Where I live anyway, businesses shut down before the govt announced anything.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Haven’t doom posted in here for ages. Oh well. Here goes.
This is… a bit of a worry?
This is… a bit of a worry?
Does the article break it down into age groups? And as a layman I'm not even sure what it's telling me. Something about the heart.
What happened to the mutation of Omicron that was being reported in some countries last week? Nothing to worry about or too early to tell?
The graph on the right has various bad cardiac outcomes and whether having covid increases your risk of experiencing them, one year later. Dotted line means no increased risk. The further to the right of that the higher the risk. Green = “mild” covid. Orange = hospitalised. Purple = ICU.
Last I heard it was potentially more transmissible (based on Danish data I think) but no more harmful (although we may not have enough data to know yet).
So non-hospitalised (green) had a significantly raised risk, hospitalised (orange) had a much bigger increased risk and ICU admitted (purple) had a massively increased risk? Am I reading that right?
Basically, yes. The big caveat is they collected all their data from a US army veterans healthcare database, so the average age was mid 60s.
I get it now, thanks. Amazing how many people didn't/don't want the vaccine and would rather 'ride it out'.
As you know my wife, and specially teenage daughter, got unhospitalised long covid off the alpha variant. Both are fine now thankfully and obviously vaxxed up. Still relatively little attention is being paid to long covid by governments and health industry two years on. It is what it is I suppose.
Interesting Im going to read through this. Was the covid cohort studied post vaccine?
I think some were and some weren’t. They try to control for this by using a mix of contemporary and historic control cohorts.
I've just read in our local paper that 2 cases of Omicron 2 have been isolated in our region of Italy. The article quotes the experts as saying it's too early to tell if it's more contagious.
Just under 500k positive tests in NL today, population 17m. Thats quite an achievement
Didn't they announce today that they're doing away with restrictions soon? They said something about not being able to cope socially and economically with more lockdowns.
Presser next week. The new guy in charge of health is a highly acclaimed scientist and is pro opening up. While hospitals are seeing a rise in patients, icu numbers are falling.
I'm going to Spain at the end of Feb, I'm having my booster this Saturday and I had Covid at the end of December. Aside from filling out the Spanish form, do i need to have a pre-departure covid test? It's all a bit confusing for me.
Currently there's no testing required for people who are fully vaccinated:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/entry-requirements
Like all these things, there's no knowing what they'll say at the end of February. Spain has a list of "high risk" countries. The UK isn't currently on it.
https://www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm
Exact same trend as in Ireland, we opened up a few weeks ago and hospital and ICU numbers are still going down.
Woohoo, no mo isolation after 21st Feb according to BoJo today. It's being brought forward by a month. The optimism is infectious. 
No isolation for those who test positiveWoohoo, no mo isolation after 21st Feb according to BoJo today. It's being brought forward by a month. The optimism is infectious.
This can't be a good idea
It's also throwing under the bus those who cant get the vaccine or are otherwise vulnerable. Those people will now be terrified of going anywhere.
That was always going to be the case one day sadly. Seems like the UK is determined to be the first to officially "beat" covid
Tories will definitely want to claim that. “Get covid done”
the mentality change is amazing
We’re doing great right now. It’s been an unexpected bonus to stop counting/caring about case numbers. That was a subtle stress to deal with for fecking ages.
It does feel premature to just give the signal not to bother isolating right? I mean they could have at least enforced it'll still be guidance just not a legal requirement.
We were at the aquarium at the weekend and most, including a couple with coughs, were maskless. We were in a minority wearing one but it was very busy and crowded.
We were at the aquarium at the weekend and most, including a couple with coughs, were maskless. We were in a minority wearing one but it was very busy and crowded.
hey guys, could anybody give me some insight when you're not infectious anymore after having contracted corona? Like how many days on average after not having symptoms (and testing negative, obviously) are necessary to wait it out? Thing is, I found contradicting information while googling (even on official sites) and would like to get some input, since people like @Pogue Mahone are very well informed. My wife and my daughter tested positive on monday and already feel better (and tested negative this evening) and I am very eager to stop separating myself from them.
Depends on country, I think in ireland is when you get so many neg lateral flows in a row. 3? (1 each day not all same day)
practising being cnuts
Well, maybe I worded my question not precisely enough, but I meant biological, not legal aspects. As in: after someone contracted corona and is tested negative and doesn't have symptoms anymore, what is the most reasonable and logical timeframe in which I can see said person without contracting the virus myself?
Ah sorry, understand now but no idea
He had replied to a similar question from me with a twitter thread showing graphs of viral load. Based on my memory of that, the viral level has drops after 5, 7, and 10 days, but I think a negative test should be more important than a graph based on averages from other people, and I don't think those graphs separated based on negative/positive tests.
You’d think maybe one lesson that could have been learned from this whole thing is to stay off when you’re ill? Self isolation when you have anything should be a given. Capitalism says NO.
If they’re testing negative and feeling better then your chance of catching anything off them is fairly trivial.
Ultimately the decision depends on your own perception of risk and consequences of getting infected. If you’re extremely clinically vulnerable then you might want to be more careful. If you’re young/healthy and vaccinated/boosted then there’s a case to be made for not separating from them in the first place.
thanks anyways!
Alright.
Thanks! Well, I am selfemployed, which is why getting corona and risking shutting down the business for a week would be absolutely catastrophic, so I decided to play it safe. I am triple vaccinated, 32 years old and have no known underlying health issues at this moment. I guess I will wait till they test negative tomorrow and then proceed with business as usual.
Thank you guys for your input.
No cold, no flu and no sniffles for 2 years. Such a contrast from the last quarter of 2019 when I was off several times sick. Beginning of 2020 too until office closed. No office, no people, no contact. Its that simple to beat any 'catchy' illness
Cracking, thanks Jo.
Spot the magic trick in the graph
Two years this has lasted now, I'm ready for it to end, I'm sure most of us are.