Makes sense. Good point. I guess though I’m still surprised I haven’t seen any colour / longer pieces which give context to what’s happening (not from a tactical standpoint but what it’s actually like at the moment).
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He's been trying to look like he cares. He wants to occupy Ukraine and convince the people that submission to Russia is in their best interest. You can't appeal to those instincts if you've already revealed yourself to be the worst of cnuts.
As you said the US did use it in 2017. But that was directed at ISIS caves. Not a civilian area.
Was away the last couple of days. They actually surrendered and Russia announced that at the time and even showed their pictures and said they will return to their families safely after the conflict ends. Nobody posted it here?
There is a lot of propaganda going from both sides, and if you think Russia is lying more in this conflict then you're mistaken. Most of the viral picture/video that spread online from Ukraine's side was false and pure propaganda. The kids saluting the Ukrainian tank? From 2016. The 'molotov fight' in Kiev? From 2014. The Kltischko's and Zelensky's picture in uniform/with military forces all from before the conflict. The young girl confronting a 'Russian soldier', is actually a Palestinian girl confronting an Israeli soldier. The building that was one fire because 'Russia bombed it', was actually on fire because a Ukrainian place down by Russia fell on it, the tank overrunning a car in Kyiv? It was a Ukrainian vehicle, most probably trying to enforce the curfew they announced because they fear the pro-Russian people inside the city... and many more. The number of Russian casualties have also been greatly exaggerated by Ukrainian sources, but in fairness that happens in all conflicts from all sides.
No more Google Maps fecks everything up.
I would have thought so but that surely feeds into his paranoia even more and make him go 'heavier' on the attacks?
You'd think bringing a smartphone to an invasion would be kind of frowned upon.
https://rusi.org/explore-our-resear...ary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force
An interesting article on why the Russians have not used the vast majority of their air force.
An interesting article on why the Russians have not used the vast majority of their air force.
I'm afraid it's going to be very hard to distinguish what's wartime propaganda or not, on both sides. Even if I deeply symphathise with Ukraine, it's in their best interest to make the west think it's escalading fast. Even if I do think Putin could use such bomb, it doesn't make that much sense for him to use that right now when massive reinforcements are on their way. If he wanted to go for nasty bombs that early, he could have done that from the comfort of his borders.
They might be spreading the convoy to avoid too much drone damage. This would actually be smart.
It does seem odd to tweet about a quote claiming one had been used. If it had surely we'd have a lot of footage very quickly and if a journalist can't find footage to go with the claim it's at best unverified.
Having seen 2,000lbs bombs going off. From footage I've seen it's either thermobaric or a standard warhead that has hit an ammo depot or something similar.
There's absolutely no question that Russia are lying more, simply because they have essentially no independent media. They're still claiming this isn't a war or an invasion, for crying out loud.
With regards to your question about Ukrainian military scale, I don't know how accurately CNN researched it but here's an article:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/europe/russia-ukraine-military-comparison-intl/index.html
About 160,000 active personnel and 900,000 reservists, and that's excluding the current mass mobilization.
Meanwhile, the actual Russian force that's employed towards Ukraine is about 200,000 roughly. So...the catch is this: Russia is obviously not sending in their whole military force to Ukraine, they're using part of it. But that does mean that any aspirations of occupying Ukraine seems...unrealistic.
He’s saying today. The one yesterday was an ammo depot. The video I posted earlier is all I can find on Twitter of one claiming to be one today.
Of course they are, no doubt a about that, but we can also expect that Ukraine could inflate certain things to make the west react faster. Can't blame them but it's frustrating to to be able to assess things properly.
Ah ok, so that was an ammo depot.
Yeah, considering the Twitter poster doesn't know what she's on about I am not sure. It's really hard to tell without seeing the initial blast. It certainly seems like a substantial explosion.
And Mike Putin can feck off.
Doesn't appear to be any major media coverage of this, which would seem to suggest its unverified.
It's a tactic of war, a lot of the propaganda is also used to keep morale up.
I'm not talking about the broad terminology/politics, I'm talking about factual info/pictures/videos about the battle on the field. I have been following all sources in this conflict, and more of what I have heard from Ukraine's side turned out to be false. There are no independent media in this conflict, pretty much everybody is taking a side and consider itself as part of the war.
I'm glad I am not the only one. I want to take him seriously but I am half expecting a rendition of "Ukraine's army"
The funny thing is that they only debate that now because Putin went into Ukraine. He's isolating Russia more and more.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...land-to-pick-up-donated-fighter-jets-00012560
Seems like someone is sending planes at least. But who and how many. Maybe some deal has been made as has been mentioned.
They’ll be invaded tomorrow then
It kind of wouldn't surprise me if there was some back-alley deal where NATO will offer a contribution towards replacing them with something newer. The MiG-29 is really starting to get rather old now, particularly the older variants. And so it could be something that would make all 3 parties happy.
That is the danger of any measure or statement I guess.
Some of the stories coming out of Ukraine is really scary. Seems like the Russians might finally be starting to take off the gloves.
We've had some awful things already on display and it's just starting to get bad.
Speaking to some of my younger colleagues today, they seem a bit shocked. We have a couple of years difference in age but I always thought things could get worse but these 'kids' have grown up in a world where nothing bad happens.
We've had some awful things already on display and it's just starting to get bad.
Speaking to some of my younger colleagues today, they seem a bit shocked. We have a couple of years difference in age but I always thought things could get worse but these 'kids' have grown up in a world where nothing bad happens.
Really? They must have lived very sheltered lives, as terrible stuff like this and and times even worse has been happening regularly all over the world.
Yeah but what about Iraq?
Well, as difficult as it is for some to get it through their heads, things hit differently when it's on your door step.
I've seen shouting of racism, discrimination and whatever else. But it's just human nature and survival instinct kicking in.
The EU is not a military alliance, technically it's a trading block but has become more of a federation in recent years. Either way, Ukraine joining would not make any other EU nation obligated to defend them.
Many EU nations are also NATO members though.
Ukraine may join the EU, but not NATO.
Where do you live?
The MoD confirmed that the British military also used thermobaric weapons in Afghanistan.
Western Europe right now. However, unless you are a Brexiteer with a Farage portrait over your bed, you'd realise there's been a clear and distinct identity built up over the past 20 or so years and this all feels too close for comfort, wherever you are in Europe.
If those strikes happened it's not disinformation is it?
Agree about the points on Syria, Russia really did a number there, a total scorched earth approach which killed so many innocents.