European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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Joel Glazer's open letter to all United fans:


The whole letter feels quite hollow and something that probably wouldn't even fly in America, but at least he can now say that said something about this whole thing.

The apology:
 
While the ESL wasn't quite the right solution, if you take a step back and look at the big picture, the rigged system today is far worse long term economically for fans and is a slow death to football as we know it.

Any rich investor can come in, pump money, raise costs for everyone in the football pyramid. The impact to ALL fans is rising cost of watching games on TV, attending games, and buying merchandise.

Most modern sport leagues counter this by implementing a salary cap of sorts. But UEFA is corrupt and has shown they won't do this.

So don't empathize with the greedy broadcasters and corrupt UEFA who stand to make the most from maintaining status quo. A 50+1 ownership is the BEST step to solving this. And our best shot to get that was through an escalation between ESL and UEFA. With ESL disbanding, things will return to the status quo and the need for overhaul will be lost.
 
mazhar13 said:
Joel Glazer's open letter to all United fans:


The whole letter feels quite hollow and something that probably wouldn't even fly in America, but at least he can now say that said something about this whole thing.

The apology:
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Someone tell Simon Stone to tell them to get fecked
 
mazhar13 said:
Joel Glazer's open letter to all United fans:


The whole letter feels quite hollow and something that probably wouldn't even fly in America, but at least he can now say that said something about this whole thing.

The apology:
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Dancfc said:


I wonder if Neville and Linekar will give this the same energy.
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This coeficient bullshit is EXACTLY how the basketball euroleague started and it ended with a de facto closed european league. If thats the route, in less than 10 years will progressively implement more restrictions till it will be a ESL but ruled by FIFA. So even worse than what had been proposed

Will happen justvmore silent and the fans will barely protest because it will be with small increments instead of the shock that the ESL caused in the last 3 days
 
4bars said:
This coeficient bullshit is EXACTLY how the basketball euroleague started and it ended with a de facto closed european league. If thats the route, in less than 10 years will progressively implement more restrictions till it will be a ESL but ruled by FIFA. So even worse than what had been proposed

Will happen justvmore silent and the fans will barely protest because it will be with small increments instead of the shock that the ESL caused in the last 3 days
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It will still be custodian UEFA managing it rather than the clubs themselves, which was the silliest idea ever.
 
What’s happening with the Super League now? Who is still in it?

Real Madrid still committed to making it happen?
 
Footyislife said:
While the ESL wasn't quite the right solution, if you take a step back and look at the big picture, the rigged system today is far worse long term economically for fans and is a slow death to football as we know it.

Any rich investor can come in, pump money, raise costs for everyone in the football pyramid. The impact to ALL fans is rising cost of watching games on TV, attending games, and buying merchandise.

Most modern sport leagues counter this by implementing a salary cap of sorts. But UEFA is corrupt and has shown they won't do this.

So don't empathize with the greedy broadcasters and corrupt UEFA who stand to make the most from maintaining status quo. A 50+1 ownership is the BEST step to solving this. And our best shot to get that was through an escalation between ESL and UEFA. With ESL disbanding, things will return to the status quo and the need for overhaul will be lost.
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Yep, with everyone delighted with the death of the SL (especially the PL/UEFA/SKY/BT) momentum will be lost and the status quo will quickly return. Majority of fans of other clubs outside the 6 won't give a feck about changing the ownership model as most of them are probably still hoping their club is the next one to win the billionaire lottery. Chelsea and City fans won't be pushing to get their owners to up sticks any time soon either and they certainly won't give a feck about United, Liverpool and Arsenal's american owners bleeding those clubs dry. The Government have their PR win so their review into football ownership will likely amount to the square route of feck all.

But yay the Super League is dead.
 
Dancfc said:


I wonder if Neville and Linekar will give this the same energy.
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Yeah so much for sporting merit, as I said yesterday UEFA only opposed the Super League because they were being cut out of it.
 
