Champions League | Matchday 6

united_99 said:
Careful … Chelsea fans will be here in no time again reminding us of their incredibly harsh draws in the last 60+ years while at the same time reminding us that we drew Olympiacos and Sevilla in the last 16 (conveniently leaving out that we also drew RM and PSG).
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But it's true, the first part at least :lol:
 
Some high profile teams in the EL this year. Good for the competition you would say. When was the last time Barcelona were in there?
 
Pretzels81 said:
Barcelona should try to win the EL; with Ansu and Pedri back from their injuries they are easily favorites to win it.
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They are nowhere near favorite. West Ham can beat them easily. Also, all-time Europa great Sevilla will also be there. No chance for Barcelona.
 
Always funny to watch injured players make sure the camera has their "suffering" properly in sight.
 
That's that then. Can't say I ever expected us to qualify in a group with Bayern and Barça!
 
La Liga really needs a strong Barca though. I can’t see them getting back to there they were for years to come
 
Bayern didn't even play very well tonight, unsurprisingly due to injuries and quarantined players. Still can't quite believe how little Barca have to offer currently.
 
I’m going to light a candle and hope we get Lille!

We would be favorites for that one with a strong chance to make the quarter finals !
 
cyberman said:
La Liga really needs a strong Barca though. I can’t see them getting back to there they were for years to come
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Eh. Seriously, depends on their finances. If they recover quick enough, they'll be back quicker than that. De Jong-Pedri+anyone has the potential to be an awesome midfield, Ansu Fati is amazing, if he can stay fit, Araujo looks like a top CB prospect, and they actually have a lot of talent coming up through the academy right now

But more seriously, i'd rather they go bankrupt and disappear
 
giorno said:
Eh. Seriously, depends on their finances. If they recover quick enough, they'll be back quicker than that. De Jong-Pedri+anyone has the potential to be an awesome midfield, Ansu Fati is amazing, if he can stay fit, Araujo looks like a top CB prospect, and they actually have a lot of talent coming up through the academy right now

But more seriously, i'd rather they go bankrupt and disappear
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If I were a Madrid fan I’d totally agree to be fair.
I do think Barca plight is hiding behind youth and youth can blind you. There are many young players around Europe playing to a good level but very, very, very few will make a difference that they can compete v the elite sides. For Barca to have 4 or 5 of them as they lay mid table would be long odds against.
Fans tend to judge young players potential by their positive attributes rather than being even handed
 
cyberman said:
If I were a Madrid fan I’d totally agree to be fair.
I do think Barca plight is hiding behind youth and youth can blind you. There are many young players around Europe playing to a good level but very, very, very few will make a difference that they can compete v the elite sides. For Barca to have 4 or 5 of them as they lay mid table would be long odds against.
Fans tend to judge young players potential by their positive attributes rather than being even handed
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Eh, Araujo, Pedri and one of Gavi/Nico would be enough and they look fairly likely tbf, already next season possibly or the one after. They badly need to invest in the attack atm. It's not that big a task if they have the money for, say, Halaand
 
cyberman said:
I do think Barca plight is hiding behind youth and youth can blind you. There are many young players around Europe playing to a good level but very, very, very few will make a difference that they can compete v the elite sides.
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Back in the good, good old days, Barcelona were fresh off signing Cesc Fabregas, giving minutes to highly rated Thiago, and thinking the future was settled.

These guys may make the difference, maybe not for Barcelona.

giorno said:
Eh, Araujo, Pedri and one of Gavi/Nico would be enough and they look fairly likely tbf, already next season possibly or the one after. They badly need to invest in the attack atm. It's not that big a task if they have the money for, say, Halaand
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You don't think it's a little odd that after like a decade of not producing anyone particularly, Barcelona suddenly have a bunch of future star toddlers all of a similar age?

In the great Pep team there was quite a big age gap between the Xavis and the Busquets.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
You don't think it's a little odd that after like a decade of not producing anyone particularly, Barcelona suddenly have a bunch of future star toddlers all of a similar age?

In the great Pep team there was quite a big age gap between the Xavis and the Busquets.
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Araujo is 22. Pedri they signed. Those two look pretty much sure things. They need one of Gavi/Nico to come good. Not that far-fetched. With De Jong and Pedri they might not even need them to becomd that good either, just functional at the top level
 
cyberman said:
If I were a Madrid fan I’d totally agree to be fair.
I do think Barca plight is hiding behind youth and youth can blind you. There are many young players around Europe playing to a good level but very, very, very few will make a difference that they can compete v the elite sides. For Barca to have 4 or 5 of them as they lay mid table would be long odds against.
Fans tend to judge young players potential by their positive attributes rather than being even handed
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Very true. And noone hypes their youngsters as delusionally as Barca (of course they are also the quickest to forget them once they've turned out to be nothing much).

But the point about positive attributes is an important one, there's a honeymoon period for youngsters of our clubs where we fans cherish everything good they do and forgive every weakness, and it's a beautiful thing, but to make it in an elite club they do have to withstand much higher scrutiny in the long run, and only the fewest actually make it
 
What Barca needs most is a good striker.
With Depay/Ansu/Dembele/Coutinho on the wings and de Jong/Pedri/Gavi behind them they could be great going forward.
 
2 goals scored and 9 conceded from Barca in 6 matches :eek: they played in semi-final 2,5 years ago. Terrible decline but going to Europa League may be a better thing for this current Barcelona side.
 
I can't wait for Antonio to get his hands on Pique.
 
GifLord said:
Some people on here were shitting on Messi for the past 2-3 years when he was basically their only spark :lol: :lol:
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exactly, I haven’t seen a bigger drop off for any sporting team since a star player left since lebron left Cleveland in 2010
 
Lewandowski and few others I think have more goals than entire Barca team.

They literally removed all Messi's goals and replaced them with nothing.
 
Atalanta 0 Villarreal 2 (danjuma, capoue)

Danjuma is a top class player, another level.
 
Villarreal is going to be one of the weakest teams in the round of 16.
 
Feck Memphis Depay. Danjuma is the real Dutch star attacker.

Unlike Memphis he's also a nice and down to earth dude.
 
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