Ukraine scandal update: President plans to cover country with an oxygen tent which he says will give it "sexual powers"
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Ukraine scandal update: President plans to cover country with an oxygen tent which he says will give it "sexual powers"
This will be good.
Yeah, crossed my mind as well. That's concerning
Dunno if it's been posted already, but haha.
How long until the severity of these sanctions start to affect us?
I disagree. This russian conflict is not the only one documented on Twitter. In recent years I've been following the Taliban reassurance to power. You'd have generals and analyst talk about resistance of Panjshir and how the Taliban government is about to topple any day now.
@TMDaines do you feel any less embarrassed to be British yet by the way? Given the massive fund raising efforts?
United had no choice but to drop Aeroflot. They can’t even provide a minibus service, let alone do flights, outside of Russia right now. United should never have been in such a sponsorship arrangement in the first place. Them having to drop a sponsor like this, one hiding in plain sight, has been damning. It’s been a disaster for Richard Arnold early on in the job, because it was one of his deals even, set up in his previous role.
Every other club I have seen (and maybe there are other outliers) have shown solidarity with Ukraine, whether that is through banners being flown before kick-off, flags carried out onto the pitch, special t-shirts, the involvement of Ukrainian fan groups, etc. Unless you saw Harry Maguire’s PL-mandated captain’s armband in the colours of Ukraine, you would have not been able to draw a link with United’s message and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The cynic in me says someone is worrying about other sponsors in other markets.
It’s the difference between Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter. We know all lives matter, we know that war is terrible and serves virtually nobody, but this is supposed to be a show of solidarity to a specific group of people.
Put it this way, the Russian and Chinese censors would have had nothing to hide from the empty gesture United offered today.
Did you watch the game? A minutes applause before kick off in solidarity of Ukraine. The players standing around the semi circle mixed with each other. Flags/banners/armbands and messages put up on the main screen in Etihad. It was a good united showing for Ukraine.
We’re not particular outliers in this. It’s the same in most of Europe. The funds other countries have generated and – more importantly – the direct interventions individual citizens and organisations have made in those neighbouring countries dwarves our national contribution.
It sums up Britain as a collective that in recent years we continually vote for unprogressive governments that are eroding our social care and welfare systems, whilst making our immigration policy ever more cruel and restrictive, whilst also patting ourselves on the back at our charitable efforts if we are privileged enough to be able to afford that. Nothing is more bizarre than the pride in the growth of food banks in this country.
More importantly, we have so far granted around around 50 visas to Ukrainian residents since this crisis began. We have literally turned people away at our borders to stop them seeking refuge with blood relatives in the UK. Moldova, the poorest country in Europe, has opened its borders to over 200,000 people and is still hosting 96,000 of them. More arrive every minute of every day.
Our contribution to the humanitarian aspects of this crisis can best be described as throwing a few quid at the situation to alleviate the guilt at someone else actually taking care of the problem.
So, yes. I am generally embarrassed to be British right now. Priti Patel and Boris Johnson may be willing to tell Ukrainians they are doing all they can to help them through this. I can’t look my family and friends in the eye and tell them the same.
I sense you’re definitely the glass half empty guy anyway.
The total opposite to me. That’s why I’m irritated.
Fair enough.
I'm not sure but it feels like we've been slipped into a violent Power Rangers style reality TV show with malfunctioning robot playing Biden's role. Some Red Dwarf episodes where they stumble back into something that looks like Earth but not quite remind me of our reality.
That whole thread is fecked up. I want to get off this ride...
Russia scraping the barrel... Logistics has gone to shit.
This is embarrassing.You know this doesn't suprise and this is what I mean by people in democracies needing to take responsibility.
Whoever voted for the Conservatives better not come out and say they didn't know who or what these people are.
Today I even heard that Johnson said leaders need to follow their words with actions. I genuinely laughed. The irony is too much.
Kind of crazy that in this fascist war, they even made their own swastika.
‘Z’ gaining some swastika vibes.
If a diplomatic solution is reached, how does Putin justify domestically that he negotiated with Nazi's?
What the hell is this?
Hah, not massively. I try to not swing too much either way with unbridled positivity or overwhelming negativity whether that be with analysing United or watching these events unfold. I do tend to want to scratch beyond the headlines and scorelines though.
The problem with our Government is that they love their PR and big claims, but they can never deliver on the underlying policy. Sometimes deliberately. Priti Patel mentioned 100,000, then 200,000 refugees the other day, and people seem to think they are already in the country. Nobody can get in!
The third party who ran the only visa centre in Ukraine, in Lviv, shut up shop, completely unannounced by the Home Office today. I know because our in-laws are trying to get their visas sorted there. The BBC only caught up with the news in the last few hours. The Home Office and the firms we outsource our visa processing to are a national disgrace at the best of times, but this last week is a new low.
Here is another train with Z marked civilian trucks that have been taken by the Russian army to ease their logistics crisis. The Ukrainians need to keep doing what they are doing. Hit every truck they see with everything they have. Tanks don't matter if they are out of fuel, out of ammo or abandoned by soldiers off in search off a meal...
By all accounts the visa issue is far from great and I share your frustration in that regard. That said I think the way the British people have responded is superb and deserves credit. I also think the UK has been far more proactive and forthcoming in its direct military support (weapons and training for the UA). The rest of Europe has acted very late on this with some countries still twiddling their thumbs.
All things considered being “embarrassed to be British” seems utterly over the top, inflammatory and out of proportion to me. Yes there’s plenty to do and improve but we’ve actually done much more than most and that’s been recognised by Ukrainians and other threatened nations in the region.
I know what you mean but it's hard to feel any glass half full vibes when people are being bombed where they live. I'm with @TMDaines , I don't feel our governments are doing enough, especially the UK with all the benefits of Russian money in London. Our governments are talking a good game is all in my opinion. It's probably not the thread for it though.
Considering TikTok is Chinese owned, I wonder if this is them doing Putin a favour and stopping all the live streams and videos coming out of Ukraine which are compromising their propaganda?