aim to overtake this next season.
- Everton had the longest streak of cumulative Top 4 finishes with 9 from Season 12 to Season 20 inclusive.
- 18 teams have finished in the Top 4, with Cardiff City being the latest in Season 21.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on Top 4 finishes since Season 1.
- 27 teams have won at least one major honour. Middlesbrough being the latest side to do so this season.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on major honours won since Season 8.
Race to 90 (III)
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
@Big-Red and @RedSky sold their players, so they're off the list.
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
- 2mufc0 (Sunderland): Benoit Badiashile - 87 (73)
- The Taurean (Nottingham Forest): Myron Boadu - 85 (76)
- green_smiley (Southend Utd): Mohammed Ihattaren - 85 (70)
- Litterbug (Blackburn): Victor Mollejo - 82 (70)
- Damien (Man Utd): Eddy Salcedo - 80 (73)
- harshad (Bristol City): Angel Gomes - 78 (75)
- infamous7 (Fulham): Tiago Dantas - 78 (73)
- christy87 (Chelsea): Luan Candido - 78 (70)
- Wino1 (Wolverhampton Wanderers): Jack Clarke - 77 (77)
- dutza 90 (Middlesbrough): Ki-Jana Hoever - 76 (73)
- BenitoSTARR (Cardiff): Erkan Eyibil - 73 (70)
@Big-Red and @RedSky sold their players, so they're off the list.
Who was my player? Gaetano?
Whats the status on R290 IV
I'm going through the 73 names now.
Yes.
This is a great timeline visual tbfVisualisations
Cumulative Division 1 points
Cumulative Division 1 goals
- Arsenal overtake City into third thanks to City's relegation.
- Forest has overtaken Villa into sixth. Both are certain to overtake Newcastle next season after their relegation.
- Darlington have overtaken Spurs into the top 10.
- Twelve teams have passed the 1000 point mark. Spurs is 11th on 1053 and Sunderland is 12th on 1046.
- 45 teams have contended in Division 1 since its inception, with Cardiff City being the latest.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative points since Season 6.
Cumulative Division 1 Top 4 finishes
- Arsenal become the third team to pass the 1500 goal mark.
- Eleven teams have passed the 1000 goal mark with Sunderland being the 11th passing 1000 goals this season.
- Forest has overtaken Newcastle into fifth, Aston Villa has overtaken Chelsea into seventh and Darlington has overtaken Spurs into ninth.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative goals since Season 1, though Everton aim to overtake this next season.
Cumulative major honours
- Everton had the longest streak of cumulative Top 4 finishes with 9 from Season 12 to Season 20 inclusive.
- 18 teams have finished in the Top 4, with Cardiff City being the latest in Season 21.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on Top 4 finishes since Season 1.
- 27 teams have won at least one major honour. Middlesbrough being the latest side to do so this season.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on major honours won since Season 8.
Race to 90 (IV)
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
@Dom Gill sold his player already, so he's off the list.
Since Szos has been sold to Leipzig, Sucic has been playing a fair bit more. But I'll be stunned if anyone beats Wirtz to 90.
Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
- Gythio (Aston Villa): Florian Wirtz - 85 (77)
- LungiDevil (Leeds United): Nuno Mendes - 82 (78)
- Wino1 (Wolverhampton Wanderers): Gabriel Veron - 82 (76)
- spontaneus1 (Barnsley): Harvey Elliott - 82 (76)
- infamous (Fulham): Jamal Musiala - 82 (73)
- The Stain (Leyton Orient): Josko Gvardiol - 82 (73)
- Varun (Arsenal): Adil Aouchiche - 82 (73)
- RedSky (Hereford): Noni Madueke - 80 (76)
- LitterBug (Blackburn Rovers): Becir Omeragic - 79 (73)
- L M (West Ham United): Bartosz Bialek - 78 (78)
- Sepukku (Southampton): Cristian Olivera - 78 (78)
- CrackersJr (Newcastle United): Troy Parrott - 78 (77)
- Ravelation (Darlington): Luis Henrique - 77 (73)
- BenitoSTARR (Cardiff City): Joelson Fernandes - 76 (76)
- Dans (Bournemouth): Luke Matheson - 76 (76)
- dutza90 (Middlesbrough): Taylor Harwood-Bellis 76 (76)
- P-Nut (Ipswich Town): Crysencio Summerville - 76 (76)
- The Taurean (Nottingham Forest): Eduardo Quaresma - 76 (76)
- Akash (Kidderminster Harriers): Lazar Samardzic - 76 (73)
- Damien (Manchester United): Luka Sucic - 75 (70)
- 2mufc0 (Sunderland): Amad Traore - 73 (73)
- Big-Red (Tottenham Hotspur): Mustafa Kapi - 73 (73)
- Springfield WildCats (Milton Keynes Dons): Naci Unuvar - 73 (73)
- christy87 (Chelsea): Luka "Mexican Messi" Romero - 68 (68)
@Dom Gill sold his player already, so he's off the list.