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I hope the inevitable Netflix documentary can shed some light on what the hell Spurs were doing. Doesn’t even look like the people involved knew they were invited.
 


Let's see what these sanctions will be. Given that there wasn't anything that materialised at the end of the day, I'm not expecting much more than some fines.
 
mazhar13 said:


Let's see what these sanctions will be. Given that there wasn't anything that materialised at the end of the day, I'm not expecting much more than some fines.
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A year outside the CL/EL competitions for the 12 so the rest of the clubs can prove that they can get on perfectly well without us, would seem to be fair.

May as well do it next year (although it would be annoying to let Liverpool/Chelsea off the hook for a non top 4 finish).
 
Infra-red said:
A year outside the CL/EL competitions for the 12 so the rest of the clubs can prove that they can get on perfectly well without us, would seem to be fair.

May as well do it next year (although it would be annoying to let Liverpool/Chelsea off the hook for a non top 4 finish).
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You could always word the punishment as "a season's ban from UEFA competition that the club qualified for."
 
Infra-red said:
A year outside the CL/EL competitions for the 12 so the rest of the clubs can prove that they can get on perfectly well without us, would seem to be fair.

May as well do it next year (although it would be annoying to let Liverpool/Chelsea off the hook for a non top 4 finish).
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That will never happen because the UEFA needs the 12 clubs......no one will care about a quarter-final between Real Sociedad vs Wolfsburg.
 
clarkydaz said:
Any more ramblings from Perez?
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"Well done UEFA, you've won. You ruined my league so that you could keep the money for yourself. I hope that the Champions League makes you very happy and that you use the money to get some lessons in grace and decorum because you have all the grace and decorum of a reversing dump truck with no tyres"
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
That will never happen because the UEFA needs the 12 clubs......no one will care about a quarter-final between Real Sociedad vs Wolfsburg.
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You'd have Napoli, Bayern, Roma, Sevilla, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Monaco, Porto, PSG, Benfica, Ajax in the mix.

I reckon you could make some palatable quarter finals out of that lot.

Ban the 12 for a year - it's only a year and they truly deserve it.
 
UEFA aren't going to ban the 12 clubs they were desperate to keep hold of now that the SL is dead, that's common sense.

Maybe they'll just ban Spurs, because well you know.
 
pratyush_utd said:
So which is true

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-city-play-in-european-super-league-v9582d6sm

British envoy warned UAE not to let Manchester City play in European Super League


Or these "journalist" stories

Shiekh the saviour

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...h-Mansour-just-unlikely-saviour-football.html

Roman the lover of English legacy





Edit : Also funny how you can warn UAE about Mancity while their fans maintain its private investment.
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Matt Law is up Romans arse. Allegedly paid by him/club
 
DSG said:
Yes, you are most likely correct I would think. Live broadcast models are changing across the industry as well.


It was something like 10-12% less than the older age group. So, relatively significant.
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But aren’t they 10-12% smaller not just in viewership size but population size? There’s just fewer gen z than millennials
 
Infra-red said:
You'd have Napoli, Bayern, Roma, Sevilla, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Monaco, Porto, PSG, Benfica, Ajax in the mix.

I reckon you could make some palatable quarter finals out of that lot.

Ban the 12 for a year - it's only a year and they truly deserve it.
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99.99% of the people (Players, coach, staff and fans) at every ESL club had no idea about the ESL and have had no interest in ESL......a ban would be 100% fine if they would have voted for the ESL too.

But there were just 20-30 people from all 12 ESL clubs with this stupid idea.

A ban is not the solution......maybe -50 points for the club-coefficient-ranking.

But a quarter-final Leipzig vs Sevilla + Ajax vs Porto + Dortmund vs Paris + Bayern vs Roma would be not acceptable for the TV stations.....the TV stations are paying so much money therefore a ban for the 12 clubs will 100% not happen.....the UEFA cares about feckin money and not was is fair.
 
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