Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Unless the West is cornered into loosening the sanctions or not going any further by the threat of nukes. Some seem to think this will eventually happen. It's a tough situation.
No way that happens now. The writing is on the wall all over Europe if they were to do that.
 
Who would have thought the original N word wouldn't even be the most alarming N word to use in 2022
 
Some thought about Nuclears, I don't think anyone really counts to the tee where and how many each have, for all we know several thousands could still be unaccounted. That's discounting the black market.

There are verification procedures built into the treaties. Destroyed items have to be shown in plain sight on the ground so that the other sides satellites can image them etc.
 
You really think so? He just crushed the demos last year. Not likely to be any democratic elections there any time soon.
Not soon but 10 years? 20? 30? It will happen if Russia doesnt keep it under its control. The Russians controlled Czech for what 40 years until they managed to get him out
 
30 Nukes are enough to destroy all the people in this planet.
of course not.

In fact, it is close to virtually certain that even detonating all the nukes that exist right now (13-14k) won't destroy all the people in the planet. Some will survive.

It gets trickier if states start developing salted nuclear weapons (with cobalt). In that case, probably the entire life is toast (similar to Dr. Strangelove).
 
Anybody who thinks countries should have nuclear weapons needs their head looking at. Absolutely no need for them and this invasion has shown that, because without Russia's threat of them this war is over.
Without Ukraine handing them over, this invasion never happens.
 
Oh, it’s a different point. Wealthy kids that have their parents pay for Eton & the likes are, mostly, children of Putin’s elite. This is absolutely justified (well, almost as there’s this children not being responsible for the actions of his parent ethical conundrum… but it’s their parent’s money).

I’m talking about genuine student scholarships that you have to work for to get one. They’re cancelling them all over Europe.

It's probably not done centrally though?! Maybe just a lot of institutions that want to pause their cooperation with the Russian side or they think they'd rather spend the money on Ukraine directly.
 
That's what worries me. I don't think for a minute that Putin will actually use his. He is a tyrant who has made a big mistake with Ukraine but he's not a lunatic. If a genuine loose cannon like Kim Jong Un gets his hands on them though?

He's a puppet of China and as far as I konw, China has absolutely zero interest in anybody nuking anybody. That's the beauty of globalisation: In an interconnected world, you can't hurt somebody seriously without hurting yourself as well.
 
of course not.

In fact, it is close to virtually certain that even detonating all the nukes that exist right now (13-14k) won't destroy all the people in the planet. Some will survive.

It gets trickier if states start developing salted nuclear weapons (with cobalt). In that case, probably the entire life is toast (similar to Dr. Strangelove).

I had to check the numbers, 528 have been detonated above ground and 1,528 under during the period testing was allowed + NK etc since.
 


Even pretty outdated plants are designed to be able to take impacts. I know the more modern ones in the UK are designed to be able to withstand a direct hit by an airliner and will gracefully shutdown if such an impact or anything close is registered on sensors.

To cause a meltdown, they will need to take intentional actions which would be an act of war on not just Ukraine considering the implications.
 
That's what worries me. I don't think for a minute that Putin will actually use his. He is a tyrant who has made a big mistake with Ukraine but he's not a lunatic. If a genuine loose cannon like Kim Jong Un gets his hands on them though?
He has his hands on them already.
 
I hate to break it, but North Korea already have nuclear warheads and they now seem to have the delivery system. He won't use them though unless he really does want to meet the grave.

Fortunately nothing that is yet plentiful or reliable enough.
 
of course not.

In fact, it is close to virtually certain that even detonating all the nukes that exist right now (13-14k) won't destroy all the people in the planet. Some will survive.

It gets trickier if states start developing salted nuclear weapons (with cobalt). In that case, probably the entire life is toast (similar to Dr. Strangelove).

What about the radiation? I have never seriously considered this, but wouldn't detonating ie 1000 nukes effectively end life via radiation? The same way as the initial asteroid strike killed some of the dinosaurs and the consequences of the ensuing cloud killed what was left of them?
 
Latvia and Estonia are already part of NATO, and Finland are probably joining. I don't know how you expect your opinion on the "whole reason for the war" seriously when you don't even know that the Baltic countries are in NATO. It's pretty fundamental to the conflict.

Also, how could Belarus act a West leaning politician when they aren't a democracy? If they were a democracy they wouldn't be helping Russia invade Ukraine.
Yes thanks I stand corrected. It was Sweden and Finland that Russia threatened. Its still a battle between Russian and Western democracy. Belarus cant elect a West leaning politician but they can protest and try and oust the current administration. Just like Czech did. Im not a historian or political expert but as I work in Czech I see the influence still of the Russian government and the battle between Russian and West democracies and the history of the influences of both sides. Russia cant all out attack these countries but they can try and destabilize them politically and vice versa in the case of Belarus.
 
They might have. That's the entire point of nukes, don't attack me or I use them.
Putin is the type that would sacrifice a city of two and then retaliate by sending them into oblivion.

If Ukraine used them the counter strike would end them as a nation after 5 minutes. Using them first will free Putin to strike back..
 
Even pretty outdated plants are designed to be able to take impacts. I know the more modern ones in the UK are designed to be able to withstand a direct hit by an airliner and will gracefully shutdown if such an impact or anything close is registered on sensors.

To cause a meltdown, they will need to take intentional actions which would be an act of war on not just Ukraine considering the implications.
12 of the 15 reactors were connected to the grid pre 1990 - so i wouldnt be too confident they align with the more modern standards