Those sound like the over 18 vaccination percentages. When it comes to case rates unfortunately I think we need to look at population level numbers.
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I'm curious who's not had it and why
Looks like the rise is in 20-30 year old, no surprise
I’m hoping this is a joke.
Because you don’t definitely have Covid until you test positive. To be afraid of a Swab and expect to discuss your ‘illness’ online is so childish. Get another test. You’ll probably need another ten in the next 2 years. Harden up.
Dunno if I’m the only one but I quite enjoy sticking the stick up my nose. There’s a weird euphoria too it. It’s also quite a challenge to not sneeze when doing it. Ive used up all twenty of my home kits purely to experience shoving the stick up my nose.
In the Sydney outbreak 3 people in their 80's and 90's have tested positive but so far are not symptomatic which is pleasing.
Based on the fairly terrifying case numbers in the UK in the past few weeks the deaths should be at 100+ per day by now going off the last peak - and are currently averaging about 15-20.
Hopefully this means the vaccines are doing a pretty damn good job.
Hopefully this means the vaccines are doing a pretty damn good job.
That’s probably as weird as not wanting to do it at all. It’s the throat part I can’t stand. I have a terrible gag reflex apparently.
This is too easy...
Anyway @SirAnderson It seems like you have it. So just wait 10 days from your first symptom started. Then if by the end of 10 days you don't have any fever nor new symptom nor symptom getting worse, then you should be out of it. Just isolate yourself till that end of 10 days.
This is scarily reminiscent of “something weird is happening in Kent” concerns from autumn last year
at this stage i think we are not anywhere near the end of this poxy virus.
Thanks @Isotope I have been isolating so far. It been about 8 days or so, my wife is positive and is over 12 days since see presented symptoms.
Have a question though, at what point is it no longer contagious? After 10 days?
If it’s like this during the summer, the winter is going to be another write off.
No idea how retraining works, will have to look into it.
Are you a smoker (ex or current)? My brother in law is one (me too) and it's the same with him, he can't smell the shittier stuff
We in our winter months here and its crazy. Level 4 lockdown and probably will only peak mid August.
The official guidelines, at least in US, is to isolate at least 10 days since first symptom started, or 10 days since testing date if asymptomatic. If you are sure that your wife was infected with the same virus type as you (getting from the same source), then you are free to be in contact with her (assuming she's out of her isolation already); since her body has that immune system (for at least 2-3 months or so).
If you'll be in contact with high risk people, then I suggest to get retested by the end of 10 days, or to isolate for 14 days (and meet those conditions I said on early post). If not, 10 days seems like the magic number for isolation.
Cool, thanks, pretty sure it came from the same source yeah. Appreciate the feedback.
This is scarily reminiscent of “something weird is happening in Kent” concerns from autumn last year
Yes, history repeats itself unfortunately
Prob a silly question but why don’t we see new variants in Ireland? We are close to the U.K. and yet the U.K. keeps spawning new ones
Yeah I threw it out there waiting for a childish reply from someone.
This is scarily reminiscent of “something weird is happening in Kent” concerns from autumn last year
All of her threads since start of pandemic have been pessimistic even when cases were falling
Has she been wrong?
Was one of her previous “pessimistic” threads that annoyed you her prediction in early June that the delta variant meant the UK would see tens of thousands of cases every day by mid July?
After you're tested negatives on the PCR.
Normally it's 10 days minimum. But most of people would do 14 to be save.
If you can afford it and it's not a hassle on your nasal you can get tested everyday and once you're negative you're good to go.
X days minimum are just a guideline so you can have a rough estimation. But the clear line would be the test result.
Some remains positives longer than 10 days.
My wife wont take chances. She just did the 21 days and got tested on the 22nd just to be save.
Those pcr arent cheap here.
Sometimes yes, as every expert has. There’s definitely a niche in being overly optimistic and overly pessimistic that certain experts with social media presence have recognised is beneficial to their profile.
Who said I’m annoyed? What a ridiculous thing to get precious about
But we went from acceptance cases would rise to pretending to be aghast cases were rising
“precious “? What the feck are you on about now? I’m trying to understand what you mean by “pessimistic”. It seems to me you’ve mixed it up with the word “realistic”.
If you’ve actually followed Prof Pagel’s tweets you’ll have seen she was one of the first to focus on delta cases surging, while overall cases were falling. Which is how the UK ended up where it is now. The ability to see through larger trends and identify important underlying red flags is something we need more, not less of.
Obviously we all hope this surge of cases in the NE of England in older, vaccinated people is just some weird quirk of the data. But it’s definitely something that needs to be kept a very close eye on. Because this is exactly what the early signs of a new, vaccine resistant variant would look like. You’ll note that Prof Pagel didn’t specifically mention that possibility. Just asked if anyone had any ideas to explain what was going on. Which is not what you’d expect from someone who is being wilfully pessimistic.
@Pogue Mahone
Genuine question - If I say that she is overly optimistic, would you be happy with my understanding of things?
Genuine question - If I say that she is overly optimistic, would you be happy with my understanding of things?
Isn"t the UK overwhelmingly vaccinated with AZ?
@Pogue Mahone
Genuine question - If I say that she is overly optimistic, would you be happy with my understanding of things?
No idea what you mean. Sorry.
It is. And the PHE data published so far seems to show that AZ works well against the delta variant. Not as well as mRNA but well enough.
So I guess it remains to be seen if these new cases are in accordance with the expected efficacy of the AZ. But probably someone already did the numbers, I've not opened those tweets.
This is scarily reminiscent of “something weird is happening in Kent” concerns from autumn last year
Ah, feck. A new Geordie variant (hopefully called the pi variant).
If it's mainly affecting the over 30s, that could be bad news for people on the AZ vaccine.
This is scarily reminiscent of “something weird is happening in Kent” concerns from autumn last year
Im pretty sure the vaccination rate, in terms of percentage in the North East has been lower than other parts of the country.
Newcastle, currently the highest case rate per 100k, has a first dose rate of 68%.
Her commentary throughout this pandemic has always been a glass half empty though, so it does not surprise me that she’s picked up on this and not the more positive stories of hospitalisation stays being greatly reduced (both in admission and duration of stay). Thus a long term perspective of the health service being able to manage this better compared to previous waves.
Think it was just to go around smelling certain things for an extended period. Also heard of eating lots of chillies. And nah not a smoker..
So the Sunday papers are reporting that all restrictions will be lifted two weeks Monday in England.
Mask wearing gone.
All social distancing gone.
As much as I want things back to normal, this all seems very worrying with infection rates exploding again
Mask wearing gone.
All social distancing gone.
As much as I want things back to normal, this all seems very worrying with infection rates exploding again
That's just madness. While i realise we cant stay indoors forever, relaxation should be gradual. As soon as NL dropped the mask for everything but public transport, i'm one of the few that still wears one in the supermarket. I'm sure some people just think it's over and there is no longer a risk.
This will lead to another lockdown in October and Boris will be finished.So the Sunday papers are reporting that all restrictions will be lifted two weeks Monday in England.
Mask wearing gone.
All social distancing gone.
As much as I want things back to normal, this all seems very worrying with infection rates exploding again
More AZ than mRNA but not overwhelmingly so.:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...irus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting