So, just had a brain wave. It seems so basic but I must be missing something. Instead of allowing lapped cars to overtake and go round, can’t they just simulate that by asking them to fall back down the queue instead? Would this not just make everything so much more simpler?
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Don't think this is bold but I think Lewis will dominate next season and we'll see Merc 1 2 in the drivers championship.
Well the problem here is the cars doing less laps and possible fuel issues.
But then Hamilton got to unlap himself in Imola without driving an inch, under red flags they have no problem with cars unlapping without actually unlapping.
If you're curious about some of the more technical aspects explained in digestible ways, I would definitely recommend Chainbear on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/chainbearf1/videos
Many of his older videos fall into the category of beginners' guides - for instance:
I did think of the fuel thing, but that’s just to their disadvantage? Heavier fuel means slower cars. Not like you can change up fuel injection mid race anymore.
I don't know if this got lost or is just considered very uninteresting - but I would still be curious to know why it may be that the four youngest champions ever are all from this century, if anyone has any ideas.
I don't know if this got lost or is just considered very uninteresting - but I would still be curious to know why it may be that the four youngest champions ever are all from this century, if anyone has any ideas.
I think because Lewis/Vettel era they came to F1 at very young age compare to 90s.
Prost began his F1 career at 25 yo, Senna at 24, Schumi at 22, Mika at 23, if they come at this decade, they would be consider late if not old.
Even Max was fast tracked at the age 17/18.
Really hoping for a proper shake up of the order. I'm hoping McLaren can push for that top team spot, as Ric and Norris are a great combination. Then any of the others except for Red Bull, as the last few months have really put me off them as a team. Ideally we have new teams starting off the strongest, and Mercedes playing catch up as the season progresses.
Best case we have 3-4 teams who are all in with a shot to really make it interesting. Though odds are we get a one team show again
Best case we have 3-4 teams who are all in with a shot to really make it interesting. Though odds are we get a one team show again
max has dominated for too long in what i’m led to believe is a far inferior car. what can be done to stop him running away with the next 30 championships?
Tractor tyre's
I think it’ll be the same contenders - looks like they’re faster than anticipated.
Nothing to worry about mate, just like this season, if Mercedes can't win it fairly they will just put in a rocket engine like they did in Brazil and create 10% more raw straight line speed than any other car out there on the grid. They won the contstructor's championship anyway, so that's another 30+ million budget advantage for another year. After which people like you can come in here and gloat about how it's all down to Lewis' pure individual racing skill
I wondered if someone on this thread could help me...
I am planning to book a couple of tickets to a Grand Prix next year for me and my fiance as a Christmas surprise (she loves the F1)
We have watched all of the races on TV together for years but have never actually been. I wondered if anybody could recommend a good race day experience?
I would rule out Silverstone, as I'd like a little mini-break outside the UK. I would also, if possible, like recommendations for European races, since getting further afield will be tricky next year as we are due to get married in June in Italy and getting Annual Leave to go to Asia/Australasia or the Americas will be tricky!
Any advice would be much appreciated! I'd also appreciate advice on what tickets it's worth booking? Like if someone has experience of actually going and has had a particularly good/bad experience?
Thanks in advance, appreciate this might not exactly be what this thread is for but hoping you all might be racegoers!
I am planning to book a couple of tickets to a Grand Prix next year for me and my fiance as a Christmas surprise (she loves the F1)
We have watched all of the races on TV together for years but have never actually been. I wondered if anybody could recommend a good race day experience?
I would rule out Silverstone, as I'd like a little mini-break outside the UK. I would also, if possible, like recommendations for European races, since getting further afield will be tricky next year as we are due to get married in June in Italy and getting Annual Leave to go to Asia/Australasia or the Americas will be tricky!
Any advice would be much appreciated! I'd also appreciate advice on what tickets it's worth booking? Like if someone has experience of actually going and has had a particularly good/bad experience?
Thanks in advance, appreciate this might not exactly be what this thread is for but hoping you all might be racegoers!
I haven't been myself, but by all accounts Monza is an incredible weekend.
The only one I've done was Singapore, which was brilliant but as you say, a bit far afield for you guys this year!
Hungary is a good one. The ticket prices are usually pretty cheap compared to other races and it's only about 10 miles outside of Budapest. I've never actually been to this one but its nearly always the one that gets recommended to me, I've only ever been to Silverstone.
I can't speak for Hungary but with Silverstone, everything there is really expensive. I'd recommend taking your own food etc. Grandstand tickets are, on the whole, a waste of money in my opinion. At Silverstone you can get tickets that allow you to walk around the edge and pick different spots (this is great for practice sessions). I'm assuming you can get this at other tracks but, again, I've never been to one other than Silverstone.
Cheers @diarm and @STaphouse - both good suggestions I'll take a look, see if the dates work
I priced up the weekend 3 years go and the cost was mental, fpr me and my 2 sons, it worked out with race tickets , parking, food, drink and hotel it was the thick end of 3 grand !!!!
No way could I justify paying that amount.
Spa is a good one I have read, plenty of options to get there cheap.
Spa is the one you want
Spa or Monza are my dream ones. I really like the look of the atmosphere at the Mexican GP too, and a decent excuse for a holiday there. I have the opportunity to buy discounted tickets to Paul Ricard this year through work, but unsure if I can go yet. Not the best track by any stretch of the imagination but I still haven't been to an actual race after years of watching so I'll take what I can get. TBF I definitely would have went in recent years if not for Covid!
Yeah it is mental. Luckily I only live 45 minutes away so could do away with the hotel.
I really want to do a European race though, they seem much more affordable and doubles as a weekend break somewhere nice.
Following on from DRS being mention in the 2021 thread.
Looks like 2022 could be the last year we see it, the new cars should make it obsolete.
https://www.racefans.net/2021/11/14...edium-term-if-2022-regulations-succeed-seidl/
Looks like 2022 could be the last year we see it, the new cars should make it obsolete.
https://www.racefans.net/2021/11/14...edium-term-if-2022-regulations-succeed-seidl/
I looked at Spa, have you been? Any recommendations on which tickets if we chose that one? Seemed like loads of options and it's pretty difficult to choose if you've never been!
A European Race is a must, always wanted to do Monaco, but the cost is more then Silverstone !
I would say Spa is you best bet.
Sadly no, pretty sure there is a couple who have been in this thread.
Has anyone here been to Imola? Been looking at the provisional calendar and that's best for me timing-wise. Curious if anyone has any feedback!
Thanks! But that's kinda the obvious part - or at least, of they become champions young, they're likely to have started young as well. So I'm curious how come they're getting into F1 younger.
Just better youth support series. It's the same with any sports now, football also. Players used to start arriving at the best clubs in their mid 20's, now it's 17/18/19.
Red Bull, Mercedes, Alpine, Mclaren, Ferrari all have their own young driver programmes looking for the best young talent in the world.
Thanks for explaining!
What, 2 days after the race?! No rest for the wickedFormula 1's managing director of motorsport Ross Brawn is in favour of barring team bosses from communicating directly with FIA race director Michael Masi during Grands Prix in 2022.
This year's tumultuous season featured several instances when which Red Bull and Mercedes team bosses intervened over the airwaves to appeal to Masi regarding a specific event or incident.
Last weekend's dramatic showdown in Abu Dhabi was marked by several in-race radio messages to race control from the two teams' pitwall.
The first corner tussle between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen triggered several communication queries from Red Bull's Jonathan Wheatley and Mercedes sporting boss Ron Meadows, with both teams arguing a case in favour of their respective driver.
Later in the race, Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff implored Masi not to deploy the safety car when Antonio Giovinazzi's Alfa Romeo was stranded on the side of the track.
But the chatter and two-way conversations ramped up during the race's late safety car period when confusion emerged over the fate of the lapped cars positioned between Hamilton and Verstappen.
Horner questioned the already under-pressure Masi about why the cars were not waved through as the rules allow, while Wolff, as the action was undertaken, lost his cool and lambasted the race director, yelling "Michael! No, Michael! No! No, Michael! That was so not right!"
Speaking to German publication, Auto Motor und Sport, Brawn said that Horner and Wolff's interventions were unacceptable.
"It is not acceptable that the team bosses put Michael under such pressure during the race," Brawn said.
"Toto Wolff cannot demand that a safety car should not come, and Christian Horner cannot demand that the cars have to lap back.
"That is at the discretion of the race director. We will stop this contact next year."
Brawn equated the interferences to "a football coach negotiating with the referee".
The F1 chief saluted Masi's call to release the field for one final lap, but lamented Mercedes' post-race protests.
"The decision in the last lap is a highlight that can't be topped," added Brawn.
"Unfortunately, the protest takes the shine from the finale a bit."
https://f1i.com/news/428895-formula...iRnLEJDz9RZN5P7yOedzEZhSTWrFpTLiPyq8uHSDj9nm4
This year's tumultuous season featured several instances when which Red Bull and Mercedes team bosses intervened over the airwaves to appeal to Masi regarding a specific event or incident.
Last weekend's dramatic showdown in Abu Dhabi was marked by several in-race radio messages to race control from the two teams' pitwall.
The first corner tussle between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen triggered several communication queries from Red Bull's Jonathan Wheatley and Mercedes sporting boss Ron Meadows, with both teams arguing a case in favour of their respective driver.
Later in the race, Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff implored Masi not to deploy the safety car when Antonio Giovinazzi's Alfa Romeo was stranded on the side of the track.
But the chatter and two-way conversations ramped up during the race's late safety car period when confusion emerged over the fate of the lapped cars positioned between Hamilton and Verstappen.
Horner questioned the already under-pressure Masi about why the cars were not waved through as the rules allow, while Wolff, as the action was undertaken, lost his cool and lambasted the race director, yelling "Michael! No, Michael! No! No, Michael! That was so not right!"
Speaking to German publication, Auto Motor und Sport, Brawn said that Horner and Wolff's interventions were unacceptable.
"It is not acceptable that the team bosses put Michael under such pressure during the race," Brawn said.
"Toto Wolff cannot demand that a safety car should not come, and Christian Horner cannot demand that the cars have to lap back.
"That is at the discretion of the race director. We will stop this contact next year."
Brawn equated the interferences to "a football coach negotiating with the referee".
The F1 chief saluted Masi's call to release the field for one final lap, but lamented Mercedes' post-race protests.
"The decision in the last lap is a highlight that can't be topped," added Brawn.
"Unfortunately, the protest takes the shine from the finale a bit."
https://f1i.com/news/428895-formula...iRnLEJDz9RZN5P7yOedzEZhSTWrFpTLiPyq8uHSDj9nm4
Good stuff. No more crowding the ref.
Even more important if the race director is a new guy.
Even more important if the race director is a new guy.
Looks like Masi is safe. Feck sake.
All about the ratings - feck the rules.
Because most drivers are already signed to the various Academies since their karting days and don't need to spend years hoping to get discovered.
Cheers - yeah, @Adam-Utd also told me that in the meantime.
Never understood.why didn't had one way conversation already established. Great change.
For anybody who is interested more on post season testing and how 18" is looking (on old cars), a great video here:
Might have been overlooked during the weekend, but Ross Brawn is expected to leave his role next year.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ross-brawn-symonds-set-to-quit-f1-role-6874701/6874701/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ross-brawn-symonds-set-to-quit-f1-role-6874701/6874701/