Cop in America doing a bad job, again

@Skizzo, oh please please tell me you have one of these for Dwazza

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At least he doesn't have to worry about exhaust burns.
 
This recent killing is a tough one. I posted the info more to the point of the frequency of these events.

Some in here have been discussing ‘what happened before’ the clip, but it seems that the decedent was the person who called the cops due to her feeling threatened.

She was attacking the other girls, the police do have a legal right to be protectors. At that exact moment, the cop seems justified.

Extremists will take an unmoveable pro / con stance in here, but not every event like this offers up the reality of those views.

Threat assessment still seems perhaps the biggest issue for me, more to the macro sense of such.

Unfortunately, the cop wasn’t presented with enough time to macro assess properly.
 
This recent killing is a tough one. I posted the info more to the point of the frequency of these events.

Some in here have been discussing ‘what happened before’ the clip, but it seems that the decedent was the person who called the cops due to her feeling threatened.

She was attacking the other girls, the police do have a legal right to be protectors. At that exact moment, the cop seems justified.

Extremists will take an unmoveable pro / con stance in here, but not every event like this offers up the reality of those views.

Threat assessment still seems perhaps the biggest issue for me, more to the macro sense of such.

Unfortunately, the cop wasn’t presented with enough time to macro assess properly.

Being a "stand your ground" state, if she didn't was the starter of the aggressions, the girl had every right to use lethal force if she thought her safety was at risk.

In that case, the copper shot the wrong person I guess.

The clips shown so far are not long enough for us to determine if that was the case or not.
 
Being a "stand your ground" state, if she didn't was the starter of the aggressions, the girl had every right to use lethal force if she thought her safety was at risk.

In that case, the copper shot the wrong person I guess.

The clips shown so far are not long enough for us to determine if that was the case or not.

Question maybe what would the cop had done if she was white.
 
Being a "stand your ground" state, if she didn't was the starter of the aggressions, the girl had every right to use lethal force if she thought her safety was at risk.

In that case, the copper shot the wrong person I guess.

The clips shown so far are not long enough for us to determine if that was the case or not.
I think the clip shows how difficult the immediacy of the situation was.

But it also shows where the system might have holes in it.

It does show the lunacy of saying that a victim had priors, was out on probation, held a gun to a pregnant victim’s stomach during a home invasion, stupid shit like that.
 
I would guess that she was pretty fecking terrified if she felt she had to defend herself with a knife. I doubt that she even knew the cops were there at that moment.
That’s really not how gunshots work in real life, unless you hit the CNS or pelvic girdle.
I see, I obviously know nothing about firearms.

So you can get shot and just carry on? Whenever I've seen the videos of people getting shot they usually go down pretty quickly.

Do you think putting 5/6 bullets into this girl was justified?
 
I see, I obviously know nothing about firearms.

So you can get shot and just carry on? Whenever I've seen the videos of people getting shot they usually go down pretty quickly.

Do you think putting 5/6 bullets into this girl was justified?

Depends where you're shot and your state of mind/if you're on anything. For example a tweaking 250lb meth head is probably going to need a very well placed shot or a lot of rounds to go down.

5-6 rounds in this girl was not justified. I appreciate that it was a fluid situation but I think it all happened a little too quickly.
 
I’m not familiar with him I don’t think, one of my friends in the US just reposted it.
Couldn’t punch it in against a reeling Rams’ team in the 99 NFC Championship game for my Bucs. Lost my support forever.

This Shaun King is an opportunist grifter who has been embroiled in controversies, one of the times where the messenger does cloud the message.
 
I see, I obviously know nothing about firearms.

So you can get shot and just carry on? Whenever I've seen the videos of people getting shot they usually go down pretty quickly.

Do you think putting 5/6 bullets into this girl was justified?
Movies can make gun shot wounds seem massively deadly no matter where they strike or massively ineffective.
 
Movies can make gun shot wounds seem massively deadly no matter where they strike or massively ineffective.
and whatever you do, if video games have taught me anything, do not let them find a first aid kit. Those suckers can fix any gunshot immediately.
 
