There was a lot of talk about money. But they weren't opening a closed shop, they were essentially taking the top division away from the control of the Football League. The clubs from Division 1 started the Premiership, promotion and relegation remained in place. This is an incredibly lazy comparison I have seen today from people who were not around and frankly it is not comparable in the slightest.
European Super League
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They invest money the club makes because of our history.
They do it to keep us vaguely competitive and therefore keep the money flowing into their pockets. The fact it’s not enough to take us beyond City doesn’t matter to them
The standard of the overall competition dictates the merits of winning. This is why beating Real Madrid in a pre season friendly in LA means less than it would in the final of the CL.
Are you new to football?
This. Seeing a lot of crap being posted. I cant see anywhere on BBC the Europa and CL have been postponed or cancelled or whatever but these accounts are spreading that BS
What's the incentive to invest in the best players and scouting? There's no danger of relegation.
All we end up doing is paying even more to our current crap players and maybe add a few more mediocre ones to keep us respectable. Why? Because our Vice-chairment of the Super League, who took 2 years to understand the offside rule, is keeping his mate Woodward (an alumni of JP Morgan by the way...) will be given free reign to keep his rule of incompetence.
And finally, if you think getting a few more million a year is worth destroying the sport in which the club participates, then I'd say we disagree on our principles for watching the sport altogether.
Yeah completely agree. This is my point, we don't know much yet, lets see what happens. The SL won't be perfect but it's better than what we have right now. Should be good entertainment all round
The only thing I would feel sorry would be if we are kicked out of the Premierleague, that's it. CL with soon 36 clubs, European Championship with almost all of Europe in (just not my country 
), WC with more and more teams, why should I care. The only difference was that at WC you could watch some "exotic" teams and that's it.
), WC with more and more teams, why should I care. The only difference was that at WC you could watch some "exotic" teams and that's it.No, I know that the announcement has been made. I mean we are guessing as to what will actually happen.
Feels like I've been stabbed through the heart. feck the Glazers, Pérez, Kroenke, etc.
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City fan mate.
Yeah that's true!
This whole thing is just utterly bizarre. European Super League, we all knew sooner or later something like it might come around. But this is so not thought through, it's laughable
What an absolute mess. A closed shop competition not based on merit is a disgrace.
No doubt our **** of an owner was heavily involved.
Can't wait to watch Arsenal get ploughed by Europe's "elite" every Wednesday whilst Stan rakes in the billions.
No doubt our **** of an owner was heavily involved.
Can't wait to watch Arsenal get ploughed by Europe's "elite" every Wednesday whilst Stan rakes in the billions.
Crossed my mind, too.
Who's paying you to write this shit?
One big worry for the SL is what the long-term plan is for financial growth and sustainability. JP Morgan will given them a large sum for the first few years, and they might get some sponsors or even broadcasters to show their games, but what about after, say, 5 years? How will they grow? What's their plan to prevent financial stagnation?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to expand the SL and invite more clubs in as members just like MLS already does. In a way, I can see the SL becoming an elaborate Ponzi scheme just like MLS is.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to expand the SL and invite more clubs in as members just like MLS already does. In a way, I can see the SL becoming an elaborate Ponzi scheme just like MLS is.
Yeah - they won their fecking league which gave them a lot more right to be there than us but don't let that stop you setting yourself on fire it would probably be the highlight of the night.
you are giving them ideas
Sponsorship money, ticket prices for match going fans,...., like in the NBA. There is still a lot of money in the game.
Spurs
Perez and the Glazers must have been drunk when they invited Spurs
FIFA surely need to ban any player from international tournaments, that'll kill this instantly.
I’d respect it more if they did.Spurs
I don't care what happens to Villa, good luck to them. I don't think teams like Midjyitland should be playing in a competition that's billed for Europe's 'elite' when the couldn't even beat a half decent Championship side.
I was alive and a Utd fan of 16 years when the PL arrived and it was absolutely nothing like this.
For fecking obvious reasons.
Pretty sure a super league means a big fat pay rise
I asuume United Zone are just trolling. They seem to be the only source of the most extreme tweets in the last couple of pages.
So you haven't read the official statement? Or the statement from Arsenal, Liverpool and spurs? It's in plain English
Besides which, it's all irrelevant. Our club have signed up to this. No consultation with supporters. Just by signing up they have betrayed every single supporter.
Dortmund, Bayern and PSG have all had the integrity to immediately refuse to join.
If I was him I’d have to speak out. Sack me if you want, I couldn’t go along with it. Today’s game now means nothing, same as every game we’ve played this season. It’s all been building towards feck all, and I feel sorry for Ole the most. He’ll be seething, the club have gone behind his back. They’re doing this with or without him.
I'm very interested how the managers of the clubs will respond to this all.
Pep and Klopp were crying before the league started this year.
Pep and Klopp were crying before the league started this year.
I was afraid of being cancelled
Yeah promotion/relegation is a much better model than knockouts.
So how is two teams playing in a European Super League the same as a friendly? Strange comparison.
There will definitely be a second tier at some point I think.
Theres a big official statement mate and Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have all released statements confirming their joining.
You still don't get it. The Glazers want to maximise returns. If they make more money by buying good players, instead of the stars, they'll do that because they'll get the same or very similar payment from the Super League.
And in the end, what's the point? We'll win some soulless, plastic competition with no history? feck that.
Ah sorry, didn't see that. I understand now.
That's exactly how I feel. A bunch of greedy men have banded together to try and destroy our game and sacrifice it on the altar of cash. This can't be allowed to happen. Fans, National associations, other clubs, the resistance has to be unyielding. They couldn't even wait for this season to end??? Suddenly I'm not sure what we're playing for the next few weeks.