F1 2021 Season

Do you guys think George Russell will challenge for the title straight away ? Because that could make next year really, really more intense if that's even possible.
I think he'll adjust and settle in much quicker than some people think.
 
So you're saying, after watching the entire season, Max doesn't deserve it? Come on man get a grip, both he and Lewis have been far and above everyone else this season.

I'm literally agreeing with you it is an absolute farce, but one decision that Max has no involvement with, shouldn't change whether or not he deserves it.
No doubt Lewis and Max have been the fastest drivers this season.

But for the reasons in my post which you replied to, Max did not deserve to win over Lewis. He drove dirty and the FIA let him get away with it to create "drama". It's a farce.

What Max deserved imo is to come 2nd after some great driving this season.
 
Horner "let them race, one last lap"

Absolute joke of a comment. Yeah let them race but then do it fair then. Both on fresh tires.


I'm honestly interested in hearing Max fans opinion on that comment from Horner there. And this has nothing to do with the result or the championship, it's a straight forward question:

Do you think that was a fair "let them race" last lap showdown?
I agree entirely with this but I don't at the same time.

I really despise the fact that Max got the chance to 'race' after pretty clearly being beaten by Lewis today and coming out second best.
 
Sky F1 may as well put Horner on the Red Button at this point, just a PR mouthpiece for him for the last few years.
 
He will hit the ground running I'm certain. I don't think he's likely to be quite as nice as Hamilton is in wheel to wheel battle either, he's got a point to prove etc. We need Leclerc competitive against Max too, no quarter given.

I'm not sure if Ferrari will improve enough for Leclerc to be up there. It's more likely that Mclaren can do that with Norris.
 
I thought I’d be delighted to see Max win just because I wanted someone other than Hamilton and Mercedes to win but as it’s settled down I do think the better driver on the day by a mile lost and only because of a ridiculous decision. Leaves a bit of an empty feeling really.
 
I mean is there any real shock that certain posters that like Max aren't gracious winners?

Of course not.

I'm surprised it's not even worse tbh. I was looking forward to some right arguments!

All we are getting is some pitifully unfunny woodworms and basic bitch calls of salt. This was supposed to be my post-race entertainment :(
 

I can’t be bothered to go trawling for quotes but he has a clear beef with Hamilton being in the sport at all. The way he talks about it is questionable, to say the least. I’m not the only person to notice it, I know that much.
 
Do you guys think George Russell will challenge for the title straight away ? Because that could make next year really, really more intense if that's even possible.
I seriously hope so, he showed in his chance with Mercedes last year that he'd be capable of winning races so.
 
They hung Hamilton out to dry there. Dispicable.

If you want it to be a spectacle then let them fecking both pit.

Exactly. The last lap was most certainly not a race. It was a walk over due to circumstances.
And don't forget the weaving Verstappen was doing after he had passed Hamilton.
As you say. The so called last lap racing was not racing.
 
Horner "let them race, one last lap"

Absolute joke of a comment. Yeah let them race but then do it fair then. Both on fresh tires.

I'm honestly interested in hearing Max fans opinion on that comment from Horner there. And this has nothing to do with the result or the championship, it's a straight forward question:

Do you think that was a fair "let them race" last lap showdown?
Yes. Street rules.
 
I thought I’d be delighted to see Max win just because I wanted someone other than Hamilton and Mercedes to win but as it’s settled down I do think the better driver on the day by a mile lost and only because of a ridiculous decision. Leaves a bit of an empty feeling really.

Yeah. There's no real heart in the post match arguments either.

Even the commentators are flat, I think they all feel it too. The farce has killed it.
 
I think I read once that the Schumacher and Verstappen families used to go on holidays together back in the day.

Always made me wonder if.....you know
 
Yeah and where there's interpretation, I get that.

When the rules say what to do in these circumstances, it feels contrived because they don't want the championship to end under a flag/vsc.
Article 39.12 of sporting regs says: "If clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all teams, any cars that have been lapped by leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car."

Im not even sure the rule actually applies to this specific situation.

The message wasn’t sent to all teams and the rule doesn't say it needs to be.
 
Just put him on ignore, he's been on a wind up all year in this thread, he's rabidly anti Hamilton and is easily the most childish person in the thread.

You'll feel much better just ignoring him, you won't get any sensible discussion.
Can't ignore him. When I click his profile I don't get the option?
 
I can’t be bothered to go trawling for quotes but he has a clear beef with Hamilton being in the sport at all. The way he talks about it is questionable, to say the least. I’m not the only person to notice it, I know that much.

Riiiiiiiiiight.
 
