F1 2021 Season

Everybody not following Lewis disagree's with this.

It's Damon 94 all over again :lol: :lol:

Salty english fans and everybody else lapping it up
I’m not English and never really been a fan of Hamilton. That ending made a mockery of the sport.
 
One thing that I do think is important to note.. A hell of a lot of people were thinking Max would drive like a twat today and deliberately hit Lewis. He didn’t. And he had the chance on lap 1.

Max drove well and has driven well for the entire season (apart from the stupid moments he’s had). But fair play to him. He’s made it a very exciting season and this won’t be his only WC.

It was always going to be the case. Same for Perez and Bottas.

Bottas could have cleaned Max out at Saudi Arabia when he fecked the restart but he bailed out instead and lost a load of places.
 
The sport is being damaged by the FIA. Overruling would bring a little more credibility to the sport and hopefully overhaul Masi and Co.

The appeal should go to the top.
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Absolute joke of a circus.

Hamilton should have won that. I am still astonished hours on how they dealt with it.

People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.
he wont, he is the World Champion
 
One thing that I do think is important to note.. A hell of a lot of people were thinking Max would drive like a twat today and deliberately hit Lewis. He didn’t. And he had the chance on lap 1.

Max drove well and has driven well for the entire season (apart from the stupid moments he’s had). But fair play to him. He’s made it a very exciting season and this won’t be his only WC.

it’s been a good result for him. i really didn’t want him before today with his sound bites and hypocrisy but circumstances have mellowed me. not his fault it ended how it did. someone just decided he should get the chance to win it that his performances deserved this year.
 
they shouldn’t be allowed to take it to a court of sport. the fia have clearly stated that the rules can be made up by the director on the fly and the teams just have to put up with it. that’s not a sport: i’m not a conspiracy nut but as a result, a race director with an agenda can manufacture a result.
That holds true for basically every official in every sport.
 
sorry but WWE has never been a sport. It is manufactured tripe.

F1 literally has a "Constructors Championship" title for the manufacturers. It's not tripe but it's certainly "manufactured".

I was joking about WWE but F1 is not and has never been a sport. It's a fascinating engineering contest with some wonky rules. It's closer to Robot Wars than it is to the 400meter dash.
 
they shouldn’t be allowed to take it to a court of sport. the fia have clearly stated that the rules can be made up by the director on the fly and the teams just have to put up with it. that’s not a sport: i’m not a conspiracy nut but as a result, a race director with an agenda can manufacture a result.
what agenda did he have?
 
That holds true for basically every official in every sport.

not really. what happened today is akin to the ref deciding what is a goal and what isn’t a goal, despite having a clear rule set laid out in the rules.
 
If it's open to interpretation it wont go anywhere.

I agree. But it's not black and white.

Besides, we all know Merc won't push overly hard. They'll be after leeway for the next few seasons and the rule changes. It's F1, they don't actually give a shit about rules being changed and the driver championship, they want to know what they'll get to help stay on top and not push this further.

Toto isn't a pussy, he's a c***.
 
Article 15.3
The Race Director shall have overriding authority in the following matters and the clerk of the course may give orders in respect of them only with his express agreement:
a) The control of practice and the race, adherence to the timetable and, if he deems it necessary, the making of any proposal to the stewards to modify the timetable in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
b) The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
c) The stopping of practice or suspension of the race in accordance with the Sporting Regulations if he deems it unsafe to continue and ensuring that the correct restart procedure is carried out.
d) The starting procedure.
e) The use of the safety car.


This rule will probably mean any Merc appeals are batted away both internally and at CAS.

That is that then. No way CAS overrules that.

But in my view, that merely means when the safety car should be used and not how it should be used. But I agree with others, it is frustratingly vague. Hopefully we see clearer rules in the future.
 
F1 literally has a "Constructors Championship" title for the manufacturers. It's not tripe but it's certainly "manufactured".

I was joking about WWE but F1 is not and has never been a sport. It's a fascinating engineering contest with some wonky rules. It's closer to Robot Wars than it is to the 400meter dash.
cant disagree with that
 
what agenda did he have?

i’m not saying he had one. the fia have made it clear that the race director has authority to ignore certain rules if they want to. that means a bad race director, say a race director that has had most people moaning at him all year, can contrive a result as they seem fit, with maybe what brings the best stories or the highest social media engagement in mind.
 
That is that then. No way CAS overrules that.

