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Feels very Trumpy.
Block the idiot. Way too many people giving him oxygen by replying too him.
Christ, that’s ominous.
It’s proper buzzing to see a bunch of grown adults get wet at the lip and stonking hardons at the prospect of thousands of people killing each other
You're right. Sorry.
Macron acting tough? What's the point?
I get the feeling the "big" powers are just going to make shoddy little sanctions, while smaller nations are the ones who actually want to physically help and care. US, UK, France, Germany etc just a bunch of wet lettuces.
Still can't get used to this firefights going on and random cars meandering around. Horrifying.
Not singling you out (there are a dozen to choose from), just easiest to quote, but people need to stop attacking the poster in here (I think the only rule of this forum I remember is attack the post, not the poster).
If people can't do that, then they have to ignore the person (literally or otherwise).
Maybe Putler told him something on the call he didn't like.
What does war look like at the minute? Is it all reasonable force stuff so far?
Is there still some element of weird decorum to it? If 200 Elite Russian soldiers were in a building they had recently captured, would it be against the rules of war for Ukraine to blow the building up and kill 200 soldiers with it? Would that risk escalation?
Is there still some element of weird decorum to it? If 200 Elite Russian soldiers were in a building they had recently captured, would it be against the rules of war for Ukraine to blow the building up and kill 200 soldiers with it? Would that risk escalation?
This is a terrible take. Well meaning perhaps, but a little historical context would make you realize how crazy this sounds.
It's day one and Russia invaded through 3 flanks, shelling the entire country for a full day. I think we're way past the escalation stage..
Give yourself a break and stop posting. You've messed up here. It happens. Don't die on this hill.
No, I havn't misunderstood anything. I understand completely what you meant. That if it's over quick it will mean less harm for the Ukrainians and things would be over and all dandy. Of course everyone hopes this was the case but it's simply not the case it's some dystopian fictional idea and so far from the reality it could be labeled delusional. It doesn't work that way.
Putin literally wants to crush them to pieces and whatever is left will no longer be called Ukraine. If Putin gets what he wants there will no longer be any Ukraine. What would be left is hundreds of thousand civillans dead and crumbled nation. Ukrainans will not give up when their neighbor is bombing their families to death only to in the end succumb to tyranny.
Day 1 was terrible and it was just the intro, in spite of Ukraine heroics. Praying for Kyiv right now. Hoping people in Russia can persist with their courage while protesting at what their mad ruler is doing right now to their nieghbors and brothers.
The thing is he won’t be able to hold Ukraine with a puppet government, it will require a full scale military presence at all times to keep the lid.
Putin has already won. The western powers have done and will do nothing of substance. It’s over
A bit childish maybe but I wonder what would happen if NATO special forces managed to assassinate Putin? Is there anyone else capable waiting in the wings to take over? Would Russia persist in Ukraine? His deputies always appear as if they’re acting under duress.
That goes without saying. Those opposing the new regime will also be persecuted. Even if this is over quickly there will still be killings in resistant areas.
Hard to say about the reasonable force stuff, we've not fully seen the extent of the damage, specifically Sumy/Kharkov that have taken the brunt of fire.
Bit of a specifically odd question
Seems clear to me that would be in the 'rules' of war, whatever they are.So far it seems reasonable in the sense that white flags are respected and POW's are being taken on both sides. No reports of unwarranted executions coming out.
But when it's 200 Russians in a building showing resistance, you blow them up. It's as simple as that.
Aye you may be right. Time will tell I suppose. I’m obviously in the minority of wanting human life to be protected here so I shall return to lurking
I don’t think his objective is to hold Ukraine. it’s mainly the separatist regions he is after… And it seems that the government in Kiev hasn’t done anything in the last 8 years to gain the minority’s trust and secure their support against this invasion.
The only plan was to integrate NATO and hope they provide unconditional protection from the dictator next door.
Heard on the radio today that he will require around 600k troops stationed in Ukraine to hold it.
The Russians obliterated an island held by 13 border guards today.
Since we’re speaking of reality…
It’s funny you mention the 1940s though. Your defeatist mentality would have fit in with many who wanted to just roll over and quit.
That tweet is something. Le Drian was asked about Putin's words regarding Russia's response to countries meddling and Le Drian responded that Putin should remember that NATO is also a nuclear power.
Would you be worried if you're Cyprus or Greece - two countries who've allowed huge amounts of Russians to become residents in recent years? Seems like any ethnic russian presence in your land gives the Russian President reason to move in and claim the land as their own.
Not just trying, succeeding.
Plenty of people are worth starving of oxygen when you are coming from a position of extreme ignorance and dying on that hill. There’s nothing to be gained by wasting your energy on every troll or idiot.
The airport battle will definitely be turned into a movie.
Agree. Despite the horrific scenes I'll end today with a sliver of optimism that this has been a Disaster for Putin and Ukraine will prevail, we'll see how he escalates overnight however.
A naive position at the best of times, let alone when we've already had reports that there are indeed plans to ship people off to camps like it’s the 1940s. Unless journalists, activists and gay rights advocates don't count as the "normal Ukrainians" who get to resume their lives.
Good luck finding such numbers. Even after William Westmoreland got a peak of 535,000 US personnel in Vietnam, everything went downhill afterwards.
We’re less than 24 hours into this, and with war being so unpredictable and with so many potential unintended consequences, I don’t understand how you guys can be so certain in your (conflicting) predictions here?
People forget but one thing that came out of snowden was the fact that the US invented the game of placing dormant backdoor in friends or foes. Will be surprised if this is not the case here, with their reliance on antiquated stuff like Windows xp.
Amazing that they still have an air-force, god knows how they've managed that, could just be the complete incompetence on Russia's side.