Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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I would back Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to not win the league with this PSG and have them in the Europa league. Tbf.
Hey, Lille, Monaco and Lyon are no pushovers. He’d bring some much needed stability and positivity in the dressing room, it counts more than tactics or success on the pitch.
 
I think even Solskjaer would manage to win the league with state backing. And he's already shown in the EPL that he can manage a team to a higher league finish than Pochettino.

The man couldn’t win a Europa league final against C list team La Liga side. I fairly doubt he would win the French league. I mean ex PSG managers to win it include Blanc, Tunchel, Emre, Don Carlo (I might be wrong). It’s not like they have crap managers wining the league.

He would bring balance back to the French league. Which would be lovely.
 
The man couldn’t win a Europa league final against C list team La Liga side. I fairly doubt he would win the French league. I mean ex PSG managers to win it include Blanc, Tunchel, Emre, Don Carlo (I might be wrong). It’s not like they have crap managers wining the league.

He would bring balance back to the French league. Which would be lovely.
I'm not sure what you mean by calling Villareal a C list team. But I do know they're a good team and were coached by someone who had won the the Europa League before.

What did Pochettino win of note? He must've won loads to get the PSG job.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by calling Villareal a C list team. But I do know they're a good team and were coached by someone who had won the the Europa League before.

What did Pochettino win of note? He must've won loads to get the PSG job.

He’s going to win the title with PSG. I’m sure if his Spurs teams were as crap as Emre’s Seville teams he could of won a few Europa’s too. But he was too busy managing a Champions league team.
 
He’s going to win the title with PSG. I’m sure if his Spurs teams were as crap as Emre’s Seville teams he could of won a few Europa’s too. But he was too busy managing a Champions league team.
Solskjaer has achieved a higher league finish than Pochettino in the English Premiership. If he was as amazing as some of you think he was, he'd at the very least have won a title.

But being busy managing a Champions league team isn't impressive at all. '

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride
 
Olé has proven himself to be the ultimate bottler when it comes to trophies. Why is he still being compared to more successful managers? (And I am no Poch fan)
 
The man couldn’t win a Europa league final against C list team La Liga side. I fairly doubt he would win the French league. I mean ex PSG managers to win it include Blanc, Tunchel, Emre, Don Carlo (I might be wrong). It’s not like they have crap managers wining the league.

He would bring balance back to the French league. Which would be lovely.

Harsh on Villarreal. They're a good side who always seem to be a tough nut to crack for United. United are terrible against Spanish sides in general.
 
Solskjaer has achieved a higher league finish than Pochettino in the English Premiership. If he was as amazing as some of you think he was, he'd at the very least have won a title.

But being busy managing a Champions league team isn't impressive at all. '

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride

Finished second with an open cheque book. An injury ridden Liverpool team, a Chelsea team with a manager to matched his abilities and a Pochless Spurs. The cards couldn’t have been dealt better and even then he nearly got caught.

How have the managers who have replaced Poch got on with Spurs? I appreciate your effort but I know even you don’t believe what your saying. But good banter.
 
Harsh on Villarreal. They're a good side who always seem to be a tough nut to crack for United. United are terrible against Spanish sides in general.

Yeah I was being dramatic :lol:. We still should of beat them though.
 
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Finished second with an open cheque book. An injury ridden Liverpool team, a Chelsea team with a manager to match his abilities and a Pochless Spurs. The cards could have been dealt better and even then he nearly got caught.

How have the managers who have replaced Poch got on with Spurs? I appreciate your effort but I know even you don’t believe what your saying. But good banter.
I wouldn't say it was a open cheque book. We didn't have oil/state backing. But the awful Solskjaer who is the worst manager ever to exist, still managed to record a higher league finish than your precious Pochettino.
 
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I wouldn't say it was a open cheque book. We didn't have oil/state backing. But the awful Solskjaer who is the worst manager ever to exist, still managed to record a higher league finish than your precious Pochettino.

If Poch was given the reigns with that same amount of money he would of failed far less dramatically than Ole did. For one he wouldn’t of left us with Harry Maguire as captain:)
 
I'm not sure what you mean by calling Villareal a C list team. But I do know they're a good team and were coached by someone who had won the the Europa League before.

What did Pochettino win of note? He must've won loads to get the PSG job.

Villareal 2019/20 and 20/21 was running on a €115M budget for the season. That's a championship budget. That includes everything, the amortization of previous transfers, the salaries, the stadium maintenance... It was definitely not a Tier A club in la Liga. It was only normal they ended the season at 7th., 20 points behind Tier B team Sevilla.

They are better this season after the CL qualification. But losing the consolation trophy to them is atrocious... Especially after having lost in the CL group stages games to f***ig Istanbul.
 
Villareal 2019/20 and 20/21 was running on a €115M budget for the season. That's a championship budget. That includes everything, the amortization of previous transfers, the salaries, the stadium maintenance... It was definitely not a Tier A club in la Liga. It was only normal they ended the season at 7th., 20 points behind Tier B team Sevilla.

They are better this season after the CL qualification. But losing the consolation trophy to them is atrocious... Especially after having lost in the CL group stages games to f***ig Istanbul.
The budget is irrelevant because otherwise we might as well hand the titles to the state backed teams like PSG, City etc.

