The eerie noise of the missile in the air before it hits sounds frightening in itself.
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The eerie noise of the missile in the air before it hits sounds frightening in itself.
That large backlog of Russian hardware is still getting coverage.
It would suggest that they have superiority in the air and are very confident in their current position.
Id say it’s pretty telling it hasn’t been attacked sadly
It would suggest that they have superiority in the air and are very confident in their current position.
Id say it’s pretty telling it hasn’t been attacked sadly
isnt there issues with the Ukrainian forces getting ammunition and supplies through?
I watched a feature on BBC today from their BBC Russia office in Moscow (I think). Interviewed one deranged lunatic meant to be an MP and another babushka who just watches TV and believes that there's no way they're bombing Kharkiv. Asked for evidence, she just said there's no way and that was that. A true Trump supporter level of reasoning (for lack of a better description).
Now, you may think this is exaggerating things for sensationalism from the BBC but I can really believe it. And if this is in Moscow where they have internet, etc., what do people in the villages think?
I have always thought that Putin stands a good chance at getting elected in a normal democratic process (obviously not now). The thinking in those parts of the world is just so focussed on a victim complex and constantly blaming others for your failures.
This may not be so with young people but in that sense, I think Russia's similar to the US. Millennials and younger just don't yield the power.
With everything being shutdown and blocked, isn't it just going to encourage people to make extra efforts to find out why?
Is there?
I just thought Russia has no issue in leaving a huge target out in the open now. It suggests they control the air and don’t fear any missile attacks
Via telephones and the Internet generally. I’m not being facetious.
If you don’t have visa-free access to a country, citizens will or should be engaging their embassy to ensure they can enter a neighbouring one. Most embassies will do this automatically in such a situation, so Nigeria would agree with Hungary/EU to give their citizens visa-free access. I imagine in such cases that such citizens would still have a fair bit of paperwork that needs to be done.
Those who have watched/listened to those already know why. But it's going to be harder for them to gather necessary information.
And the Streisand effect actually struggles in authoritarian police states from time to time.
It would be pragmatism rather than capitulation.
Europe might be able to tolerate a summer of record high energy prices. But would they able to do the same over a freezing winter where families and pensioners can no longer afford to heat their homes?
The current public outrage is being fuelled by seeing bombs exploding on TV. Assuming that Ukraine can eventually be quelled and civilians are no longer being killed in their dozens, I think we'll see eventually see a lot of western governments backing down from sanctions. If they don't, they'd be at serious risk of losing their next elections.
It's a distasteful thought, but that's the way the world works. It's also why Germany waited so long to make the decision on NS2. If they could have avoided it they would have, since it was never in their own best interest. The same principle applies to everyone else's sanctions (including the UK).
For precedent, just look at all the oil the world gets from Saudi Arabia. What they're doing in Yemen is arguably worse than Russia in Ukraine. And yet the world tolerates it.
Isn't it generally a policy to look after your own people before those of another nation?
Also, what have/are the countries of the others doing to help?
Faced with his own mortality I don’t think we can say for definite how far he would go. Doesn’t seem to care about anyone but himself.
Looks like Kherson may have fallen
Most likely true, however they havent exactly been running a smooth operation so far.
Not everyone is equal, apparently.
The Russians have control of it (or at a minimum a vast majority of it). That's not to say they can hold it once an insurgency begin to take shape.
The only threat directly to the UK is the one that looms over the world. The nuclear option. Absolutely zero chance to any invasion or bombing from the air.
A lot of talk today about war crimes from within the Ukraine.
I think the repeat pleas for a no fly zone highlights they have lost the air to Russia too (along with the huge unchallenged Russia force)
I think we are in the final days before seeing the capital in Russia hands and mass destruction.
I think the repeat pleas for a no fly zone highlights they have lost the air to Russia too (along with the huge unchallenged Russia force)
I think we are in the final days before seeing the capital in Russia hands and mass destruction.
If the BBC report is correct that it's mostly just logistics packages then it wouldn't make sense to target it with their limited firepower. None of that stuff can shoot at you. Focus on destroying the things that can.
At the same time… things that shoot at you can’t without logistics
You’d cut off the supply line for sure
I think the combination of what we are seeing and hearing from Ukraine today is ominous
Do we really think China are going to sit by and watch putin press the nuclear button and send the world back to the Stone Age? They got a big stake in this getting sorted.
Sadly I feel Ukraine will get fecked in the coming days / weeks. Russia have too much in house
Hard to say, but one thing for certain is that Xi Xinping thinks himself as the next incarnation of Mao and is exerting a level of power unseen since Mao. That is dangerous.
How can the average Russian go about their daily business at this point.
At least buying gas from them now will be super cheap
In every past war supply lines come later on, when the enemy is deeper into your territory and running out if supplies. 5 days in and a few km from the border doesn't yet meet that. Better for them to go for the forces who are actually in the fight right now.
But you are right, Ukraine won't hold out forever and it looks like Russia has changed tactics.
Move on. Childish name calling doesn't advance the discussion and are just a distraction. If anything we are saving you from failing at the first hurdle due to Godwin's Law.
It’s inevitable Kharkiv and Mariupol fall soon - they’ve already held out way longer than expected and you’d expect Kyiv will follow. I think the hope is it’s clear Ukraine hasn’t really committed the bulk of its army anywhere yet either and they could be in the West preparing a more defensible front line which will have access to NATO supplies and be much harder to break through given a Russia can’t come in behind them this time.
I feel attacked
At least buying gas from them now will be super cheap
I think the days of any country trading with Russia, particularly for gas and oil are over. Unless they agree to a complete regime change and a more pro European stance, I see most of the world turning it's back on Russia for at least 20 years.
Wow
Which would make a West-East split of Ukraine more likely.
Sakes....
Someone has to bomb that convoy