Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

Maybe their owners should fly in a load of foreign workers to attend the games and sing songs, then make them live in the stadium during the week in horrid conditions. They have loads of experience doing that kind of human resources management.
 
Green_Red said:
Maybe their owners should fly in a load of foreign workers to attend the games and sing songs, then make them live in the stadium during the week in horrid conditions. They have loads of experience doing that kind of human resources management.
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I'll do it for one game; my price is free gasoline for life.
 
WeePat said:
Chelsea fans were upset with Mourinho one time back in 2015 when, after a game away at QPR of all teams, said he wishes to have an atmosphere at the Bridge similar what he'd just experienced at Loftus Road. I think Klopp said something similar about Anfield a few years ago. Most big clubs have problems with atmosphere in way or another, some have it worse than others, but I can't think of any other club who win major trophies regularly, that have such a big problem with attendance.
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RaRa's wish you'd care about them ;) Even we've left them behind now :D
 
el diablorojo said:
RaRa's wish you'd care about them ;) Even we've left them behind now :D
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It's the only west London club I dislike to be honest, so I can't exactly claim I don't care about them :D

Brentford and Fulham are the friendly neighbours, especially Brentford as this is the first season in my lifetime we've been in the same league. I was buzzing when you were promoted. I admire you quite a lot as a club. Fulham is the club I truly couldn't care any less about.
 
OK. i am from asia so i do not know the geo of england etc.

So, Manchester are one big city/country?

So if Manchester are really divided by United and City, why aren't the other half supporting City? Is it because all of Manchester used to support United back in the day when City isn't relevant so 80% of Manchester is a United fan.

Or is it because of something else?

Hope my questions make sense. Thank you.
 
stefan92 said:
While he was at Bayern, there was a discussion about the atmosphere in the stadium. But he did not discuss it, this was left to Hoeneß:
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Damn Hoeness didn't leave anything untouched, we paid 350m EUR for the stadium and giving you tickets for 7 EUR won't pay for it. It's not our job to get the atmosphere going that is your job. What a hammer.
 
arthurka said:
Damn Hoeness didn't leave anything untouched, we paid 350m EUR for the stadium and giving you tickets for 7 EUR won't pay for it. It's not our job to get the atmosphere going that is your job. What a hammer.
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To give some context: This was on the annual general meeting of the club (so everyone present in that video is a member, not only a fan). Someone was unhappy with the silent VIP ticket holders, and Hoeneß response was basically "we milk those people so that we have the money to have the great team and stadium, you can still come for little money but you should take care of the atmosphere. If you want it different, vote for another club CEO, not for me again"

So in fact much different from the situation at City, but there might be a certain pattern - people thinking Pep's way of football is just not exciting and not provoking a lot of reaction from the fans.
 
Manchester City are basically a marketing toy for Etihad Airways. The name on the shirts, the stadium, the cheesy adverts promoting Abu Dhabi based companies. That's really what it's all about. That is the owners 'skin in the game'. They mainly bought them for two reasons, one being that they were cheap to buy (and the owner was desperate to sell before he went to prison), but the main factor was that they shared a location and name with Manchester United, one of the biggest sporting entity's on the planet.

They then looked around at the people who made Barcelona FC successful and made them an o££er they couldn't refuse. They call it 'the project' because that's what it is to them. A business venture, an experiment in maximising the advertising potential of their products. They couldn't care less about the core fans. They want tourists, and day trippers in Man Utd kits to come to their matches. They want people to worship false Gods, like injury prone Belgian defenders, who they build statues for??? Not for world cup heroes or Ballon d'Or winners, a statue for someone who just turned up, took the money and didn't complain!!

In the drone footage that they produced for celebrating winning the PL, they shamelessly flogged the corporate hospitality and tunnel club before showing anyone the actual PL trophy. This is who they are now. They have become the thing that they always hated. A faceless, corporate entity, built on sand. The sort of people who turn their noses up at Mancunians in the street. From the very top, to the very bottom of that club, there is not one real genuine Manchester City fan on the payroll. They are all hired hands. Pigs eating from the trough. And when they've all had their fill, they will be off for good. Only ever to return one day, slightly bemused, because some marketing dweeb in Mayfair has decided that they should have a statue made for them. "Erm...thanks guys...this is such an honour to have this pockmarked lump of metal that looks nothing like me! I will be sure to visit you all again in the next decade!"