It's about the head coach and the team and the team dynamic that's been created in the Cup competition in question. That's what's important.
 
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I wouldn't say it was a open cheque book. We didn't have oil/state backing. But the awful Solskjaer who is the worst manager ever to exist, still managed to record a higher league finish than your precious Pochettino.
What do you mean by that last bit? Ole and Poch have both finished second in the league one time each I’m pretty sure.
 
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If Poch was given the reigns with that same amount of money he would of failed far less dramatically than Ole did. For one he wouldn’t of left us with Harry Maguire as captain
Maybe he would've left us with Davinson Sanchez.;)
 
What do you mean by that last bit? Ole and Poch have both finished second in the league one time each I’m pretty sure.
The Poch year you’re thinking of is when they were title challengers and bottled it at the very end, allowing someone (Chelsea/Arsenal?) to sneak into second ahead of them. Ergo the saying “finished 3rd in a 2 horse race”. That was that infamous battle at the Bridge when Spurs players lost their heads completely iirc.
 
Maybe he would've left us with Davinson Sanchez.

We’d be lucky. We’ve got a 29 year old Fridge with an asset value of around £60m that we can’t shift. What’s Sanchez saying for Spurs’s books?
 
The Poch year you’re thinking of is when they were title challengers and bottled it at the very end, allowing someone (Chelsea/Arsenal?) to sneak into second ahead of them. Ergo the saying “finished 3rd in a 2 horse race”. That was that infamous battle at the Bridge when Spurs players lost their heads completely iirc.
No, the Poch year I’m thinking of is when they finished second and got 86 points.
I just looked it up, 2016/2017 season.
 
Poch wasn't that impressive mate, finishing higher than 3rd was beyond him.
You are wrong. He finished 2nd in 2017. With a total of 86 points. A total worthy of winning the league in some normal seasons.
 
You are wrong. He finished 2nd in 2017. With a total of 86 points. A total worthy of winning the league in some normal seasons.
Yes I'm wrong but Solskjaer who someone here considers a awful manager, matched his best EPL finish.
 
Another awful performance, but when you have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, Veratti, etc, you should still win the league on autopilot.

 
Sanchez, Ndombele, Le Celso aren't saying a lot.

Unfortunately he didn’t get to coach the latter for long.

However how are Maguire, Dan James, AWB, Van De Beek, Ighalo, Amad, Pellistri doing :lol:

Not to mention he left us with an injury prone striker, a AM that thinks there an SS and a 37 year old goat turn kid. But that’s another story.
 
Yes I'm wrong but Solskjaer who someone here considers a awful manager, matched his best EPL finish.

Comparing apples and oranges. Poch got Spurs 86 points, their highest total in the PL history. They were clear of everyone else (including Pep and Klopp), only beaten by a record braking Chelsea managing 30 wins. In that season Chelsea had the advantage of not playing any european competition!!

Olé is unfortunately the opposite, he is going down as the first manager in recent history to lead United for more than 1 season and not get any silverware.
 
Another awful performance, but when you have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, Veratti, etc, you should still win the league on autopilot.



It was not an awful performance, you obviously didn't watch the game and neither did the author of the tweet you mentionned. We've won games being FAR worse than that. Nantes did good but we just missed huge opportunity and the referee (I really rarely complain about that) was absolutely terrible. Offensively it was probably one of our best performances in Ligue 1 this year, but Neymar, Mbappé, Gueye and Messi all missed 1v1.
 
Unfortunately he didn’t get to coach the latter for long.

However how are Maguire, Dan James, AWB, Van De Beek, Ighalo, Amad, Pellistri doing :lol:

Not to mention he left us with an injury prone striker, a AM that thinks there an SS and a 37 year old goat turn kid. But that’s another story.
That's so unfortunate that he couldn't manage to coach the latter for longer.

They're doing as well as Davinson Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sissoko, Fazio, Stambouli, Jack Clarke, and the list goes on.
 
It was not an awful performance, you obviously didn't watch the game and neither did the author of the tweet you mentionned. We've won games being FAR worse than that. Nantes did good but we just missed huge opportunity and the referee (I really rarely complain about that) was absolutely terrible. Offensively it was probably one of our best performances in Ligue 1 this year, but Neymar, Mbappé, Gueye and Messi all missed 1v1.
I didn't watch the game, I'm just having a bit of fun here.
 
Comparing apples and oranges. Poch got Spurs 86 points, their highest total in the PL history. They were clear of everyone else (including Pep and Klopp), only beaten by a record braking Chelsea managing 30 wins. In that season Chelsea had the advantage of not playing any european competition!!

Olé is unfortunately the opposite, he is going down as the first manager in recent history to lead United for more than 1 season and not get any silverware.
Pep and Klopp were building their teams and laying foundations at the time. When they managed to create conditions where they can implement a high compact block, it was bad news for Pochettino who for so long had the advantage of being in a small minority of coaches who were a ahead of the game when it came to applying a coordinated press in the EPL. That advantage started dissipating with the arrival of the aforementioned two and other coaches. And that imo is one of the reasons he lost his way at Spurs
 
It was not an awful performance, you obviously didn't watch the game and neither did the author of the tweet you mentionned. We've won games being FAR worse than that. Nantes did good but we just missed huge opportunity and the referee (I really rarely complain about that) was absolutely terrible. Offensively it was probably one of our best performances in Ligue 1 this year, but Neymar, Mbappé, Gueye and Messi all missed 1v1.

