justsomebloke
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you make a good point. Another example is where a defender pulls down an attacker at a corner when the attacker wouldn’t have even got to the ball, or the ball was 15 yards away - it’s still a pen.
it is interesting because there used to be a tendency for pens not to be given If the attacker was kicking the ball out of play, and the ball was no longer under control. Technically should still be a pen, but the convention was often not to give it.
I still think it’s soft, as I thought Cavani landed on Smalling as much as being taken out.
it’s another grey area, that shouldn’t be grey.
Re your first example above; I don't think the point is how far away from the ball the attacker is or whether he could have gotten to it, but whether the defender is preventing him from participating in the attack. Even if he was far away from the ball when he got taken down, he might have gotten in position for a rebound or a pass as the situation continued. Hence, a basis for a penalty, but it depends on the situation. But if the action of the defender makes no difference to that (as I think was the case here), then it usually doesn't get called. And I think there's some sense in that.