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So all NATO countries should underfund their military because NATO is there to defend them? Not sure you grasp the concept, buddy. If every NATO country keeps negleting their armed forces, NATO will become a think tank.
Sort of makes sense. Indian reporters also interviewing many Indian students stuck at Polish borders not being allowed to cross. Threats of being beaten up and firing in the air is what these kids are saying. You’re talking about 20 yr old kids - boys and girls alike.
it’s definitely happening. War is sucky.
That's not what im saying.
Just saying that nato still does the job without needing to go into the opposite extreme. At least for now.
Putin's LNG export policy is the main reason for the current spike in Europe's energy prices. If he gets deposed, it would have a big impact on the quality of life for 10s of millions across the continent.
It wont. They need stability for global growth. So they are playing the long game with Russia.
Probably. The US defo start their fair share of wars. Geopolitics change all the time. NATO is a concept that is here now, but may not be there in 5 years time.
NATO is strong now, but may not be in 5 years time.
At least they're open about it..a) Germany isn't going into the opposite extreme, but catching up: Scholz has pledged to fulfill the 2% that everyone agreed on, the €100bn are supposed to make up for previous underspending
b) NATO does the job as long as the US prop it up, which one can probably rely on Biden to do, but what/who comes after him?
I’m gobsmacked Russia haven’t been able to take Kharkiv yet.
They haven't taken any major city so far, have they?
Friedman speaking out, Abramovich (virtually) stepping down and allowing Chelsea to post a statement about the war (even a short evasive one), that's 2 of the 10 richest oligarchs in the Putin circle. Lets hope others come out of the woods, that could move the lines significantly. I guess they don't like their 200M yachts to be confiscated.
Same mindset since colonial times.
Yeah. If everyone agrees to split the bill, but nobody is willing to pay up, what happens when it’s actually due? You hope the other debtors pay your share because “we’re in this together”? Right now this has been the mentality for most NATO countries, and as much as it hurts to say it, Trump legitimately called them out for it. The constant underfunding and reliance on USA was/is naive and unfair.
This comes with little surprise, hopefully everyone gets out safely.
People aren’t having to wait the equivalent of 2-3 hours for checks though, they’re being turned away/continually returned to the back of the queue. In a time of war I’m unsure how you can explain this away with Schengen rules, if the result of such a rule is a group of people continually being denied exit then the rule is the issue. Threatening to shoot people doesn’t strike me as ‘safe’ but ‘uncomfortable’.
If during a time like this we don’t prioritise human life over passports then we truly have failed as a human race.
So I’ve seen an interview not where someone mentioned that people with blue eyes were being massacred — at best that comment was tone deaf and at worst it was racist.
Does it really matter more that Europeans are being killed and not Afghanis or Yemenis?
Does it really matter more that Europeans are being killed and not Afghanis or Yemenis?
do we know the breakdown of the ethnicities that have died yet? i want to be appalled by it all but if we’re only talking a handful of white people and mostly browns dying then we can go back to our avocado on toast without worrying about any of this.
Guys stop posting russian propaganda /s
This partly explains why people’s understanding of the politics of Easter European countries collapses when trying to place everyone on a left-right spectrum. You can be quite heavily to right and still have your more natural political allies in the West be left-wing or left-centre, because you share a pro-European stance.
I think that confuses a lot of people in the UK especially, where Brexiteers and the current Tory Party are right-wing but are more defined by their Euroscepticism, which makes them very politically remote from centre-right and right-wing parties in many central and eastern European countries.
Blue eyed, blonde haired. How Hitl. . . never mind.
For the reaction of westerners it sure does. If Putin was doing this on his eastern border you wouldn't see such a response and the willingness for sanctions that cut both ways.
Unfortunately yes, its 2022 but there are people that still think some lives are worth more than others
This is official page of Russian Embassy in BiH.
This is what it says:
Objection of Russian Federation Embassy in BiH
US Embassy in Sarajevo has published on its instagram page a pathetic "documentary" which states that Russian representatives have "lied" about not having intentions to "invade" Ukraine.
As usual, it is the Americans that lie. There is no "invasion". Instead of that, there is a special operation of demilitarization and denazification of Ukrainian regime.