Since Szos has been sold to Leipzig, Sucic has been playing a fair bit more. But I'll be stunned if anyone beats Wirtz to 90.
Have a feeling IV will finish before III. Some quality players in the former.
Insane. Thank feck Haaland wasn't eligible.This was back when I picked Gaetano. 30 of these players have been sold since.
When did 3 start
Around 7th April 2019. Annoying thing for me is Dest would have been eligible but I picked Salcedo.
I could of went with saka, who if he keeps playing like he is could get another +2 in the summer
#STOBACK
Yeah, was never going to win based on timings. My youth is so much stronger now, and I have a better view at who could actually make it.
FFP and Youth Table February 2021
FFP Status (1 February 2021)
Div 1
Thanks to @green_smiley for access to the spreadsheet for calculating team FFP.
February 2021 Youth Table
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in February
Youngest managed players rated 82+
Top 10 youth players by points
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 37/42
- Manchester United - 44/45
- Arsenal - 47/48
- Liverpool - 50/50
- Sunderland - 49/51
- AFC Bournemouth - 52/52
- Aston Villa - 47/52
- Barnsley - 50/52
- Chelsea - 52/52
- Darlington 1883 - 51/52
- Everton - 51/52
- Fulham - 52/52
- Middlesbrough - 50/52
- Nottingham Forest - 50/52
- Southend United - 51/52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 52/52
- Cardiff City - 50/53
- Ipswich Town - 48/53
- Bristol City - 53/54
- Hereford - 54/55
- West Ham - 49/50
- Manchester City - 43/51
- Newcastle United - 49/52
- Blackburn Rovers - 49/54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 49/54
- Norwich City - 46/54
- Southampton - 50/54
- Leeds United - 48/55
- Derby County - 40/56
- Leicester City - 37/56
- Charlton - 48/58
- Preston North End - 28/58
- Bury - 39/59
- Kidderminster - 57/60
- Gillingham - 57/61
- Leyton Orient - 58/61
Thanks to @green_smiley for access to the spreadsheet for calculating team FFP.
