The tartar Muslims for example used to the majority ethnic group in the Crimea, they're indigneous to the region, yet the Russians started forcing them out in the 18th century. Stalin essentially ethnically cleansed crimea of Tartars.
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The tartar Muslims for example used to the majority ethnic group in the Crimea, they're indigneous to the region, yet the Russians started forcing them out in the 18th century. Stalin essentially ethnically cleansed crimea of Tartars.
There isn’t going to be a nuclear war because no one is going to do anything that would risk it. Putin wants control of the eastern part of Ukraine and more control of Crimea. It all comes down to oil and gas. He isn’t after a world war.
Confirmation then they did indeed use one of these the other day. Turn the thing around and fire it back at that 40 mile long convoy of theirs.
But the Ukrainians have already decided to fight for their country? That decision is already made. I don’t see how they would meekly give in to everything Putin wants now.
The border lines of Asia and Africa say hello.
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Declare humanitarian crisis in western Ukraine, shut the skies there in order to secure safe passage for refugees, will also provide possible retreat route for ukrainian fighters should they need it. Call russian bluff, they want to start a war, they can make the first move.
Well if Ukraine doesn't want to be carved up, then unfortunately I see no other option then the flattening of Kyiv. Hard hats on.
The problem is the Ukrainian’s are never going to allow that to happen so then there’s a stalemate with neither side backing down. I don’t see how the situation de-escalates without removing Putin from power.
This could work if China were to get on board, as it would deprive Putin of all avenues of international legitimacy in attempting to block it.
Sweet tap dancing Jesus get that within range of the Kyiv convoy
I also don't think that they'll give it up. Just as I don't think that there will be any option that does not involve a massive amount of suffering. There were over 30K people who died in the battle of Aleppo for example. Aleppo is smaller than Kyiv, and Russia is stronger than Syria.
If Kyiv does not surrender soon, I fear we might have hundreds of thousand of deaths.
That's what I think too! Too bad it looks pretty banged up though
I could see a tactical nuke used first by Putin, like an old Davy Crockett. What happens after would be anyone’s guess.
He'll have plenty of those once everyone starts phasing out theirs. Also good on you to make apologies for him not wanting a world war, just a wee war with Ukraine, it's fine lads.
The NATO cavalry is not going to come riding over the hill so what’s your proposed solution?
Think it's probably safe to say they have.
Look how terrible that ground is. Don’t think that fecker is moving anytime soon.
No fecking way China would involve military in a no-fly zone. And I think there is next to no chance they will join the sanctions.
Scary stuff. You can actually see the muzzle flash of the tank at 15 seconds.
I’m not making apologies for him? I’m stating that’s what he wants? This whole madman wants a war narrative is just childish. He’s an absolute Cnut but he isn’t after a nuclear war. That’s just a fact.
Please point me to where either was suggested ?
But they’re fighting for their country, again that decision is made. If they were worried by people dying then surely they’d have simply gave into Russians demands from the outset? They’re defending their country and I can’t see them ever giving up Crimea because Russia invaded them again. The loss of life isn’t on Ukraine and it’s unfair to put that on them imo
No idea why they have gone to war with a Porsche Cayenne though.
Yeah I was just reporting what I heard here and also giving my view that Putin will not leave the country with (from his perception) less than he entered it with (Crimea which he considered Russian and Luzhansk/Donetsk which he considered independent). It is right for Ukraine to fight for this and it is wrong for him to take it. Ukraine will have to cause Russia to retreat to take those lands back though which is very hard to imagine.
Also with the damage done already things will not be normal anyway. We are probably past the point of ‘it can be solved with negotiations’.
I am not putting it on them, neither saying that they are doing anything wrong, those people are heroes.
Just predicting that this will go that way.
Not the Holocaust. I also don't think Russification compares to the Holodomor, in sheer horror. I get that many Ukrainians feel like this is the end, but I just don't think evoking the Holocaust even for an aggressive war of expansion is right. Putin is not going to try to exterminate the people of Ukraine, he just isn't.
This is pretty much what I think but I think he also wanted a puppet russian loving government in Ukraine but his thinking is that even without that, his worst case scenario still gives him what you have described and all this nuclear sabre rattling is just to scare everyone thus putting more pressure kn the west to back a better deal for russia to de-escalate.
Interesting points, time will tell if you are correct. Russian experts in the media who have followed Putin for years don't seem to agree that his ambitions stop at part of Ukraine.
Assuming you have kids, we'll rather sacrifice your mom and one kid, you can keep your dad and the other kid.
I doubt he could even start a nuclear war considering what we have seen so far from the Russian military.
Do we have to keep posting Marco Rubio tweets? It's not like they have any new information, it's literally just Marco Rubio's take on events.
I agree with you. If Russias conditions are honestly just independence for the 2 breakaway regions, recognition of Crimea as russian and ukranian neutrality. Ukraine should take that.
The left guy seems oddly familiar. Think he's in one of the photos in this thread posing with Kadyrov, iirc, must be high ranking.
Well written and sounds like a very likely outcome
Yes. His tweets are grounded in far more reality than any other tweeter in this thread.