Demilitarization - because it was precisely the United States who stood behind arming the criminal band with weapons, which were then used to barbarically destroy civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk, including children.
None other than United States have filled Ukraine with biolabs that were - quite possibly - used to study methods of destroying Russian people on genetic level.
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Denazification - because United States where the ones who supported Neo-Nazi tactics and strategies of Banderites of Kyiv, effectively denying Ukraine, as a Minsk agreeement side, to fullfil its obligations.
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United States are commited to their hypocritial policy in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is Washington that actually hinders dialogue within BiH, turns constitutive nations each against the other and opposes abolishing anachronic foreign protectorate which is represented through Office of High Representative. At the same time, Washington "carefully" pushes such Bosnia and Herzegovina towards EU, so that it can be - just like Kosovo - used as a "fuse" against it geopolitical opponent, which is EU. It is true, even though in light of current imaginary solidarity between USA and Europe on "Ukrainian case", such a statement may look excessive. But the moment of truth will come.
USA are not a "proven friend", but experienced predator which is going to, without hesitation, let its allies down to their own destiny, if its tail is stepped on. Examples are in this case needless.
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Even the acronym USA is deciphered by some Americans as United States of Anxiety. Anxiety is, and we would like to add, lies too, what United States bring to the whole world.
This is incredible. These people are really insane.
UK is being too aggressive in this situations, they've taken actions too much in the past few days imho. They need to calm down a bit. I really like Ukraine's fighting spirits, respect.
Seen many reports that many African migrants in Ukraine are finding it difficult to cross the Ukrainian-Polish border.
Statue pending.
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I have a lot of respect for this man.
I have a lot of respect for this man.
All it takes is for another Trump to get elected in the US and withdraw them, and suddenly NATO is looking like it needs more firepower.
NATO nations committed to spending 2% GDP on defense, they should be doing so. Its pathetic for the likes of Germany to just expect others to step in to defend them.
If you want peace, you must prepare for war.
Going back to the actual point of the thread, its brilliant to see the Ukrainians holding their own. The longer they hold out, the more problematic this entire affair becomes for Putin, who was banking on a swift 'blitzkrieg' style victory and capitulation. The sanctions being brought in now and discussed are the ones that we shouldve been doing from the start, to really kick hit Russia where it hurts. It is unfortunate that the Russian civilians will suffer from this, but ultimately if you have a rogue state under a dictator, these steps need to be taken to limit their ability to threaten the rest of the world. A beaten down and broken Russia is much less of a threat, even with their nukes (which wont be used to first strike a country like Ukraine).
Deary me.
It's peak monkey brain to think that underfunding military is the way to go when we live in times like these. It seems to me that you obviously have no idea what so ever about the state of the german military. Like, completely clueless. Especially compared to our economical power and responsibility towards Europe - as no other country profits as much from the EU as we do, yet we always fell short in terms of spending when it comes to defence. Our european allies, the US and basically everybody kept crying about how little we spend on military and now that we do, people keep crying. I guess you can't please everyone, but let me tell you that the german military is in desparate need of this money.
That's the way I see it too. By no means should anybody be frightened by Germany finally fulfilling its duty to spend proportional on military. Especially considering our economical and political role in Europe as the biggest nation. We always fell short when it came to responsibility in that regard.
I understand that learning from history is something of great importance - but comparing the current Germany with the Germany from 1914 is a bit silly, quite frankly. As I said it in my previous posts again and again, a stronger Europe means less dependancy on our american friends, which should always remain allies. European emancipation is my vision for Europe, as not long time ago an american president played with the US' role in NATO and was very unreliable as a partner. Long term and very unfortunately with what's going on in the US, I feel like it's time to take a step away, from which, by the way, the US would profit as well, as it wouldn't need to spend as many resources for european soil.
Exactly, we can not act like we can rely on the US forever when someone like Trump was in office. And as you mentioned, the UK dissociating itself from mainland Europe doesn't help either. We should aim for european autonomy.
I'm not very informed on that technical side. While I know we definitely have the capabilities to create nukes as fast as it's basically humanly possible, how fast would that be? Does anybody know how long that process would take?
I feel like if Merkel is still a chancellor of Germany, the situations would be change into a bit different dimensions. Since I'm sure that Germany will take actions about Ukraine against Russia more.