F1 2021 Season

Let’s see what CAS decides. As far as I understand the rules it’s legal.
The judgement even quotes the rules they ignored.

They don't just say "we haven't upheld it", they actually state the rules which they should have followed then say they didn't because a Race Director has some overarching powers that mean he can ignore SC rules
 
Is it confirmed it goes to CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.
They were right not to pit under VSC - Max wasn’t catching. And they couldn’t pit under the safety car as had the rules actually been applied there was a genuine risk it would have ended under the safety car. So what did they get wrong?
 
They were right not to pit under VSC - Max wasn’t catching. And they couldn’t pit under the safety car as had the rules actually been applied there was a genuine risk it would have ended under the safety car. So what did they get wrong?
Listen to Lewis radio , he begs to disagree.
 
And you keep ignoring my question and point to you.

But yeah, you hide behind it being "legal" to change the rules at any time. Surely if you were actually a racing fan, you'd see that as farcical too? But of course not, your boy won.

I don't give a shit who won, I'm in awe of the talent of all the drivers. What I do give a shit about this is falling out of love with F1 years ago and now coming back to see it's got even more farcical. The "sport" has no integrity, no class. There's not even much real racing going on. Now we have grade-A weapons like Horner and Toto actually talking to the race director during the race, being offered deals on punishments and clearly influencing what happens. You have ridiculously complex rules that no one understands properly. And now you have blatant rule changing to suit the tv crowd and sponsors right at the end.

But yeah, apparently race fans loved that last lap. Even though it wasn't even a fair race. Go figure.

Don't waste your breathe, that user is clearly a WUM.
 
Is it confirmed it goes to CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.

Shitshow is a bit much. Even the Red Bull dude over the radio thought it was over until the race director decided "next goal is the winner".

The tactics worked fine until Red Bull dude got the "miracle" he said they needed.
 
Because it was obvious that it wouldn’t be cleaned up in time to get all lapped cars through and then another lap before the SC comes in, as per the rules.

No it wasn't. Latifi's car was up in the air and being taken off the track a good 20sec before the SC passed on its first lap (55/58), halfway through lap 56 the call came to not let the lapped cars overtake which was the first of all the weird decisions they made. If they had instead made the call to send the lapped cars through at that time then the SC would still have come in after lap 57 and we would've had the exact same ending, and it would've all been by the book.
 
Spa gifted points to everyone and robbed points from everyone. Max would have won the title finishing second today had Spa gone ahead and he won there from pole.

Also, Baku, Silverstone, Hungary.
Just putting into context that it’s a reoccurrence through the season. Max was gifted +3.5 points more than lewis. They knew the race wouldn’t go ahead and wanted to gift him them.
 
I don’t think Mercedes got any tactics wrong at all, they were on course for one of their most comfortable wins of the season. What happened was just bad luck and some bizarre decision making by Masi
 
Article 15.3
The Race Director shall have overriding authority in the following matters and the clerk of the course may give orders in respect of them only with his express agreement:
a) The control of practice and the race, adherence to the timetable and, if he deems it necessary, the making of any proposal to the stewards to modify the timetable in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
b) The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
c) The stopping of practice or suspension of the race in accordance with the Sporting Regulations if he deems it unsafe to continue and ensuring that the correct restart procedure is carried out.
d) The starting procedure.
e) The use of the safety car.


This rule will probably mean any Merc appeals are batted away both internally and at CAS.
 
Surely there's no more Lewis can do in F1 now?

He's better going off to Formula E and making that sport bigger with cleaner cars.
 
Shitshow is a bit much. Even the Red Bull dude over the radio thought it was over until the race director decided "next goal is the winner".

The tactics worked fine until Red Bull dude got the "miracle" he said they needed.
Yep, the Lewis fans must have gone "oh no" when the shot of the crashed car came up - it was plain sailing without a crash.
 
Why are people criticising Merc’s tactics? I thought at the time that they should’ve brought Lewis in under the VSC, but they were proven right in their decision not to, they were 10s clear before the safety car and on their way to winning the race.