The backlash against Guardiola today is comical. He isn't there because he loves the club, or has any sort of affinity to the fans. He's there because they pay him £18 million a season. And now that the clock is running down and he can see some light at the end of the tunnel, he's starting to let his true feelings out. He took their money, but deep down he is embarrassed by them. That is why he makes comments like he did in the interview last night. Even giving the time of the kick off on Saturday. Could you imagine any other manager saying that to their fans? He's serving out his notice, and settling a few gripes before he goes. I doubt that he will ever darken their door again. Unless they build him a statue!
 
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makcikkaulawa said:
OK. i am from asia so i do not know the geo of england etc.

So, Manchester are one big city/country?

So if Manchester are really divided by United and City, why aren't the other half supporting City? Is it because all of Manchester used to support United back in the day when City isn't relevant so 80% of Manchester is a United fan.

Or is it because of something else?

Hope my questions make sense. Thank you.
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I can handle this from my excellent U.S. education, particularly in geography. Manchester is a large country near England, but they speak Manc actually. Half of the country is divided by a large wall, the "great wall" which unfortunately for City separates the Country into two regions, one mainly bluish in color (mainly consisting of uninhabitable areas and country bumpkins) the other red which has a port and thriving cities and a music scene including the great "Stormzy".
 
Chief123 said:
What makes it worse is Man City have invested so much money in the community and on the brand image of the club to increase its popularity!
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Ya they've literally thrown everything at it. The PR, the legal battles, the local investment, buying a 100m pound player they didn't really need to try make themselves more popular, poaching guardiola, cringey manufactured documentaries etc etc etc

Still here they are with a manager begging fans to show up and flogging champions league tickets for a few quid. A vacuous mess of a club
 
USREDEVIL said:
I can handle this from my excellent U.S. education, particularly in geography. Manchester is a large country near England, but they speak Manc actually. Half of the country is divided by a large wall, the "great wall" which unfortunately for City separates the Country into two regions, one mainly bluish in color (mainly consisting of uninhabitable areas and country bumpkins) the other red which has a port and thriving cities and a music scene including the great "Stormzy".
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Couldn't have put it any better myself.
 
WeePat said:
It's the only west London club I dislike to be honest, so I can't exactly claim I don't care about them :D

Brentford and Fulham are the friendly neighbours, especially Brentford as this is the first season in my lifetime we've been in the same league. I was buzzing when you were promoted. I admire you quite a lot as a club. Fulham is the club I truly couldn't care any less about.
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Fulham are all Victoria sponge, neutral stands and clappers ;) but I do like going there on an away day always lots of bees in the pubs and nice views of the Thames when having a beer at the back of the stand.

Hoping we do better on or next trip to Stamford Bridge then our last two visits ;)
 
stefan92 said:
While he was at Bayern, there was a discussion about the atmosphere in the stadium. But he did not discuss it, this was left to Hoeneß:
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That's way older, that was from 2007.
By 2014 the relationship between Bayern fans and board was actually sort of decent I think.
 
Wheato said:
Manchester City are basically a marketing toy for Etihad Airways. The name on the shirts, the stadium, the cheesy adverts promoting Abu Dhabi based companies. That's really what it's all about. That is the owners 'skin in the game'. They mainly bought them for two reasons, one being that they were cheap to buy (and the owner was desperate to sell before he went to prison), but the main factor was that they shared a location and name with Manchester United, one of the biggest sporting entity's on the planet.

They then looked around at the people who made Barcelona FC successful and made them an o££er they couldn't refuse. They call it 'the project' because that's what it is to them. A business venture, an experiment in maximising the advertising potential of their products. They couldn't care less about the core fans. They want tourists, and day trippers in Man Utd kits to come to their matches. They want people to worship false Gods, like injury prone Belgian defenders, who they build statues for??? Not for world cup heroes or Ballon d'Or winners, a statue for someone who just turned up, took the money and didn't complain!!

