It really surprises me HK has had a problem with vaccination because when I lived there the problem was the other way around, an over prescription of medicines.
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It really surprises me HK has had a problem with vaccination because when I lived there the problem was the other way around, an over prescription of medicines.
My wife went to the cinema a couple of weeks ago and sat in the middle of two friends. A day later one of them tested positive. A day after that the other one did. As a result, we were extra cautious and she did more regular tests, but none of them came back positive. She must have a great immune response, because we were sure it'd finally get one of us.
Incidentally, one of those friends, despite still testing positive, was asked to return to work as they were short staffed. Honestly can't believe the idiocy of management at some places.
Incidentally, one of those friends, despite still testing positive, was asked to return to work as they were short staffed. Honestly can't believe the idiocy of management at some places.
Interesting comparison of New Zealand and Hong Kong as both try to manage omicron outbreaks having used zero covid strategies for the past couple of years. Basically it all comes down to vaccine uptake, in particular in the older groups.
I finally got covid after 2 years. Knocked me out on Sunday night - felt lightheaded as soon as i got on my feet. Since then, i've just had a migraine and backpain and now a bit of a stuffy nose.
I thought Pfizer and co were promising targeted boosters for the new variant within a 100 days? That seems to have all gone quiet now.
I thought Pfizer and co were promising targeted boosters for the new variant within a 100 days? That seems to have all gone quiet now.
We are expecting our deaths here in NZ to rise, we are still two weeks away from the predicted infections per day rate. Our booster uptake has been good but not great which I think is a bit of a worry. Big problems right now with work and public services being impacted by people off work sick. Also our hospitality industry is having its worst time since the pandemic began with people not going out as much during this surge.
However fingers crossed our high vaccine uptake can keep the deaths as low as possible. We are heading into winter in a couple of months and so many are wondering if we will have another surge when winter arrives.
Some data came out from animal studies showing no benefit from omicron specific vaccine over previous versions. That might have killed it.
I've had a back pain too. Had absolutely no idea it was a pretty common symptom.
It didn't hit me too hard in the end though, the sore throat was the worst of it.
I have explained the situation a year ago. What happening now is a predictable outcome.
The living condition in NZ and HK, especially that for elderly, is barely comparable.
Had it myself for a few days, started with a bit of a headache then a high temperature and a bit of vomiting. Can't work out where I got it from as I have been working from home for the last month and have barely been out other than essentials. There have many other situations where it wouldn't have surprised me, at work in small office it felt inevitable, but no I get it when I was almost already in isolation due to a project.
Doing a great job in kick starting my diet, no appetite at all, bowl of soup is tough to finish, have lost 5 KG in a week.
Doing a great job in kick starting my diet, no appetite at all, bowl of soup is tough to finish, have lost 5 KG in a week.
Dude, that’s mad…
90% of that will be water weight if he's ill.
Yes, it will be straight back on as soon I get past this. First couple days I think I ate half a round of toast and a couple of segment of a mandarin orange combined, could barely look at food, and with the vomiting even water was coming straight back up.
Feeling much better over the last 24 hours, but even now I barely have an appetite, was trying to convince myself to get a Pizza delivered but I would just look at it rather than eat the damn thing.
Hope you soon feel better matey.
Can I ask you about the back pain? I started feeling really ill last night in bed, waves of nausea, like acid reflux kinda thing, a headache and a dull ache in my stomach. This morning the pain in my stomach had gone and been replaced by this absolutely awful pain in my back and chest. Like I've been kicked in both places. Agony, pretty much and there's no way to find a comfortable position. I've barely got the energy to move, ache from head and foot and anytime the pain subsides my body tries to fall asleep. No desire to eat or drink anything. Thought this would surely be the time I finally tested positive, but nope. Does this sound like the sort of pain you were experiencing? Because I've never had chest pain like this before and I don't know if I should be ringing 111.
If you're debating about calling 111 and haven't felt pain like it, you should be calling it in my opinion whether it might be covid or not. That's what they're for and they can give you professional advice on whether someone needs to take a look.
Western Australia has finally opened its border after 2 years. Elsewhere QR code check ins are largely gone barring high risk location (hospitals, aged care and nightclubs) and masks are no voluntary in most places. Deaths are remaining low with the current daily running average about 30. Far too high but still better than most places.
I wasn't able to avoid Covid in my house in the end. Symptoms started yesterday and positive test today.
