Mate I'm. football fan first and foremost. I'd happily give up united if other fans got to enjoy it. fecking hate this.
European Super League
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It was bad enough in 2000 when the FA manipulated us into the World club champs, but wouldn't make any allowances us in the FA cup, hence us having to pull out.
That was dreadful, and this would be 100 times worse.
What a great idea in the middle of a pandemic. I really look forward to travelling all over Europe. Oh wait it's not over yet.
Oh and I can't afford it right now.
Oh and I can't afford it right now.
Bring on Brexit football if this is what happens when you allow foreign ownership.
No. It benefits the Glazers. It benefits no one else attached to the club.
I wonder how much we make from ST sales.
I don't think it will just be Europe. Can't wait to watch us play Arsenal in Miami in a battle for 8th place in one of the groups
This is kind of impossible at the moment. Though I hate the idea myself, so i understand the outrage.
Game has been going this way for ages, it started with Sky. Funny that people draw the line here. Should have drawn the line 30 years ago when Sky came in. It’s all the same.
What does this mean? Will this be an additional competition for these 12 clubs or is it a replacement league for the clubs own domestic leagues? From the hysteria, I’m thinking it’s the second one. What would happen to the champions league? Do they still play in that? I’m confused! Seeing Gary Neville’s reaction, this looks massive one way or another.
fecking hell I’m debating with Jay from inbetweeners
You start calling me a cnut etc and come up with that reaction?
How about you start thinking before you type or is your frontal lobe permanently disconnected?
Roy Keane condemns plans for European Super League: "They couldn't care less about the football supporter who walks out and supports their club"
Well no. were regulated and we can get regelated and were abided by the very same rule that lowest club is. Do you really want to end that?
They would be out of the Champions League, the current indication is they want to stay in the domestic competitions but the associations have said they would be excluded and in reality I suspect they wouldn't want to stay for long anyway but can't say that from the start.
Can you please refrain from such vulgar language.
UEFA prize money to be cut for five years due to COVID-19 - report
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UEFA want to expand the CL to include more clubs, which likely reduces the revenue for the existing big clubs.
UEFA have also completely failed to reign in oil money clubs thanks to their farcical FFP implementation, and this has hugely driven up costs for the non oil big clubs.
The big clubs have been talking of a breakaway continental tournament for a while now, to pressure UEFA into bending to their whims/drop the expansion ideas but UEFA haven't done it, so the big clubs have gone ahead with the breakaway league plans.
It's happening to Burnley now as well. Their owners done a Glazers and have out their debt on the club
Heart bleeds.
Ag
Agreed, introducing relegation to American sports is the equivalent of removing it from European. Unfortunately that’s what happens when capitalism takes over the sport.
Absolutely, can you have a look at the first post then maybe?
If this is true I am disgusted. Very disappointed, especially with my club Arsenal and Liverpool!
Just plain wrong on so many levels.
Just plain wrong on so many levels.
Elvis is an admin. He's banned folk for far less.
Ya, this would end football for me in all honesty
The people for this, does the idea of being in a competition where you cannot be relegated and teams are there based on their brand rather than merit not sound farcical to you? Why would you even want to be part of that competition?
And I'm sorry, as nice as playing Madrid or Juventus is, I've grown up watching United go to Newcastle, Everton, Villa, West Ham, Forest and the rest and would rather do that. Travelling back from games in the car on some cold night but bouncing from the results. Give me that over watching a stream of United playing Barcalona in Dubai.
And I'm sorry, as nice as playing Madrid or Juventus is, I've grown up watching United go to Newcastle, Everton, Villa, West Ham, Forest and the rest and would rather do that. Travelling back from games in the car on some cold night but bouncing from the results. Give me that over watching a stream of United playing Barcalona in Dubai.
None of those would be commercially viable. There could be several games in the USA though.
If many top clubs sign up they'll basically be banning all the good players from their tournaments.
Imagine Burnley v Sampdoria in the Champions League
PSG, Bayern, Dortmund have all said no - still plenty of good clubs
It ensures a future for the club. I don’t like this either, but I’ve never liked the corruption of the game by money. At this point I’m long past giving a shit.
Well, great - am I overreacting, or just as things are clicking into place with Ole and the squad, are we now facing being kicked out of the Premier League, FA Cup and Champions League next season? This could be very messy.
This would also make it rather difficult to win the treble next season.
This would also make it rather difficult to win the treble next season.
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Oh look. A fecking coolest trophy in world football isn't enough for us.
There's a future for the club of regardless of whether we're in this or not, we're currently 2nd, we're not fighting relegation.
that’s down to bad owners. Any club owner overspending to try to get in the Prem with money they don’t have is a fecking idiot. It doesn’t have to be done. This is a choice.
It ends in spectacular failure a lot of the time too. Look how long Derby and Sheff Wed have been chasing this return to prem dream. They’re both in the bottom four of the championship heading to league one.
Since they were last in prem, the likes of Huddersfield, Reading, Bournemouth, Sheff Utd, Hull City have all come up on a fraction of their budgets. Three of those were literally in league one two/three years before they got into the prem.
This is some 1984 - freedom is slavery bullshit right here.
An organisation who has a monopoly over football, is using their power to try to blackmail private businesses into competing in their tournament rather than a non-sanctioned one and you want the government to prevent the competitor league by supporting punitive action?
Obviously under the current paradigm being part of the Champions League is something that no club would decline their qualification to, but surely clubs are free to turn this down and play whatever games they choose instead - if there is a market for the games to be televised they have a right to pursue it even if its a greedy move and not in line with a traditional view of football.
Something the moral guardian of the game PL has already pitched.
I am struggling to understand how any fans can be for this? I genuinely don't see anything positive or redeeming about it at all.
I missed the bit where Sky stopped relegation and promotion.
It might be novel, for a season, but would quickly become dull, like it does when you play the same team in the champions league a lot over a few years.
And there's no potential for excitement in the future, and in effect no risk with not winning enough games as you stay in the league.
All they need to do is add drafting, add quarters for more ads and we'd have a horrible American style set-up, which is based on entertainment rather than anything actually mattering about it.