In the drone footage that they produced for celebrating winning the PL, they shamelessly flogged the corporate hospitality and tunnel club before showing anyone the actual PL trophy. This is who they are now. They have become the thing that they always hated. A faceless, corporate entity, built on sand. The sort of people who turn their noses up at Mancunians in the street. From the very top, to the very bottom of that club, there is not one real Manchester City fan on the payroll. They are all hired hands. Pigs eating from the trough. And when they've all had their fill, they will be off for good. Only ever to return one day, slightly bemused, because some marketing dweeb in Mayfair has decided that they should have a statue made for them. "Erm...thanks guys...this is such an honour to have a this pockmarked lump of metal that looks nothing like me! I will be sure to visit you all again in the next decade!"

The backlash against Guardiola today is comical. He isn't there because he loves the club, or has any sort of affinity to the fans. He's there because they pay him £18 million a season. And now that the clock is running down and he can see some light at the end of the tunnel, he's starting to let his true feelings out. He took their money, and deep down he is embarrassed by them. That is why he makes comments like he did in the interview last night. Even giving the time of the kick off on Saturday. Could you imagine any other manager saying that to their fans? He's serving out his notice, and settling a few gripes before he goes. I doubt that he will ever darken their door again. Unless they build him a statue!
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A magisterial post.
 
Offsideagain said:
Ha ha City fans clogging up the talk shows to tell everybody how hard it is to get tickets and banging on about have
ind 32,000 at Maine Road (capacity 80,000) in the third division. That obviously included away fans too. What ever spin they put in it, they just aren’t a big enough club. Only ‘local working class fans’, well a bloke called Talksport from Blackpool and another from Harrogate which isn’t local. They cannot defend it, their own manager begging for fans. They may put on free buses from Stockport this Saturday.
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Maine Road was not 80,000 capacity in the late 90s! The banter with City is fun but when they sunk down the leagues their fans stuck it out and they really did get 30+ thousand attenance which was a full house.

It's a shame about the Abu Dabi version of City - they used to be a proper traditional English club. And as a Manc I can say that a hell of a lot of people in Manchester have both red and blue relatives, mates and coworkers.

I love the banter but when both sets of fans stray into making up bollocks it's just childish tbh
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
AC Milan are about as relevant to Champs league as Bournemouth over the last decade ,Klippety in his romantic dewy eyed vision of europrean football , in fact the last time they met it was the European Cup , when it was proper comeptition when the CHAMPIONS played and not some half arsed football club finsihing 20 points behind the leaders.
If the Champions league was actually the CHAMPIONS league the Dippers woud have been in the wilderness for THIRTY feckING YEARS , its ony the greed of UEFA that has kept the Scouse Bastards relevant.
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Champions Leagues won by Milan: 7
Champions Leagues won by City: 0
 
WeePat said:
Chelsea fans were upset with Mourinho one time back in 2015 when, after a game away at QPR of all teams, said he wishes to have an atmosphere at the Bridge similar what he'd just experienced at Loftus Road. I think Klopp said something similar about Anfield a few years ago. Most big clubs have problems with atmosphere in way or another, some have it worse than others, but I can't think of any other club who win major trophies regularly, that have such a big problem with attendance.
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You were beating us 4-0 under Conte and all you could hear was the United fans singing. Conte had to try and rile the home crowd up if I quite rightly remember.
 
The United Irishman said:
You were beating us 4-0 under Conte and all you could hear was the United fans singing. Conte had to try and rile the home crowd up if I quite rightly remember.
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I don't remember that particular incident, but yeah we do have major problems with the noise levels at home games. Our away support is much better, but then that's the same for most PL teams, especially the top teams, in my experience.

I've been to countless PL grounds throughout the years, and the only teams whose home support I've been impressed with each time I've visited was Everton and Palace, but when all those other teams come to the Bridge, they always bring very loud supporters with them.
 
The backtracking at Gaurdiola's press conference today will be scripted to within an inch of its life. He doesn't even need to speak, just make the noise of a truck reversing. "BEEP BEEP BEEP - CAUTION, THIS VEHICLE IS REVERSING - BEEP BEEP BEEP."
 
Wheato said:
The backtracking at Gaurdiola's press conference today will be scripted to within an inch of its life. He doesn't even need to speak, just make the noise of a truck reversing. "BEEP BEEP BEEP - CAUTION, THIS VEHICLE IS REVERSING - BEEP BEEP BEEP."
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@BeepBeepImAJeep
 
Wheato said:
Manchester City are basically a marketing toy for Etihad Airways. The name on the shirts, the stadium, the cheesy adverts promoting Abu Dhabi based companies. That's really what it's all about. That is the owners 'skin in the game'. They mainly bought them for two reasons, one being that they were cheap to buy (and the owner was desperate to sell before he went to prison), but the main factor was that they shared a location and name with Manchester United, one of the biggest sporting entity's on the planet.

