As a United and Gasly fan this weekend can get f*****.
Still nice to see Lando up there with his besties.
Still nice to see Lando up there with his besties.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I don't think this is particularly fair, as I was just calling someone out for posting something contrary to the truth. However, mod has spoken, I'll drop it.
That's a really good point about Mercedes, they've made a lot of terrible calls so far this season.
YES LANDO AND GEORGE. Cracking tactics and well driven for those positions. They both deserve to be in great cars and win races, great drivers at their age.
they both took the chance to get on slicks early and it paid off
I must say, Lewis has made some errors this season at critical times which, when the dust settles, may well cost him the title.
I really don't care who-said-what; this stuff just keeps going and going with lots of posters. If we would all stop assuming posts are written because of whatever fandom and engage with contents earnestly (or ignore stuff we think is stupid), this thread would gain enormously.
I'm not a mod btw, just a lowly scout.
But @Jippy has also been commenting on this stuff.I really don't care who-said-what; this stuff just keeps going and going with lots of posters. If we would all stop assuming posts are written because of whatever fandom and engage with contents earnestly (or ignore stuff we think is stupid), this thread would gain enormously.
I'm not a mod btw, just a lowly scout.
Well mod or not its a good shout anyway, that poster in question is regularly called out for his zealotry around Verstappen, and I should have continued ignoring it. Its just difficult to wade through the anti Hamilton vitriol to get to the discussion in this thread sometimes.
Gonna say it now, if somehow Mercedes and Lewis cockup tomorrow and Max finishes ahead of Lewis the championship is done.
Let's face it most of us already think it is and that max will win the next three races (all tracks that favour the RB) and be out of sight. That RB with a good driver is the class of the field this year.
Would set up a potential incredible season next year though. If the pecking order changes. Alonso dreaming of title no3, Seb wanting title no5. Lewis wanting title no8. Max defending his title and hoping for no2. Lando, Leclerc, Russell etc all hoping it will be their first title....
Let's face it most of us already think it is and that max will win the next three races (all tracks that favour the RB) and be out of sight. That RB with a good driver is the class of the field this year.
Would set up a potential incredible season next year though. If the pecking order changes. Alonso dreaming of title no3, Seb wanting title no5. Lewis wanting title no8. Max defending his title and hoping for no2. Lando, Leclerc, Russell etc all hoping it will be their first title....
As much as I think the RB is the faster car, and as much as I think Lewis is the better driver since he’s been there done it and won it for so long, I’d be wrong if I didn’t say that Max has actually been great this year. He’s been consistent and relentless, and has not made the mistakes that Lewis unusually has this year. Max has a long way still to be put in that tier of driver that some already put him in, but he has the talent and tools to reach it. He’s got a bit to learn too but perhaps that maturity will come once he has a title. I still think this race isn’t done and it’ll be close, but Lewis will need to show some of his best racing and consistency to win it this time around. And mistakes like today whatever the circumstance will cost him.
Amen. Can’t say I haven’t engaged in my fair of bickertry but at this point I’m all for it ending. The NFL thread is a wonderful thread despite differing views and allegiances. If this thread could get to that level of quality, it’d be a huge joy as I think this thread does have knowledgable and good posters when you take the nonsense away.I really don't care who-said-what; this stuff just keeps going and going with lots of posters. If we would all stop assuming posts are written because of whatever fandom and engage with contents earnestly (or ignore stuff we think is stupid), this thread would gain enormously.
I'm not a mod btw, just a lowly scout.
Max would be making similar mistakes in the Mercedes if roles were swapped. The RB is the class of the field. Lewis is pushing like crazy to keep up with max in that RB. That's evident from the races where max and lewis disappear away from bottas.
Max can be smoother and calmer as he has the better car. Same for lewis last season when he didnt make any mistakes as last years Mercedes was the best car of the field.
What makes this season such an anomaly is that Mercedes arent pushing this years car anywhere near to the extent that lewis would probably like. Normally the development battle would carry on in a championship like this till the last race or two of the season. This year Mercedes stopped all the wind tunnel work back in april. As wind tunnel time is now limited, Mercedes using their allocation since April on next years car.
My hunch is that RB are going more all out than Mercedes to get Max the WDC. This isnt altruistic. They need to get Max a title soon otherwise he will be off to Ferrari or Mercedes in a season or two. Show him he can win titles at RB and better chance of keeping him for longer. Personally I think he will be at Ferrari at somepoint within the next 3-5 years.
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I think it's more likely long covid to be honest. Especially after his near collapse on the podium a few weeks ago. That's not the behaviour of a 30-something year old but it is a sympton of long covid.
Absolutely. The last thing most of us want is what has been a really good thread descending into Messi v Ronaldo style nonsense.
Let's see how it goes tomorrow, but we need to stop the insults, trolling and baiting.