Restful weekend ahead. The only positives to this have been not having to go into the office last week because my house is full of Covid and I won't be going in this coming week as I've tested positive.
Restful weekend ahead. The only positives to this have been not having to go into the office last week because my house is full of Covid and I won't be going in this coming week as I've tested positive.
Sorry about the late reply, how are you feeling now?
My back pain wasn't as bad as yours, it was just a bit dull and a constant ache. Apart from the first day, I didn't have any aches anywhere else. It's all pretty much gone now, I had a fairly mild onset - I never had any chest pain at any point too.
Just had my first negative today, after testing positive at about 2am Tuesday morning. Probably had it from last Saturday though.
Thanks, how were your symptoms if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve managed to test positive right before I was due to fly home from Dubai, what a bastard! Had a negative test on Tuesday but then positive ones Sat/Sun. 10 days stuck in my room but apparently after 72 hours I can release myself with a negative PCR test. It’s given me some optimism but maybe I’m being too optimistic hoping to get some negative results so soon already
I was only “ill” so to speak for a day but tested positive for about 7 days
Is anyone from who had Omicron a few weeks/months ago suffering from covid-cough? A dry annoying bastard that seems to affect people with underlying allergies.
My 21 y.o. daughter (not the long covid one) has it chronically. The wife has it at a much lesser intensity.
My 21 y.o. daughter (not the long covid one) has it chronically. The wife has it at a much lesser intensity.
Thanks, how were your symptoms if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve managed to test positive right before I was due to fly home from Dubai, what a bastard! Had a negative test on Tuesday but then positive ones Sat/Sun. 10 days stuck in my room but apparently after 72 hours I can release myself with a negative PCR test. It’s given me some optimism but maybe I’m being too optimistic hoping to get some negative results so soon already
I had a high temperature, bit of a headache, then a few bouts of vomiting, with no appetite for about 3/4 days. First day was pretty rough, feverish, but then probably by the end of the second day I was feeling mostly fine, bit of a cough occasionally but nowhere near as often as I would have expected.
Do you mean after generally recovering from COVID? Or while having COVID? I had a much more severe cough in the more acute phase - and now since around 2 weeks ago (tested negative since then) have it occasionally. No allergies known. Very annoying. Intensifies in cold weather and when doing a little bit more than normal walking/sitting around.
That's probably it. My wife and daughter recovered from covid in December but the daughter gets bad fits when exposed to cold (which is a lot in the UK and she's a teaching assistant so has to get outside early).
Or when she's walked around a fair bit, again job requires it. I try to get her to see our GP but she keeps putting it off.
Let us know how you get on in the next few weeks. Hope you get better soon.
Currently on day six. Feeling ok really with a bit of a cough and tiredness. My smell has completely gone though now which is really strange to experience. Taste has definitely been impacted too but I've literally lost my ability to smell anything.
I finally got it. Bone and muscle aches all over, neck and back stiffness plus some high fever and violent coughing as a matter of fact so violent it ruptured my stomach muscle lining so the intestines are trying to leave my body. Two days of fevers well into 40°C. And now after two days a sore throat like I have never experienced before. Three Pfizers shots, but on immune suppressants because of my auto immune condition. This is an absolutely terrible fecking disease Omicron or not.
Think I’ve finally recovered about 8 days after I first tested positive. Started with a sore throat and I thought I was avoiding anything else but then I got back aches and bouts of just feeling really tired in the afternoon which was a pain for work as up until then I’d think I was fine. Eventually got what felt like an average cold. So not too bad all and all, I think the worst was the fact that it lasted so damn long, but thankfully I didn’t experience any loss of taste or smell.
in typical fashion my fiancé avoided getting it off me the whole week and just tested positive yesterday, the first day I tested negative.
in typical fashion my fiancé avoided getting it off me the whole week and just tested positive yesterday, the first day I tested negative.
Day 5 of covid and thankfully the cough and sore throat seem to have gone now. I do feel a tad bit achy, but hoping I should feel all good tomorrow. Unfortunately I did pass it on to my missus who is experiencing the worst of it now, but nothing overly concerning.
Generally the coughing wasn't too bad, even if it was pretty consistent but the sore throat was fecking horrible, certainly a the type of sore throat I've never had before.
Generally the coughing wasn't too bad, even if it was pretty consistent but the sore throat was fecking horrible, certainly a the type of sore throat I've never had before.