Even if they’d pitted under the VSC, max would’ve had fresh soft tyres attacking worn hard tyres. Lewis was a sitting duck as soon as the decision was made by Masi.
 
Just putting into context that it’s a reoccurrence through the season. Max was gifted +3.5 points more than lewis. They knew the race wouldn’t go ahead and wanted to gift him them.

Max was robbed of 50 points at Baku and Silverstone... Lewis was gifted points at Imola and Silverstone.

This is endless.
 
Article 15.3
The Race Director shall have overriding authority in the following matters and the clerk of the course may give orders in respect of them only with his express agreement:
a) The control of practice and the race, adherence to the timetable and, if he deems it necessary, the making of any proposal to the stewards to modify the timetable in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
b) The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
c) The stopping of practice or suspension of the race in accordance with the Sporting Regulations if he deems it unsafe to continue and ensuring that the correct restart procedure is carried out.
d) The starting procedure.
e) The use of the safety car.


This rule will probably mean any Merc appeals are batted away both internally and at CAS.
Its seems Merc didn't actually read all rules then.
 
:lol: :lol: :lol: What a crock of shit. If he had "luck" this title would have been over two races ago.

Listening to Toto whinge like a bitch on that last lap :lol::lol::lol: "its not fair" get to feck you clown

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You okay bro?

Muppets on here are out all of a sudden!
 
Insane end to the season, a pity it had to end like that. I support Verstappen more than Hamilton, but it feels a bit shit that he loses it because of another driver crashing out of nothing. That’s the beauty of the sport though, it’s a factor that makes every race kind of interesting - and to be fair, the only way it can be interesting to the masses around the world. Obviously Hamilton deserved to win today and also the Championship as a consequence, but Verstappen finished first and thus deserved it too. This was just today, remember when Verstappen punctured from a win and finished with zero points, that's also equally unlucky. Shit, Latifi will never drive for Mercedes that much is sure - you couldn't really make this up in advance, exceptional drama.

As for all the crying Hamilton-fans above me in this thread, jesus christ get a grip, stop pretending you know the rules better than the stewards. It probably would have been the other way around if Mercedes won and Red Bull-fans were at it, but again stop pretending people like Horner is bending the rules better than Toto Wolff. The latter is basically the Darth Vader in this sport, he has the political power of Putin when it comes to interfering the judges. Next year I hope the principals are not allowed to talk to the race director during the race, it's pathetic and screams of special treatment. I am glad the silly protests didn't lead them anywhere.

Two thoughts came to my head during the race; I was "sure" Perez was going to somehow strike Hamilton when he defended his brief lead, that would have cleared Verstappen and so on. Also, what is Bottas suddenly crashes out or makes a huge mistake on the last lap causing another, immediate Safety car? Maybe he would have taken one for the team if he was still driving there next season...
 
These people enjoy the WWE style drama. Would've been funny seeing their reactions if it benefited Hamilton today.
Whilst you and others would have a completely different viewpoint if the roles were reversed lets be completely honest.
 
Is it confirmed it goes to CAS? I reckon Lewis might actually not want that. Otherwise nice deflection from merc for the absolute shitshow of tactics tonight.
I think that it needs to go to CAS if the fact that the race director can make the rules up as they go then you can't continue this as a sport. That needs to be challenged if nothing else.
 
Whilst you and others would have a completely different viewpoint if the roles were reveresed lets be completely honest.
I'm a motor racing fan first and foremost. I cheer on the British drivers but I would've been angry today regardless of who win. A world championship should not be decided like that.
 
Max was robbed of 50 points at Baku and Silverstone... Lewis was gifted points at Imola and Silverstone.

This is endless.
You are probably right but it’s the fact it’s the last race and we haven’t got F1 for a few months :lol: It’s like City winning it in stoppage time:rolleyes:
 
This is no sport what a dreadful advert for it :lol:

Even more embarrassing the people that can't put feeling aside and will just jump to defend their favourite this just shows the current mentality of the world as a whole no logic or reason applied.