They then looked around at the people who made Barcelona FC successful and made them an o££er they couldn't refuse. They call it 'the project' because that's what it is to them. A business venture, an experiment in maximising the advertising potential of their products. They couldn't care less about the core fans. They want tourists, and day trippers in Man Utd kits to come to their matches. They want people to worship false Gods, like injury prone Belgian defenders, who they build statues for??? Not for world cup heroes or Ballon d'Or winners, a statue for someone who just turned up, took the money and didn't complain!!

In the drone footage that they produced for celebrating winning the PL, they shamelessly flogged the corporate hospitality and tunnel club before showing anyone the actual PL trophy. This is who they are now. They have become the thing that they always hated. A faceless, corporate entity, built on sand. The sort of people who turn their noses up at Mancunians in the street. From the very top, to the very bottom of that club, there is not one real genuine Manchester City fan on the payroll. They are all hired hands. Pigs eating from the trough. And when they've all had their fill, they will be off for good. Only ever to return one day, slightly bemused, because some marketing dweeb in Mayfair has decided that they should have a statue made for them. "Erm...thanks guys...this is such an honour to have this pockmarked lump of metal that looks nothing like me! I will be sure to visit you all again in the next decade!"

The backlash against Guardiola today is comical. He isn't there because he loves the club, or has any sort of affinity to the fans. He's there because they pay him £18 million a season. And now that the clock is running down and he can see some light at the end of the tunnel, he's starting to let his true feelings out. He took their money, but deep down he is embarrassed by them. That is why he makes comments like he did in the interview last night. Even giving the time of the kick off on Saturday. Could you imagine any other manager saying that to their fans? He's serving out his notice, and settling a few gripes before he goes. I doubt that he will ever darken their door again. Unless they build him a statue!
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Best post on this forum I've seen yet, easily.
 
I’m pretty sure if Pep was in charge of United he’d be ejaculating in regards to how good our fans base is. It’s actually mental that they think that Manchester belongs to City. Total delusion of grandeur.
 
Pep’s sold out managing an oil club like that. You can see he’s not comfortable with what a shite club they are sometimes.
 
WeePat said:
I've been to countless PL grounds throughout the years, and the only teams whose home support I've been impressed with each time I've visited was Everton and Palace, but when all those other teams come to the Bridge, they always bring very loud supporters with them.
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When I read the sentence leading to that, I knew you'd say either Everton or Palace

I think they get it right, Palace in particular seem to have their fans very close to the pitch and it creates a much better atmosphere.

I've been to Craven Cottege once and was very disappointed because its a lovely old stadium but their fans all seem to be 82 and just there for a nap. West Ham's new one is disappointing too because the fans seem about a mile away from the pitch.
 
Wheato said:
The backtracking at Gaurdiola's press conference today will be scripted to within an inch of its life. He doesn't even need to speak, just make the noise of a truck reversing. "BEEP BEEP BEEP - CAUTION, THIS VEHICLE IS REVERSING - BEEP BEEP BEEP."
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Scratch that. Pep's says he is absolutely not apologising for his comments.

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Wheato said:
Manchester City are basically a marketing toy for Etihad Airways. The name on the shirts, the stadium, the cheesy adverts promoting Abu Dhabi based companies. That's really what it's all about. That is the owners 'skin in the game'. They mainly bought them for two reasons, one being that they were cheap to buy (and the owner was desperate to sell before he went to prison), but the main factor was that they shared a location and name with Manchester United, one of the biggest sporting entity's on the planet.

They then looked around at the people who made Barcelona FC successful and made them an o££er they couldn't refuse. They call it 'the project' because that's what it is to them. A business venture, an experiment in maximising the advertising potential of their products. They couldn't care less about the core fans. They want tourists, and day trippers in Man Utd kits to come to their matches. They want people to worship false Gods, like injury prone Belgian defenders, who they build statues for??? Not for world cup heroes or Ballon d'Or winners, a statue for someone who just turned up, took the money and didn't complain!!