Yes. Lafont had the game of his life and saved some sitters + the penalty. But you were poor defensively, almost every transition was setting Simon or Muani on 1 vs 1 or 2vs2 with your CBs.

There seems to be something terribly wrong with that first line of pressing. And it is surprising because it was the opposite in the CL against Madrid. You suffocated them well and didn't allow them any transitions.
 
Pep and Klopp were building their teams and laying foundations at the time. When they managed to create conditions where they can implement a high compact block, it was bad news for Pochettino who for so long had the advantage of being in a small minority of coaches who were a ahead of the game when it came to applying a coordinated press in the EPL. That advantage started dissipating with the arrival of the aforementioned two and other coaches. And that imo is one of the reasons he lost his way at Spurs

I partially agree with you on that, but he wasn't given anywhere near the financial backing to renew his team. So it is unfair to compare his results at Spurs with managers given much more means to build and then continuously improve their roster.
 
I partially agree with you on that, but he wasn't given anywhere near the financial backing to renew his team. So it is unfair to compare his results at Spurs with managers given much more means to build and then continuously improve their roster.
I have criticised Solskjaer myself and wanted him gone long before he was sacked. But I found it strange that someone would bring up Solskjaer, when he wasn't even being discussed. So I played along.
 
I partially agree with you on that, but he wasn't given anywhere near the financial backing to renew his team. So it is unfair to compare his results at Spurs with managers given much more means to build and then continuously improve their roster.
Somewhat true but i think he kind of threw a bit of a strop and really gave them no option but to sack him in the last 6+ months. They were beginning to make money a bit more available at that point and they could've rebuilt with the right signings with a rough year maybe.
I dont think he ever spent the money available to him that well overall anyway. He bought one of the cb's from southampton in his first season i think, which was a great signing. I'm not sure how involved he was with Alli and Son but otherwise their signings have been pretty poor for a long time.
Its a fair point in his favour but i think whatever the money available he had a great team for a couple of years and could've or should've won something. Their cup exits were always so tame and underwhelming.
Hes a good manager but i see a similar story to how Oles time went where he gets close but will never quite get over the line. He'd do it in a much more convincing manner, he's better than solskjaer, just not quite good enough imo.
 
Yes. Lafont had the game of his life and saved some sitters + the penalty. But you were poor defensively, almost every transition was setting Simon or Muani on 1 vs 1 or 2vs2 with your CBs.

There seems to be something terribly wrong with that first line of pressing. And it is surprising because it was the opposite in the CL against Madrid. You suffocated them well and didn't allow them any transitions.

It's not the first line of pressing that bothered me the most today even if they could obviously do more. Gueye and Wijnaldum were absolutely terrible both defensively and offensively. We're basically playing with 1 midfielder (Verratti) trying to cover a 3 men job. Our midfield sucks, Pochettino managed to craft something decent for big games with Danilo defending for Messi/Hakimi and Paredes taking care of the 1st pass but any other combination of players suck. Herrera, Gueye and Wijnaldum are all horrific this season (Paredes as well in ligue 1 bud he manages to raise his level in the CL, lazy bas*rd).
 
It's not the first line of pressing that bothered me the most today even if they could obviously do more. Gueye and Wijnaldum were absolutely terrible both defensively and offensively. We're basically playing with 1 midfielder (Verratti) trying to cover a 3 men job. Our midfield sucks, Pochettino managed to craft something decent for big games with Danilo defending for Messi/Hakimi and Paredes taking care of the 1st pass but any other combination of players suck. Herrera, Gueye and Wijnaldum are all horrific this season (Paredes as well in ligue 1 bud he manages to raise his level in the CL, lazy bas*rd).
Wijnaldum's legs are going/gone. He might be 31 only, but he accrued lots of miles under Klopp (Liverpool's most available midfielder), and now it is starting to show off.

That's why a club should be hesitant to buy a Klopp player. The only exception to this was Lewandowski, and possibly Salah.
 
:lol: at @Adnan obvious hate for Pochettino. We understand that you don’t like the guy. You are being too obvious. After seeing ole, how can anyone think he is better than Pochettino is just a blatant attempt at trolling that the mods should take note of. No reasonable poster would even try comparing them. Hopefully, Ole will get a job at a top club again, so he can really show what he can do even after wasting million.

Anyway, on the performance today, it seems like it was what I have been saying all along. About poor finishing. Even the real psg fans are saying that the performance was good today but they were not clinical today, while Nantes was very clinical. The Neymar penalty miss was shocking. I didn’t watch the game, but to hear these fans say that is a bit of a suprised considering Pochettino is typically the scapegoat when they lose.
 
Didn't want the game, but obviously still have an opinion on it to back Poch. Amazing.
 
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