So I've been negative since Saturday (5 days after I first tested positive) and I decided to play football today - the first bit of real exercise I've done after having covid. I'll be honest, I've never had such a miserable time at football ever - I was so out of breath, after about 5 minutes in. This is the "easy" game of the week that I play as well - it's with a bunch of old timers, but I felt horrible. My heart felt like it was trying to drum out of my chest after any sprint or a bit of intensity. I've got my actual competitive 7 a-side game tomorrow, and I don't feel like playing now.
How long did it take you guys to get anywhere close to normal fitness again?
How long did it take you guys to get anywhere close to normal fitness again?
It took me 3 weeks or so to get back to normal and even now after 6 weeks I still have moments that I think to myself “I shouldn’t be this fecked after doing that”
It will pass just have to be patient!
I had this exact symptom - seemingly out of nowhere. It initially felt like a really bad stomach ache that also made my chest hurt them moved to my back. Was terrible for two days or so but when I took some naproxen (strong anti-inflammatory, recommended by the Doc) and by the end of the day it was gone. Came back slightly the day after and I took more tablets and they that was it.
Somewhat worrying reports of clonal antibodies, as a treatment for covid, is triggering resistance in some cases.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/syd...ance-to-common-treatment-20220309-p5a35j.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/syd...ance-to-common-treatment-20220309-p5a35j.html
It really does differ from person to person. A very good friend of mine who is a cross country runner got it and was in bed for two weeks,she was very, very poorly. However she went out for her first run after a week of testing clear and complained about tight chest, lack of stamina etc... She's now beating her personal best every week and winning regional competitions against people almost half her age.
I was really poorly with it for about a week but got my strength and stamina back after about a month. I'm walking 8-10 miles a day whenever possible. Yet I have anoter freind who I work with and he's stlill struggling for stamina months later. So it seems it varies from person to person. I will add that most people I know seem to recover on the quicker side, with many being back to normal in a couple of weeks to a month.
The only serious after effect I can notice personally after 3 months is I have developed severe insomnia and an extremely fecked up sleeping pattern.
Hopefully you recover quickly and get back to your footy best asap.
“Just a bad flu”
Not even.
Is that less lethal than Influenza in people who’ve also been vaccinated against Flu? If that makes sense… or is it just across society as a whole?
And if so (the latter), what percentage of the population are Influenza vaccinated vs what percentage are Coronavirus vaccinated?
Sorry for all the questions.
The latter. And only a tiny % of the population are influenza vaccinated.
So, in a world without vaccines there’s absolutely no doubt that covid would be a hell of a lot more lethal than influenza right now.
But that’s mainly because influenza’s been around for ages so even without vaccines there’s a good level of population immunity. As more and more time goes by the same will happen with SARS-CoV-2.
They're population level stats. If you go to the linked article they go deeper into how the pattern looks in different age groups. Broadly, some combination of infection and vaccination has moved us from a position where the IFR was worse than flu in every age group (and much worse for anyone over 40) to a position where the IFR is lower than for flu, even amongst the oldest.
The flu IFR is based on data from a study in New Zealand, where flu booster jab takeup is typically around 70% in the 65+ group. Keep in mind though, that's annual booster takeup - the number that have had a flu jab sometime will be higher, and almost all of them will have had flu multiple times as well. Covid vaccine takeup in the UK in the 65+ group is more than 95% and close to 100% in the over 70s.
What that means, looking at the UK whole population:
https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc59b
"For every 100,000 Omicron infections, 35 will result in death, while the equivalent number of flu infections will lead to 40 fatalities, the data showed. Even among the over-80s, where about one-in-200 Omicron infections still results in death, this figure is now lower than the equivalent for flu."
They are using "infections" in their analysis (rather than cases), and they base their infection numbers on the weekly ONS random survey, which means they pick up asymptomatic and unnoticed infections, as well as the recorded kind.
Keep in mind, we're talking about rates - if you've got lots of infections, you still get lots of deaths. That's where we're at now. Covid infection rates are currently much higher than the flu infections we see in a typical flu season and overall respiratory disease deaths are higher as well - despite the fact that we aren't really "back to normal" in terms of mixing and behaviour etc. As it happens, flu cases are low at the moment, presumably because we aren't actually back to normal.
The bad flu brigade were way ahead of their time.