The chase for 4th place (not top 4)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
the two you mentioned plus neves aswell had a few
arsenal deserved to win 100% they were superior & showed character
You have about 1 game a week and haven't been in Europe all season. If those players get burned out from that schedule then your fitness and nutritional teams need sacking.
Saka in particular has had a long season, given his involvement in the England side. You just never know with the younger players, it may not be just physical but mental fatigue too.
Though having said that, I think Saka already went through that mental fatigue faze earlier this season.
It's their only problem at the moment, scoring goals, and I think Arteta really wanted to address it with Vlahovic in January. He would have definitely been the missing piece of their puzzle. It's actually the first time in many years I've seen Arsenal without a top striker during a period of the season. They always had defensive and midfield shortcomings. You really can't say that Arteta doesn't have a clear plan.
As you indicate, Saka seems pretty switched on and made from the right stuff. I cannot see him get too fazed mentally. Additionally, a 20 year old body recovers a lot quicker than a 30 year old one.
For me, Arsenal are in the driving seat. One of the easier schedules out of Man Utd, Spurs and Wolves and have played the less football than two of them.
Goals are an issue, but you're playing relatively well defensively for the first time in a decade. Honestly, unless some injuries really hit or Utd/Spurs start becoming winning machines (not likely) I can't see past them.
Hold on, I thought you were a United fan?
The username should give it away mate.
As much as I hate to see it, I think Arsenal are going to get there ahead of us. They dealt with the dressing room drama, the egos, the discipline issues and are just focused on the task at hand.
United have a lot more BS drama around us. Shit players not wanting to sit on the bench, dressing room leaks, Ronaldo must always play and cannot get subbed, Maguire and to an extent even Rangnick and his big mouth. The other big issue is that we're in the midst of a change in how we play while Arsenal have been getting used to Arteta's methods for > two seasons. Every player knows what their role is.
I believe we still have the better players overall, so maybe that'll be enough to overcome the drama, but I just don't see it.
United have a lot more BS drama around us. Shit players not wanting to sit on the bench, dressing room leaks, Ronaldo must always play and cannot get subbed, Maguire and to an extent even Rangnick and his big mouth. The other big issue is that we're in the midst of a change in how we play while Arsenal have been getting used to Arteta's methods for > two seasons. Every player knows what their role is.
I believe we still have the better players overall, so maybe that'll be enough to overcome the drama, but I just don't see it.
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You clearly don't know the facts. Stick to what Celtic are doing, maybe try getting Brendan back.
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how is it misleading? They dropped points to Everton, Wolves and Brighton
Chelsea fans moaning about injuries given how big and how much money has been spent on that squad
Arsenal wouldn't be within 5 points if they had already played Liverpool, City and Spurs.
Anyone can drop points to Wolves and Brighton, they are decent sides.
The treatment of Saliba is a head scratcher for sure, what happened there? Hows Guendouzi doing now?
A lot of decisions went for you i thought, but you deserved the win overall. We inexplicably shit the bed after going ahead, especially given it’s the first time in 45 games that we’ve lost after taking the lead. I don’t think we played well in either game.
4th is between united and arsenal in my opinion
He's doing good and often in the Ligue 1 team of the week with Saliba. But you just know that sooner or later he will overstep and cause problems. There was already small rifts rumors at the start of the season.
Saliba was always highly rated, I was surprised at his treatment at Arsenal. Do you know what he fell out with Arteta over, or was it playing time?
He's developing as planned I reckon.
I had thought that it would be Spurs and perhaps it still will be, but Arsenal are looking pretty good for a 4th place finish now.
I don't see United, West Ham or Wolves quite making it.
I don't see United, West Ham or Wolves quite making it.
Ultimately, Arteta deemed him not ready for PL action so he went on loan and got 2 full playing seasons as a 20y old CB + some European experience.
Arsenal clearly messed up the way it was communicated to him and made him losing 6 months but it could be for the best. They will try to renew his contract with a raise and Marseille won't be able to match it. He could sign, "fail" at Arsenal and still be a very promising young CB not short of suitors. Win win for him.
All over for United.
Well done to arsenal or spurs.
Europa fecking league again FFS.
Well done to arsenal or spurs.
Europa fecking league again FFS.
Not a chance for United. It'll be Arsenal by a good chunk imo
It's over. Win the CL or it's europa next season
Even finishing fifth is far from a sure thing for United. Ronaldo has been woeful since the new year
I think thats 4th gone now. We have a battle on our hands to qualify for the Europa League.
Can we finish 8th? I don't want EL or conference League
I'll say it again. Arsenal easily because they don't drop points regularly against dross like Watford.
Hopefully it's a battle we lose. feck that shit.
We're most likely done.
Feel like its ours to lose. However, our squad is pretty thin, an injury to Laca, Partey or Saka and the wheels will come off.
Well done Arsenal od perhaps Spurs if they can get better.
This was our last game in the easy number of fixtures since December. Got just another draw. Shame.
This was our last game in the easy number of fixtures since December. Got just another draw. Shame.
I wonder what varane is thinking, multiple CL winner and how confined to the EL
Ronaldo has been the difference for all the wrong reasons though
We deserve the conference league
Agree. Battle between you and spurs now.
his fault, he chose to leave Madrid in fairness
So many results in favour of Arsenal. Never saw that coming.
Next 4 games for United will determined their season.
Next 4 games for United will determined their season.
Arsenal will get the 4th place and make no mistake about it, it will have nothing to do with Arsenal being good and everything to do with us and Spurs being so incredibly shit. We have gift wrapped Arsenal the 4th place.
It's a chase for dignity that players lost and tougher matches still ahead.