Really? I have heard him interviewed where he says his father was black.

A few outlets claimed both parents listed on his birth certificate were white, but he’s explained his father was someone else who wasn’t listed. I think he went into a bit more detail in terms of his mother’s relationships etc
 
I see, I obviously know nothing about firearms.

So you can get shot and just carry on? Whenever I've seen the videos of people getting shot they usually go down pretty quickly.

Do you think putting 5/6 bullets into this girl was justified?
As @Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said, there are many variables that affect how someone reacts to a gunshot wound. There’s plenty of evidence of people with nothing but adrenaline in their systems keeping going after multiple gunshot wounds to even critical areas.

From reports I’ve read, it was 4 shots. Was 4 “justified”? I mean... I don’t know. It was a split second decision and there was a person about to stab another person. If you’re the girl that didn’t get stabbed because of those 4 shots, then yeah, you’re probably saying absolutely. If you’re a person against police using deadly force, then you’ll say absolutely not.
 
As @Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said, there are many variables that affect how someone reacts to a gunshot wound. There’s plenty of evidence of people with nothing but adrenaline in their systems keeping going after multiple gunshot wounds to even critical areas.

From reports I’ve read, it was 4 shots. Was 4 “justified”? I mean... I don’t know. It was a split second decision and there was a person about to stab another person. If you’re the girl that didn’t get stabbed because of those 4 shots, then yeah, you’re probably saying absolutely. If you’re a person against police using deadly force, then you’ll say absolutely not.

I think the better question to ask is why werent those four shots used to shoot each of her limbs
 
The most expensive $25 donation.
You said it.

There’s a modicum of difference between this cat who was a two decade veteran in charge of fecking IA when he was canned & a line grunt.

If I was a cop who was internally ruled against by this idiot, I would demand a review. No clue what the actual process is for such, but if someone could be so ignorantly blithe with their bias in that particular instance, no doubt that his decision making processes were flawed as well.
 
As @Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said, there are many variables that affect how someone reacts to a gunshot wound. There’s plenty of evidence of people with nothing but adrenaline in their systems keeping going after multiple gunshot wounds to even critical areas.

From reports I’ve read, it was 4 shots. Was 4 “justified”? I mean... I don’t know. It was a split second decision and there was a person about to stab another person. If you’re the girl that didn’t get stabbed because of those 4 shots, then yeah, you’re probably saying absolutely. If you’re a person against police using deadly force, then you’ll say absolutely not.

Indeed. Even the calibre, projectile type and distance to target can have an impact on the effects.
 
What are the chances this goes to a union backed grievence civil trial and he gets a payout?
 
Really? I have heard him interviewed where he says his father was black.
Well, it might boil down to whether you believe him or Milo; it’s admittedly a tough call...

(from Wiki)

Questions regarding race
In August 2015, Milo Yiannopoulos questioned King's biracial identity in an article for Breitbart News. Yiannopoulos reported that King's birth certificate lists Naomi Fleming and Jeffrey Wayne King, both of whom are white, as King's parents[5] and that a police report cited King's race as "white."[76]

King responded that his mother has told him that his biological father was not the man mentioned on his birth certificate but rather a light-skinned black man.[7][12] His wife, who knew him in high school, and other classmates have stated that they understood King to be biracial growing up.[5][77][2]
 
Well, it might boil down to whether you believe him or Milo; it’s admittedly a tough call...

(from Wiki)

Questions regarding race
In August 2015, Milo Yiannopoulos questioned King's biracial identity in an article for Breitbart News. Yiannopoulos reported that King's birth certificate lists Naomi Fleming and Jeffrey Wayne King, both of whom are white, as King's parents[5] and that a police report cited King's race as "white."[76]

King responded that his mother has told him that his biological father was not the man mentioned on his birth certificate but rather a light-skinned black man.[7][12] His wife, who knew him in high school, and other classmates have stated that they understood King to be biracial growing up.[5][77][2]

One is a grifter and an absolute piece of racist and homophobic trash (especially now with his "conversion"). The other might just be a pseudo-grifter (I am not as down on him as you). Gonna go with King on this.