I think there are people, especially amongst those who spend a frequent amount of time online, for whom the pandemic and interpreting data and information produced has become a way of life. There's a Reddit sub which I've visited since early in the pandemic which provides a lot of useful information (rather than just opinion) and some people on there appear (in the sense that they understand data etc.) to have become semi-expert on what's going on and they're on there constantly. There's someone who produces extremely complex graphs from the daily data, every day to the extent that when he wasn't on for a day or two people were worried about him. When it's over they'll have to go back to whatever they did to fill their time before, I suppose.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I think there are people, especially amongst those who spend a frequent amount of time online, for whom the pandemic and interpreting data and information produced has become a way of life. There's a Reddit sub which I've visited since early in the pandemic which provides a lot of useful information (rather than just opinion) and some people on there appear (in the sense that they understand data etc.) to have become semi-expert on what's going on and they're on there constantly. There's someone who produces extremely complex graphs from the daily data, every day to the extent that when he wasn't on for a day or two people were worried about him. When it's over they'll have to go back to whatever they did to fill their time before, I suppose.
Can we send it back to Amazon after Christmas if we don't like it?
Any insight from the caf in terms of pregnant women getting a booster? My wife has had two jabs, but question whether she should have a booster whilst pregnant.
The initial commentary last year was that pregnant women shouldn't get vaxxed, but that seems to have changed.
The initial commentary last year was that pregnant women shouldn't get vaxxed, but that seems to have changed.
Thanks @Penna finally managed to get through on a laptop, but damn was it infuriating. I must have been trying for over 2 hours, constantly getting kicked back to the start of the data entry process.
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That makes sense. The last sentence is quite concerning too, especially as Covid has generally been hitting us a lot harder in Ireland than the UK recently
Not really. Our specialty is case numbers accelerating from a low starting point very quickly. But our cases per 100k have always been less than the UK.
As well as fewer cases each case is less likely to end up in a death.
In theory, we should be better placed than most European countries to cope with the omicron wave. Youngish average age and a highly vaccinated population. But our relatively low ICU beds per capita means we’re bound to be amongst the most cautious again.
I don't know if this helps you, but:
If you are an EU resident or citizen, you can use the EU Digital Covid Certificate (EU-DCC) to provide proof of your test result. This can be in either digital or paper format.
If you are not an EU resident or citizen, you cannot use the EU-DCC to provide proof of your test result.
My wife has had the two jabs but was advised by her mid-wife to wait until she's 16wks to have the booster (about 3wks away). How far along is she?
For being a cynical oldie I'm still so gullible. That's just the format of replies on trust pilot for the one star reviews of government sponsored, sorry back handed, PCR testing facility Collinson. I was wondering how 'Mya' was replying to so many cases per day.
I was feeling so optimistic reading your post until the last bit!
Glad you got sorted. I had the same problem this year when I was trying to book in Italy, it kept telling me I wasn't eligible for an over-60s booking when I was actually 62. The delete history thing helped me, so that's always an option!
Only 9 weeks. NHS simply says ok for pregnant women. My wife contracted her GP who simply said “refer to NHS guidance”
Weird your wife was told that by her midwife when per the tweet @jojojo posted from Royal College of Midwives, it urges all pregnant women to get it.
Hate these mixed messages people get as you don’t know what to do for the best sometimes.
The queues at St Pancras for tests to leave UK are crazy long.
People literally queue for hours prior to catching their train..... makes me happy to stay home.
People literally queue for hours prior to catching their train..... makes me happy to stay home.
Sorry!
On the plus side, this omicron thing spreads so quickly we’re getting loads of data extremely fast. So hopefully the NPHET gang will have the stones to take a few more risks after chewing through all the data coming out of South Africa and the UK.
Yeah it has to conducted at a lab.
I've probably spent more on tests than I did on the tickets but serves me right for not buying the insurance...
Ah well...
So from reading Twitter and various sources the medium age in Jo’berg is 27!! (So low). Based on this alone it’s easy to see why the UK are being so cautious. The percentage of over 65s is 4 percent also.
You’d think some of the modellers are running some finger in the air hypothesis like if this virus is X5 less deadly but spreads twice as fast what’s the number of hospitalisations.
It’s right to have some caution surely and with the uptake of boosters from the over 50s being especially good the fear is the overall pressure on the NHS which everyone kind of anticipated this winter anyway.
Nevertheless it’s a good way to get people boosted, similar to how world governments reduced the public’s need for masks when they were in short supply, neither a bad thing though.