I honestly think if he can somehow beat Max to title number 8 with 100 wins i think he might retire. I know he signed a multi year deal but still.
Dont forget that 14 days ago there was a tyre of a f1 car on his head.
I thought this, but hes a racer, he will want to see what next years car is like. Especially if overtaking is easier and therefore racing is more fun.
Besides if there was any indication of this at all they wouldnt have let bottas leave.
True. And 21 days ago he basically collapsed on the podium?
It also just makes sense to me that they would do everything to try and get the title that's within reach. No matter how hard anyone works on next year's car, with all the changes, you can never be sure how things will work out. But for this year, RB have a great chance of Verstappen winning the season. Mercedes can better afford thinking long term, as they've been winning a lot anyway.
watching the f1 and united at the same time was a weird confliction of feelings.
As a Mclaren fan though i’m absolutely buzzing. Lando has taken huge steps this year and people are finally sitting up and taking notice of just how good he is.
I really hope Mclaren can continue pushing and give him a car capable of genuinely challenging regularly next year!
Pole at Russia is risky business, he could get drafted and end up 3rd by the first corner! I hope he can get a good start and even if he comes out 2nd he’s got a decent chance, but keeping hamilton at bay isn’t going to be easy.
As a Mclaren fan though i’m absolutely buzzing. Lando has taken huge steps this year and people are finally sitting up and taking notice of just how good he is.
I really hope Mclaren can continue pushing and give him a car capable of genuinely challenging regularly next year!
Pole at Russia is risky business, he could get drafted and end up 3rd by the first corner! I hope he can get a good start and even if he comes out 2nd he’s got a decent chance, but keeping hamilton at bay isn’t going to be easy.
I was also watching football with half an eye on the qualifying and after the football I completely forgot about the F1.
Really excited about the race now. Really happy for Lando and George again making the most of any opportunity he can. Feels like Lewis has had a few rough starts recently so he’ll need to be on it tomorrow.
Also didn’t realise LeClerc was 19th. Him and Max fighting through the field should be interesting.
Is this a 2pm BST start time tomorrow?
1pm I believe.
Damn.
I think you have nailed it here, RB need to get Max that first WC win.
He is itching for it, this year I think he will get it.
I have said a few times that I think Mercedes have , not given up on the season, you dont give up with the 7 time WC driving, but like you say not pushing.
Merc strategy has been very suspect at times so far this season and normally they get it right, t.ake yesterday and going on to slicks, Lewis was in no danger, he should have come in earlier, hitting the wall did not help
The rules changes brought in did not help, Mercedes knew that the RB would be faster this season.
1 pm and family commitments means I cant watch much, I may get the last few laps in.
Families are selfish buggers aren’t they? Don’t they know there’s sport to watch all weekend
It’s always a tough choice when that happens as to whether I watch what I can or do a media blackout and watch it later when it’s repeated. In the past I’ve often gone for the channel 4 highlights as it’s sometimes nice to watch the race when it’s been compressed down a bit.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-russian-gp-grid-penalty-engine-change/6674900/amp/
Valtteri, this is James......Please change your PU for Lewis.
Wonder if Russell is in for this kind of treatment.
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Bottas is racing for nothing anyway, it’s logical and Red Bull would do the same.
Wowhttps://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-russian-gp-grid-penalty-engine-change/6674900/amp/
Valtteri, this is James......Please change your PU for Lewis.
Wonder if Russell is in for this kind of treatment.
OHH I smell tactics here, Bottas 3 in front of Max, smart by Mercedes on this track, he should be able to hold Max off, well in theory.https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-russian-gp-grid-penalty-engine-change/6674900/amp/
Valtteri, this is James......Please change your PU for Lewis.
Wonder if Russell is in for this kind of treatment.
Even if it is, its a no brainer, Bottas is not challenging for the WC , Lewis still is, its a team sport and anything they can do to help is OK in my book.
Some of you wont like it, but team orders have been in F1 for, well for ever.
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exactly
I kind of hope bottas just lets him pass, he's not known for being this super "omg i can't pass" defender, just let him pass and gets some sweet revenge.
So Max, LeClerc and Bottas fighting through the field. Should be a decent spectacle.https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-russian-gp-grid-penalty-engine-change/6674900/amp/
Valtteri, this is James......Please change your PU for Lewis.
Wonder if Russell is in for this kind of treatment.
There is no way this race is going to end without a crash
I like it a lot
DefinitelyThere is no way this race is going to end without a crash
I’m putting my money on a Mazepin special in his home race.That’s what I thoughtMazepin looking behind him and it's Max, Leclerc, bottas
Kind of crazy though when you think he’s probably used to that, just not this early in the race!Max Leclerc and Bottas will take him with ease, I do see a crash but between these 3, Bottas will be holding them off, well trying, Max will be desperate to get past.Definitely
Well we finally get to see F1 reverse grid