February 2021 Youth Table
| Position | Team | Points | # of Players |
|---|---|---|---|
1 | Southend United | 72.7 | 21 |
2 | Nottingham Forest | 39.3 | 15 |
3 | Hereford | 35.3 | 16 |
4 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 35 | 13 |
5 | Fulham | 33.3 | 15 |
6 | Sunderland | 31.2 | 12 |
7 | Barnsley | 28.9 | 14 |
8 | Newcastle United | 26.6 | 12 |
9 | Middlesbrough | 25.7 | 11 |
10 | Manchester United | 25.6 | 7 |
11 | Leyton Orient | 25 | 14 |
12 | Arsenal | 23 | 10 |
13 | Manchester City | 19.6 | 7 |
14 | Aston Villa | 19.4 | 7 |
15 | Everton | 18.6 | 9 |
= | Chelsea | 18.6 | 8 |
17 | Blackburn Rovers | 16.9 | 9 |
18 | Liverpool | 16.3 | 9 |
19 | West Ham United | 15.6 | 9 |
20 | Kidderminster Harriers | 14.4 | 8 |
21 | Cardiff City | 13.5 | 5 |
22 | Bristol City | 13.3 | 6 |
23 | Bury | 13 | 6 |
24 | Norwich City | 11.1 | 5 |
= | Milton Keynes Dons | 11.1 | 6 |
26 | Bournemouth | 9.5 | 7 |
27 | Tottenham Hotspur | 8.9 | 3 |
28 | Darlington | 8.5 | 6 |
29 | Southampton | 6.5 | 3 |
30 | Charlton Athletic | 5.8 | 2 |
31 | Leeds United | 5.3 | 3 |
32 | Ipswich Town | 3.1 | 2 |
33 | Gillingham | 2.8 | 1 |
34 | Derby County | 0 | 0 |
= | Leicester City | 0 | 0 |
= | Preston North End | 0 | 0 |
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in February
| Team | Player | Rating | Birthday | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Leyton Orient | Edmond Tapsoba | 89 | 2 | 4.5 |
Wolverhampton Wanderers | Martin Zubimendi | 85 | 2 | 2.5 |
Bournemouth | Fran Beltran | 87 | 3 | 3.5 |
Hereford | Andriy Lunin | 83 | 11 | 1.5 |
Blackburn Rovers | Tyler Adams | 87 | 14 | 3.5 |
Southampton | Ignatius Ganago | 85 | 16 | 2.5 |
Liverpool | Alex Pozo | 85 | 22 | 2.5 |
Bury | Roman Evgenyev | 82 | 23 | 1 |
Southampton | Krepin Diatta | 86 | 25 | 3 |
Southend United | Gianluigi Donnarumma | 92 | 25 | 6 |
Southend United | Matvey Safonov | 85 | 25 | 2.5 |
West Ham United | Adolfo Gaich | 83 | 26 | 1.5 |
Milton Keynes Dons | Boubakary Soumare | 87 | 27 | 3.5 |
Youngest managed players rated 82+
| Rank | Team | Player | DOB | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester City | Rayan Cherki | 17 Aug 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
2 | Manchester United | Jude Bellingham | 29 Jun 2003 | 17 | 86 | 4.2 |
3 | Aston Villa | Florian Wirtz | 3 May 2003 | 17 | 85 | 3.7 |
4 | Barnsley | Harvey Elliott | 4 Apr 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
5 | Fulham | Jamal Musiala | 26 Feb 2003 | 17 | 82 | 2.2 |
6 | Tottenham Hotspur | Yunus Musah | 29 Nov 2002 | 18 | 83 | 2.4 |
7 | Newcastle United | Pedri Gonzalez | 25 Nov 2002 | 18 | 87 | 4.4 |
8 | Southend United | Matias Arezo | 21 Nov 2002 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
9 | Newcastle United | Giovanni Reyna | 13 Nov 2002 | 18 | 86 | 3.9 |
10 | Nottingham Forest | Eduardo Camavinga | 10 Nov 2002 | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
Top 10 youth players by points
| Rank | Team | Player | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester United | Jadon Sancho | 20 | 92 | 6.3 |
= | Hereford | Erling Braut Haland | 20 | 92 | 6.3 |
3 | Southend United | Gianluigi Donnarumma | 21 | 92 | 6 |
= | Southend United | Matthijs de Ligt | 21 | 92 | 6 |
5 | Southend United | Alphonso Davies | 20 | 91 | 5.8 |
6 | Southend United | Kai Havertz | 21 | 91 | 5.5 |
= | Tottenham Hotspur | Joao Felix | 21 | 91 | 5.5 |
8 | Chelsea | Ferran Torres | 20 | 90 | 5.3 |
9 | Southend United | Alessandro Bastoni | 21 | 90 | 5 |
10 | Nottingham Forest | Ansu Fati | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
= | Nottingham Forest | Eduardo Camavinga | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
Manchester United Season 23 agreed loans
Cengiz Under (23/89) => Ipswich Town
Vinicius Junior (20/89) => Newcastle United
Available for loan to anyone interested
Ibrahima Konate (21/88)
Sander Berge (22/87)
Sergino Dest (20/87)
Ridle Baku (22/87)
Cengiz Under (23/89) => Ipswich Town
Vinicius Junior (20/89) => Newcastle United
Available for loan to anyone interested
Ibrahima Konate (21/88)
Sander Berge (22/87)
Sergino Dest (20/87)
Ridle Baku (22/87)
Top 3 
You have @Wino1 to thank. He was third until he sold Brewster last night.Top 3
Sweet. 30 more points to catch up with greenie.