Everything from the SC onwards has been absolute nonsense and is tarnishing the whole season. What a ridiculous way to end this season.

If Max was ahead though, even if only by an inch, then it’s a nailed on penalty isn’t it? Lewis was penalised for about 0.08mm in Brazil wasnt he ?
 
Yeah. There's no real heart in the post match arguments either.

Even the commentators are flat, I think they all feel it too. The farce has killed it.
Even the driver interviews were somewhat flat I felt. Specifically Alonso.
 
Yeah exactly, it's not Max's fault, so how's he undeserving if there's nothing he could have done there? What do you expect him to do in the last lap, slow down and let Lewis WIN the championship because he was the faster driver on the day?

Yeah, it does takeaway some merit, but that doesn't change the fact that he DESERVES the championship, 1 race IS NOT a championship, it's made up of 20+ races.
How on Earth have you got to the point you're saying that?

I'll say it as simply as I can for you. He's undeserving today because rules had to be broken for him to win. It just so happened that today also decided the championship. He's in that situation because of how good he's driven over the last 20 races or so.

But one more time, he didn't deserve to win today because rules had to be broken for him to win.

Also, honestly no point in keeping on repeating yourself with a point I said ages ago that I agree with.
 
Yeah. There's no real heart in the post match arguments either.

Even the commentators are flat, I think they all feel it too. The farce has killed it.

proper thumbed in softie vibes.
 
No doubt Lewis and Max have been the fastest drivers this season.

But for the reasons in my post which you replied to, Max did not deserve to win over Lewis. He drove dirty and the FIA let him get away with it to create "drama". It's a farce.

What Max deserved imo is to come 2nd after some great driving this season.
Sure, Lewis probably deserved it MORE, but not only one person can deserve it?

A person at their work probably deserves employee of the month, but another employee could've performed better and deserved it more.

That's your opinion anyhow.
 
Street rules isn't letting one side have a huge advantage.
Tbh I didnt have a problem because i think many people wanted a racing lap. It was the moving the other cars out of the way that was a bit dodgy. Then again there was only one lap left, because they took forever to make the decision. If it was 2-3 laps then it would've made for a grand, and fairer, finish.
 
I agree entirely with this but I don't at the same time.

I really despise the fact that Max got the chance to 'race' after pretty clearly being beaten by Lewis today and coming out second best.

True.

But it happened and he was gloating about it. That wasn't a fair shoot out, regardless of if it was even fair to have one.

That's the thing that bothers me more tbh.
 
Sure, Lewis probably deserved it MORE, but not only one person can deserve it?

A person at their work probably deserves employee of the month, but another employee could've performed better and deserved it more.

That's your opinion anyhow.
Why does Lewis deserve it more? A lot of bullshit decisions earlier in the seasons…
 
I don't like this narrative that you can't let this be overturned because it's for the title. The title just literally got decided by outside forces other than on the track :lol:

There's no moral high ground in the way Max 'won'
 
Everything from the SC onwards has been absolute nonsense and is tarnishing the whole season. What a ridiculous way to end this season.

If Max was ahead though, even if only by an inch, then it’s a nailed on penalty isn’t it? Lewis was penalised for about 0.08mm in Brazil wasnt he ?

Correct.
 
Sure, Lewis probably deserved it MORE, but not only one person can deserve it?

A person at their work probably deserves employee of the month, but another employee could've performed better and deserved it more.

That's your opinion anyhow.
I think it is obvious that both drivers were miles ahead of the field. Max deserved 2nd place. Of course that's my opinion but I'm sure many agree.
 
How on Earth have you got to the point you're saying that?

I'll say it as simply as I can for you. He's undeserving today because rules had to be broken for him to win. It just so happened that today also decided the championship. He's in that situation because of how good he's driven over the last 20 races or so.

But one more time, he didn't deserve to win today because rules had to be broken for him to win.

Also, honestly no point in keeping on repeating yourself with a point I said ages ago that I agree with.
Ok, so one race determines who is deserving for you, in which Max had no impact on. That's your decision.

And to repeat myself, I'm not talking about the race today, I'm talking about the whole championship, it's a totally different conversation.
 
Everything from the SC onwards has been absolute nonsense and is tarnishing the whole season. What a ridiculous way to end this season.

If Max was ahead though, even if only by an inch, then it’s a nailed on penalty isn’t it? Lewis was penalised for about 0.08mm in Brazil wasnt he ?
Yep. Should be.
 
Wow. What a finale.
Haven’t read through all the posts here but wasn't Max screwed out the early decision when Hamilton went off track & got ahead of Max - and so the decision to race at the last lap just evened out Max’s luck for the day?