In the drone footage that they produced for celebrating winning the PL, they shamelessly flogged the corporate hospitality and tunnel club before showing anyone the actual PL trophy. This is who they are now. They have become the thing that they always hated. A faceless, corporate entity, built on sand. The sort of people who turn their noses up at Mancunians in the street. From the very top, to the very bottom of that club, there is not one real genuine Manchester City fan on the payroll. They are all hired hands. Pigs eating from the trough. And when they've all had their fill, they will be off for good. Only ever to return one day, slightly bemused, because some marketing dweeb in Mayfair has decided that they should have a statue made for them. "Erm...thanks guys...this is such an honour to have this pockmarked lump of metal that looks nothing like me! I will be sure to visit you all again in the next decade!"

The backlash against Guardiola today is comical. He isn't there because he loves the club, or has any sort of affinity to the fans. He's there because they pay him £18 million a season. And now that the clock is running down and he can see some light at the end of the tunnel, he's starting to let his true feelings out. He took their money, but deep down he is embarrassed by them. That is why he makes comments like he did in the interview last night. Even giving the time of the kick off on Saturday. Could you imagine any other manager saying that to their fans? He's serving out his notice, and settling a few gripes before he goes. I doubt that he will ever darken their door again. Unless they build him a statue!
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I’ll print it and read it to my children one day
 
makcikkaulawa said:
OK. i am from asia so i do not know the geo of england etc.

So, Manchester are one big city/country?

So if Manchester are really divided by United and City, why aren't the other half supporting City? Is it because all of Manchester used to support United back in the day when City isn't relevant so 80% of Manchester is a United fan.

Or is it because of something else?

Hope my questions make sense. Thank you.
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USREDEVIL said:
I can handle this from my excellent U.S. education, particularly in geography. Manchester is a large country near England, but they speak Manc actually. Half of the country is divided by a large wall, the "great wall" which unfortunately for City separates the Country into two regions, one mainly bluish in color (mainly consisting of uninhabitable areas and country bumpkins) the other red which has a port and thriving cities and a music scene including the great "Stormzy".
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Dont listen to @USREDEVIL he is talking rubbish. The main reason for cities low attendances is due to decades and decades of inbreeding, meaning that the current generation are almost entirely made of teeth, have 6 legs and 5ft tall foreheads, added to a collective IQ lower than the average loaf of bread it makes getting to the ground incredibly difficult, so they all prefer to sit at a desk mashing a keyboard with their heads until something almost intelligible is on the screen.
 
Peps spot on, and it must hurt.

City's online fanbase doesn't even come close to representing what their fanbase actually amounts too.

They were selling tickets for the Leipzig game for cheap, and on general sale. If half the "fans" on football twitter had wanted to go to the game, they'd of been able too.

I sometimes feel sorry for the City fans who've supported them for years having to listen to the idiots who've appeared after the £££.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
Dont listen to @USREDEVIL he is talking rubbish. The main reason for cities low attendances is due to decades and decades of inbreeding, meaning that the current generation are almost entirely made of teeth, have 6 legs and 5ft tall foreheads, added to a collective IQ lower than the average loaf of bread it makes getting to the ground incredibly difficult, so they all prefer to sit at a desk mashing a keyboard with their heads until something almost intelligible is on the screen.
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OK, so now i do not know who to believe. At least @USREDEVIL logic appears sensible. Nevertheless, its just to show that the only club that matters in Manchester, is United..
 
LawCharltonBest said:
When I read the sentence leading to that, I knew you'd say either Everton or Palace

I think they get it right, Palace in particular seem to have their fans very close to the pitch and it creates a much better atmosphere.

I've been to Craven Cottege once and was very disappointed because its a lovely old stadium but their fans all seem to be 82 and just there for a nap. West Ham's new one is disappointing too because the fans seem about a mile away from the pitch.
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I've heard others say Goodisan suffers from the same issues as other clubs, but that ground has been rocking every time I've been there. West Ham fans at Upton Park were great too.

Your description of Fulham fans is just perfectly accurate :lol:
 
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Today's contentious quote from Peptic Pep:
"I don't want to be like United, Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, like Madrid or like all the big clubs. We are who we are. I like it."

Now he's saying they are a small club.
He is preparing his escape, isn't he?
 
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