RS will overtake me first.
RS will overtake me first.
The following clubs have stadium capacity increased
Div 1
Southend United: 42999 -> 43586
Middlesbrough: 42449 -> 43391
Cardiff City: 39617 -> 42237
Ipswich Town: 36492 -> 41284
Bristol City: 33130 -> 37804
Hereford: 30788 -> 35008
Div 1
Southend United: 42999 -> 43586
Middlesbrough: 42449 -> 43391
Cardiff City: 39617 -> 42237
Ipswich Town: 36492 -> 41284
Bristol City: 33130 -> 37804
Hereford: 30788 -> 35008
New FFP (S23)
Div 1
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 42
- Manchester United - 45
- Arsenal - 48
- Liverpool - 50
- Sunderland - 51
- Aston Villa - 52
- Barnsley - 52
- Bournemouth - 52
- Cardiff City - 52
- Chelsea - 52
- Darlington - 52
- Everton - 52
- Fulham - 52
- Ipswich Town - 52
- Middlesbrough - 52
- Nottingham Forest - 52
- Southend United - 52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 52
- Bristol City - 53
- Hereford - 54
- West Ham United - 50
- Manchester City - 51
- Newcastle United - 52
- Blackburn Rovers - 54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 54
- Norwich City - 54
- Southampton - 54
- Leeds United - 55
- Derby County - 56
- Leicester City - 56
- Charlton Athletic - 58
- Preston North End - 58
- Bury - 59
- Kidderminster Harriers - 60
- Gillingham - 61
- Leyton Orient - 61
New FFP Status (2 Feb 2021)
Div 1
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 37/42
- Manchester United - 45/45
- Arsenal - 47/48
- Liverpool - 50/50
- Sunderland - 49/51
- Aston Villa - 48/52
- Barnsley - 50/52
- Bournemouth - 52/52
- Cardiff City - 50/52
- Chelsea - 52/52
- Darlington - 51/52
- Everton - 51/52
- Fulham - 52/52
- Ipswich Town - 47/52
- Middlesbrough - 49/52
- Nottingham Forest - 50/52
- Southend United - 51/52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 53/52
- Bristol City - 53/53
- Hereford - 54/54
- West Ham United - 49/50
- Manchester City - 43/51
- Newcastle United - 50/52
- Blackburn Rovers - 49/54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 49/54
- Norwich City - 46/54
- Southampton - 50/54
- Leeds United - 49/55
- Derby County - 40/56
- Leicester City - 37/56
- Charlton Athletic - 48/58
- Preston North End - 27/58
- Bury - 39/59
- Kidderminster Harriers - 57/60
- Gillingham - 56/61
- Leyton Orient - 59/61
Loan Cap (S14 and onwards)
- Applies to unmanaged clubs only
- Loan cap = FFP minus 40, first come first serve (e.g. if your FFP aka squad limit is 50, your loan cap = 50 - 40 = 10, which means you can only loan 10 players out to unmanaged clubs)
- Duration for the above - until Turn 2 every season. After Turn 2, it is free-for-all
- HARD RULE: Only players with rating 75 and/or above are allowed to be loaned out - if you spot someone breaking this, tell them to recall the player
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So with loans you can loan more if they are going to managed clubs?
Yes. I can loan 5 to unmanaged clubs, and usually end up loaning 3 on top of that to managed ones.
You should tag those that have had FFP changes @Damien
Yep, was planning to once I updated the original post of the thread (didn't want people looking at the OP thinking they were the numbers). Taking a while.
Revised targets for next season (assuming agreed transfers with Wino and CJ go through):
- Finish in Top 12
- Third round in either Cup or Shield
- Get at least three points against Hereford FC
Targets for next season:
- Finish in Top 8
- Last 16 in either Cup or Shield
- Get to a Quarter Final
- Get at 2 wins against either Man Utd, Everton, Arsenal or Cardiff
