He is only 30 years old so he was probably dealing with nappy rash at the time.
European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
He is only 30 years old so he was probably dealing with nappy rash at the time.
If there are weakened teams, it's an opportunity for small clubs to close the gap right? Isn't UEFA already planning for.a top 6 CL anyway ?
I reckon there'll a fair few broken legs in the Premier League if the Sinister Six are allowed to stay.
Clattenburg will just referee all of them.
Selfish 6
We’re signed up to PES anyway.
Maybe not, initially. As I said above, City were nobody until someone invested. If the product continues to be of a high quality - and not all players can play in the ESL, it'll still be marketable and watchable. I suspect there are more people abroad tuning into those games than you think.
Shameless Six is also a nice one.
I know! Absolute nightmare to find info
"They are just maximising the clubs revenue potential" by essentially ending the competition our players literally died fighting for.
League rules prohibit clubs from entering non-sanctioned tournaments, so hopefully the so called big 6 will not longer be a part of the league going forward.
Would I be able to purchase strawberry scented arsenic?
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^ Exactly top 4 becomes pointless. This season in particular shows how entertaining it can be when one club (City) runs away with the league but still the competition for Champions League places is in flow between like 6-7 others teams. Exciting to watch, now we'll have 6 teams in some European Super League (guaranteed) not arsed about where they finish in the PL unless it's 1st. Playing in a rotation of teams year on year. Non-knockout style.
It's going to be trash. Sucking out so many factors that make games/competition entertaining.
If the remaining 14 clubs are happy to share a TV deal about 15-20% of the last one.
Fair point. Could be argued I guess that agreeing to play in an unsanctioned competition would trigger the same clause, I dunno.
Close what gap? These clubs will be getting a hundred million more than the others every season so can outspend them when signing players, they will have a guranteed spot in this competition that the likes of Leicester and West Ham won't have, it's a rigged game. So Leicester get into the Champions league which is missing the biggest teams and inevitably earn less? There is no scenario where clubs can close the gap, this is a system they've come up to ensure these same 12 teams are all that matters and cannot be replaced.
This is my biggest issue with it honestly, watching Arsenal flail around in mid table and looking forward to them being out of Europe has been a real highlight for me and now the Super League is spoiling my fun.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
I won’t pay to watch this super league. If there is enough of us who won’t, it really won’t be lucrative for long.
Imagine clubs come begging FA to come back in the PL, get a no and have the choice between an unpopular ESL, which the players also shun because of repercussions for national team selection, and starting back in the National League. If we’re ever getting rid of the Glazers and getting fan power back this could be how. Only silver lining i see atm...
I won’t pay to watch this super league. If there is enough of us who won’t, it really won’t be lucrative for long.
Imagine clubs come begging FA to come back in the PL, get a no and have the choice between an unpopular ESL, which the players also shun because of repercussions for national team selection, and starting back in the National League. If we’re ever getting rid of the Glazers and getting fan power back this could be how. Only silver lining i see atm...
But they will have a better chance to be in european competitions so maybe can boost their income that wayIf the remaining 14 clubs are happy to share a TV deal about 15-20% of the last one.
Leeds, villa and everton are arguably bigger clubs than 3 of the teams going into this super league. They’ll rise to the top again and hopefully Man city and a few others will be forgotten about again. I’m just gutted United are mixed in and pushing it all.
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Would surprise no one. This is from a few months ago, sound familiar?
https://www.skysports.com/football/...er-united-in-talks-for-fifa-backed-tournament
Yes I think. Pes doesn't have the licenses anyway. This would kill the Fifa franchise , they're already losing the battle.
A European competition with less prize money and smaller tv deals.
Aren't United getting sponsorships which Leicester can only dream of? Isn't Barca and Real already funded by state ? Doesn't Chelsea and City has unlimited pool of money ? The damage is already done. The small clubs aren't catching up the oil clubs anyway unless they are state funded. Just see this as an additional sponsorship which clubs are getting because of their huge fanbase.
Just watched Neville's podcast, sums it up beautifully. If the ESL were to be a success it would be the status quo for the next 20 years if not longer. Honestly if I were the FA I would be saying to all the clubs, you wanna go go, but you wont be playing in our league or cups. I'm a huge Levy fan but this is just ALL feckING WRONG.
The selfish 6 cannot have this superleage and remain in the EPL, that is something that cannot happen, for the reasons already listed in this thread. Their team selections in midweek would be favoured towards a more lucrative competion, whilst resting players in the EPL where they are not bothered where they finish. This would ruin the integrity and fair play of the league.
I think the line on hope is something that hit me when this was announced. You're just removing hope from any other club. You're taking the biggest teams in the game, removing them from a competition that is deemed the pinnacle of success for the sport and putting them in another league somewhere that no other club can touch? Disgraceful.
2 different points. Other clubs aren't getting any additional revenue anyway. They just don't have the exposure like these clubs have. PL would still be here with the same revenue, same broadcasting rights means- same revenue to all small clubs.
Second point - up for discussion. I don't know the details but we are already doing ICC. Isn't it ?
Absolutely this
As supposed to getting fecked over right now? Yes
Nah cause look on the other side.
It all depends on how they're marketed. City have come from a place with less "history" than Everton, so with the right backing, who knows?
My point is that the quality of the League is good enough to continue and to be a money spinner, if those clubs are moved on. To the same extent? Probably not, but then it becomes about marketing a product and how well you do that over a period of time. In 10 years, who know.
The PL is entertaining - more so that other leagues around Europe and is better resourced. Not every player can be at the top table, and nor can people who want to invest. Savvy business people want to be in football and it's not just because of Champions League revenue - hence why a billionaire just bound Sunderland in League 1.
Would the PL prefer clubs to stay? Of course, but if the consequence of that is to totally diminish the product itself then they may be faced with a stark choice. The PL's appeal in recent years has been the fact that it's competitive. If this proposal kills that then they may be better moving on without these clubs.
I must have missed the games this season where Ole rested players on Saturday...what with us playing a game every single midweek up until now.
This just won't happen, loath them or loath them you cannot deny the business acumen of NFL owners like the Glazers and Kroenke. They understand marketing and selling their sport to tv networks on a much deeper level than poor old UEFA or the PL. If this thing happens, and it certainly looks like it will, it will generate more cash and bigger ratings than any other club competition. If the PL, La Liga etc. decide to kick the clubs out then they will simply expand their business model and you will end up with 24 or 28 of the biggest clubs in Europe involved and the remaining competitions will wind up being little more than semi-pro.