You’d think some of the modellers are running some finger in the air hypothesis like if this virus is X5 less deadly but spreads twice as fast what’s the number of hospitalisations.
It’s right to have some caution surely and with the uptake of boosters from the over 50s being especially good the fear is the overall pressure on the NHS which everyone kind of anticipated this winter anyway.
Nevertheless it’s a good way to get people boosted, similar to how world governments reduced the public’s need for masks when they were in short supply, neither a bad thing though.
Does anyone know when under 20s can book their boosters in? I assumed from yesterday's messaging that it would be immediate, but looks like it's still just over 30s.
Later this week, the system is already overloaded and they've got big queues now. The walk-ins should all be getting their updated eligibility guidance today though and hopefully we'll see things like vaccine busses, shopping centre popup sites etc make a come back in the next few days.
UK has had at least one omicron death now.
Sadly it was only a matter of time. Seems like we're in for a bumpy ride now for a bit.
Got it, thanks.
Interestingly the advice we got was from a previous scan about a month ago. We have our 12 week scan tomorrow morning and so I'm going to ask again about it to see if it has changed at all.
To be fair, they would say that given that they’re trying to roll out the boosters. A bit like when they were saying that there was little evidence that face masks offer any help early in the pandemic, when they had a shortage of them for health and care workers.
Had my PCR this morning so fingers crossed.
I used to work for Verifly. It’s handy
No chance and the man on the street knows that’s made up
We don't know whether it means anything really. If it's someone who died "with the virus" in a car crash that's different to someone dying of it. They won't be able to tell us much about the person themself either, without the permission of the family, as it will potentially identify an individual.
It's all still, "we won't really know enough for another week or two," nothing's going to change that.
Yes, and even someone dying “of it” doesn’t mean that it’s not milder.
What’s the craic with testing in the UK anyway? Presumably if you need a PCR you get a professional to take the sample?
An update from the Christmas party mass infection in Norway.
- a total of 145 people was infected after the Christmas party at 26. of november.
- they are all double vaccinated, and in the age group 30-50
- most of them are back to normal again, and no one has been hospitalised
- most of them had symptoms like runny nose, sore throat, or a cough, a few had flu-like symptoms.
- about half of them had a fever
- none of them had breathing difficulties
Link (in norwegian)
- a total of 145 people was infected after the Christmas party at 26. of november.
- they are all double vaccinated, and in the age group 30-50
- most of them are back to normal again, and no one has been hospitalised
- most of them had symptoms like runny nose, sore throat, or a cough, a few had flu-like symptoms.
- about half of them had a fever
- none of them had breathing difficulties
Link (in norwegian)
No, not completely so. You can get sampling kits sent to your house which you then send back for analysis. Not the best solution IMO.
Reports are out now that the Dept for Health have corrected the PMs pre-recorded message by saying that the PM meant to say that all over-18s would be OFFERED the booster, not GIVEN the booster!
Now I must have just listened wrong because I heard Boris talk about how the NHS was going to have to make more sacrifices to do more jabs than ever before - did I magically hear 'given' whenever he actually said 'offered'?
Now I must have just listened wrong because I heard Boris talk about how the NHS was going to have to make more sacrifices to do more jabs than ever before - did I magically hear 'given' whenever he actually said 'offered'?
Yep. For the elderly and frail even the classic common cold can be a killer. It really is a matter of - we won't know until we actually have enough cases and enough recoveries to put real numbers on it. But if we do wait for that hard evidence before upping the booster program we'll have missed the one trick that could save thousands of people and tens of thousands of hospitalisations that doesn't involve serious restrictions on all our lives starting now.
Narrow window to do something, and minimal downside if we didn't need to do it so quickly.
I read an interesting paper a while back about an outbreak of one of the ‘original’ coronaviruses (i.e. that have been in circulation for decades) in a residential care home that had a fairly significant mortality.
Because PCR tests are much more accurate than LFTs. If someone has symptoms they should really cut to the chase and get a PCR, without fannying around with LFTs (that are only useful for screening asymptomatic people that want some reassurance before visiting the vulnerable)
LFT's are just for home, school or work use as a first measure. If your LFT comes up positive then you need to get a PCR test to confirm.
Yeah, I did that thing idiots do of sharing a tweet without reading the link. Thought those might be home tests to be sent off for a PCR. Which would be a bit nuts.
So.... Is Omicron milder then or not? I assume we still don't know with certainty right?