Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

I don't really think the outside world can realistically cut Russia off the global internet. Pretty much everyone would have to agree not to route from Russian IPs - seems unfeasible to me.
I’m not technically savvy enough to understand the whole process but I believe the idea is to stop it at physical points of entry. But it’s near impossible as there are so many — unlike, say, in Belarus’, where most of the traffic in and out of the country comes through the same bottleneck. I may be talking nonsense.
 
Appreciate that and I will accept that my perception of politicians has been adversely affected by the actions of Boris Johnson.
What I am slightly confused with is that the West has a policy of isolating Putin.
And added to that, the appalling actions happening in Ukraine.
So to have a senior leader talk to Putin for hours on the phone just seemed to me to be more than just keeping an open line of communication, should Putin suddenly have a change of heart. But what do I know.

Russia aren't isolated though. You need to make a difference between the appearance that many leaders have chosen and what they actually do, the US still have an embassy in Moscow and the argument from Blinken was actually that there is a need to maintain diplomatic contacts.

From a diplomatic standpoint you will need two levels of communication, one between leaders(or at least some of them) and an other between foreign offices with envoys having direct contact with Lavrov's office.
 
Yeah, it doesn't look like he believes it at all, he's just repeating what is being said so the world can see what shit Putin is spouting.

Le Drian, the foreign minister, said that Putin and Lavrov say everything and its opposite. They definitely don't believe them at all.
 
I’m not technically savvy enough to understand the whole process but I believe the idea is to stop it at physical points of entry. But it’s near impossible as there are so many — unlike, say, in Belarus’, where most of the traffic in and out of the country comes through the same bottleneck. I may be talking nonsense.
I'm not an expert either. Stopping physical points of entry can be done but I don't think it's feasible for a country with an area of 17 million square kilometres. And then there's satellite access, too.

I mean, Europe still didn't stop buying Russian oil and gas so undertaking the massive operation of trying to cut Russia off the internet entirely seems pretty fecking unlikely.
 
They won't get everyone in Russia off the net, but they could piss off a good chunk of the population. Enough to start a revolution, which you'd assume is the goal here.

Netflix and Tik-Tok have stopped working in Russia, that alone will mobilize thousands.
 
Well like i said I'm going off several Chinese friends in China including the son of a very senior regional official. I get a very open view from them, good and bad, on what normal people think so I'll trust that over distant musings unless you're in China yourself.

The issue is relying on their heavily bias media to guess the views of others. Can you imagine what people would think if they just took Daily Mail and Fox News as sources. Even then you'll find peace and respecting sovereignty pushed, that's as much of a slam to Russia as you'll get. They're not calling it a military operation or any of that bollocks.

They've been censoring pro russia comments for some time on Weibo. The most support you'll get is they source RT too much so stories like Zelenskyy fleeing Ukraine will make their media.
I am not doubting your source, but I think one reason to explain could be, your friends there `would try to sound more "open-minded" when speaking from their own opinion to a friend from the West - as they all know how strong the West are against the war and Russian.

But if you could read Chinese, you would see from Weibo, majority of comments from average Chinese aligns with what I've said from above. But there are some voice against this and aligns more to the West of course, but they are far from majority.
 
That will turn China against them for sure.

The official one calls it out as a territory of China. That guy is just paraphrasing.

Micronesia on the list too, I'm sure their sanctions must really sting :lol:
 
All things considered, they have a pretty decent military. But it's for defensive purpose.
Well if it can shoot or sink things...probably what is meant by "defensive" is that they lack power projection capability with logistics support etc. But also all their interest are in their region so that's not necessary.
 
The official one calls it out as a territory of China. That guy is just paraphrasing.
Nope. It’s on the government document — Тайвань (= Taiwan), without any additional clarification.
 
Well if it can shoot or sink things...probably what is meant by "defensive" is that they lack power projection capability with logistics support etc. But also all their interest are in their region so that's not necessary.
And if I'm correct, they're still under the US umbrella anyway.
 
Even San Marino is out for blood :lol:
Which is a shame. At some point last year, I think, we’ve signed an agreement with them that Russians don’t need a visa to visit San Marino. The issue is, the only way to get to San Marino from Russia without stepping foot on Italian soil (with whom we haven’t got such agreement) was to jump from a plane that’s flying over it as they don’t have their own airport.
 
Which is a shame. At some point last year, I think, we’ve signed an agreement with them that Russians don’t need a visa to visit San Marino. The issue is, the only way to get to San Marino from Russia without stepping foot on Italian soil (with whom we didn’t have such an agreement) was to jump from a plane that’s flying over it as they don’t have their own airport.
:lol:
 
Which is a shame. At some point last year, I think, we’ve signed an agreement with them that Russians don’t need a visa to visit San Marino. The issue is, the only way to get to San Marino from Russia without stepping foot on Italian soil (with whom we didn’t have such an agreement) was to jump from a plane that’s flying over it as they don’t have their own airport.
Not an unlikely scenario.
 
What makes you say that?

Early in February he was saying there was no indication Putin was going to invade (despite what the Americans were saying)
In the hours leading up to the invasion Macron proudly announced he was agreeing diplomatic solutions with Putin (despite what the Americans were saying)
After the invasion Macron said he had assurances from Putin attacks on civilians and evacuation routes would not happen (despite what the Americans were saying)

He believes whatever Putin tells him, though i think from recent reports he's finally beginning to realise he is being played.
 
Nope. It’s on the government document — Тайвань (= Taiwan), without any additional clarification.

Oh i take that back then, the English translation maybe corrected it or the graphic i came across was fake.

That seems deliberate, would be a huge mistake otherwise.
 
Early in February he was saying there was no indication Putin was going to invade (despite what the Americans were saying)
In the hours leading up to the invasion Macron proudly announced he was agreeing diplomatic solutions with Putin (despite what the Americans were saying)
After the invasion Macron said he had assurances from Putin attacks on civilians and evacuation routes would not happen (despite what the Americans were saying)

He believes whatever Putin tells him, though i think from recent reports he's finally beginning to realise he is being played.

Putin seems to be pretty good at these mind games but terrible at actually reigning a country judging by the state of their economy and military. Fake it till you make it.