But in my view, that merely means when the safety car should be used and not how it should be used. But I agree with others, it is frustratingly vague. Hopefully we see clearer rules in the future.
I doubt it. Look what this has done. Its like Sepp Blatter not wanting tech so that everyone is talking about the decisions.
 
C'mon Lewis, announce Formula E! This is probably as good a time to make the change as ever!
 
What a mess that was.

Forget who won, that race had more attention on it than any in about 20 years and for it to be decided by a farcical race director/steward decision... that's probably turned off 90% of the potential new fans they had in the making.

There is no way Michael Masi can continue in his position next season.

This is definitive of myself. Gave F1 a try, I really enjoy cars generally but watching so many laps can be slightly boring imo. Boxing, Football and NBA in no particular order.

It is a shame though irrespective of who won it would have been far more proficient if it was on the terms of racing solely.
 
it’s been a good result for him. i really didn’t want him before today with his sound bites and hypocrisy but circumstances have mellowed me. not his fault it ended how it did. someone just decided he should get the chance to win it that his performances deserved this year.

completely agree
 
Agreed but I also don't think a title should be determined by one race like Silverstone when one driver takes out another and the penalty received has no bearing and gains 25 points over his rival as a result.

There has been many bad calls throughout this season, including Lewis not being punished today. Bottais held up Max when Lewis was pitting last week, totally ignored by everyone, Hamilton pushed Verstappen off last week again no penalty.

Both drivers have benefited from poor decisions this season if people judge it objectively IMHO.
There will always be opinions in any sport and I’d quite happily say I have a differing opinion on silverstone but it’s irrelevant. Season is over, one of them was going to win and whoever it was deserves it because it’s been a pretty great season with every kind of drama you could think of.
 
Whilst you and others would have a completely different viewpoint if the roles were reversed lets be completely honest.
To be completely honest I would not want any championship to be decided on the whim of the racing director fixing it and creating a "miracle" in the final laps. For any team/driver.
 
not really. what happened today is akin to the ref deciding what is a goal and what isn’t a goal, despite having a clear rule set laid out in the rules.
What I am saying is that in any officiated sport the referees can change the result in case they wish to. So that does not make it different than other sports.
 
What I am saying is that in any officiated sport the referees can change the result in case they wish to. So that does not make it different than other sports.
No, refs don't have overarching power over rules. They may apply them wrong or make mistakes, but they're not paid go against them because he feels like it
 
What I am saying is that in any officiated sport the referees can change the result in case they wish to. So that does not make it different than other sports.

its not the same. it’s the same as the ref deciding a striker can pick the ball up and throw it into the goal if it means there’s more riding on the super sunday relegation 6 pointer next week. it’s shit and whether or not it meant your man won or not you should be concerned by it. it’s not good for anyone who watches it as a sport rather than a soap opera.
 
So at the end of the day today..

- Red Bull drove a perfectly fair race, unlike what many feared..
- Lewis drove a perfect race individually
- Lewis was badly unlucky, Max was very lucky
- Red Bull was quick and decicive in their strategy, Mercedes wasnt
- FIA/Stewards made arguable decisions (dont they always?)

In todays race Max definetely was the luckier one, in other races it has been the other way around.. In the end over the whole season for both can be argued they deserve it...They were both miles above all the others for the whole season.

The best part of the whole race for me was the battle between Checo and Lewis, awesome racing from both!
 
F1 literally has a "Constructors Championship" title for the manufacturers. It's not tripe but it's certainly "manufactured".

I was joking about WWE but F1 is not and has never been a sport. It's a fascinating engineering contest with some wonky rules. It's closer to Robot Wars than it is to the 400meter dash.
Because they construct the cars. In that sense they are a manufacturer maybe. But its clutching at straws. F1 was a serious sport until Masi got involved. :lol:
 
To be completely honest I would not want any championship to be decided on the whim of the racing director fixing it and creating a "miracle" in the final laps. For any team/driver.

This.

The people making this about Max vs Lewis are all the same, no matter where they are from. Just doing what they are supposed to, generating clicks and talk about that race and F1.

What it's really about, or should be, is a so-called "sport" that allows someone to change rules on the spot to suit the revenue stream. A "sport" where the team principles/managers are always in the ear of the referee. A "Sport" where not even the actual drivers don't fully know the rules as they not only change so frequently, but they have zero clarity on anything.

A "sport" where when in found to breach rules, the team principle is asked if they think the punishment is fecking fair :lol: