Russians moving more troops to Ukraine?
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Let's say Austria gets attacked by Russia. And Austria invokes EU clause. Germany, Italy, and France (maybe more) will have to help Austria. But at that point, I'm not sure NATO is obliged to help France or Germany when they suffer reprisals. It will be up to the other NATO members (US, UK..) to interpret the situation. After all NATO countries don't have to help you when you are in "attack mode".
There are not many F-22s built and the project has been canceled. That’s why the US won’t transfer them to any other country cause they need them for themselves.
I agree that the average Russian is also a victim in this mess, but their plight pales in comparison to the Ukrainians who are literally being killed or watching their family be killed. Every last thing that might help one additional Russian open their eyes, take to the streets and put just a little bit more pressure on Putin's regime is worth it, in my opinion. I admit that may not be all that thought-through or nuanced, but the sanctions are meant to make it hurt for the Russian economy, so might as well pile one.
I think it's fairly clear what he was doing.
Churchill:
"We shall go on to the end...we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight...in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills"
Zalensky:
"We will fight till the end, at sea, in the air. We will continue fighting for our land, whatever the cost. We will fight in the forests, in the fields, on the shores, in the streets."
What are they supposed to do, stand in the way?
The BBC reports:
"Here in Moscow, the mood is sombre amongst many Russians.
The invasion of Ukraine – which the Kremlin insists should be called a ‘special military operation’ – has resulted in crippling Western sanctions which are hitting the economy hard.
The impact on ordinary Russians is already being felt.
Russia’s currency, the ruble, has crashed, and prices for a whole range of goods and services are rising fast - including travelling abroad.
Foreign travel itself is now much harder – the US, EU and others have closed their airspace to Russian aircraft. Thousands of young, educated Russians have already left the country.
Several large Russian supermarkets are limiting the number of basic goods people can buy at one time. In one shop I saw a notice stating: 'Only one 5kg bag of sugar per person'. The government says this is to limit black market dealing and inflation.
The list of Western companies pulling out of Russia grows ever longer. In shopping centres in central Moscow, many Western shops are shuttered; others cannot accept card payments.
Before the invasion, Moscow was one of the most technologically advanced and well-connected cities in the world – with a first-class system of streaming services, online payments, tech and digital services. Using cash was rare. But with companies such as Apple, Visa and Netflix curtailing or shutting down in Russia, these services are grinding to a halt."
"Here in Moscow, the mood is sombre amongst many Russians.
The invasion of Ukraine – which the Kremlin insists should be called a ‘special military operation’ – has resulted in crippling Western sanctions which are hitting the economy hard.
The impact on ordinary Russians is already being felt.
Russia’s currency, the ruble, has crashed, and prices for a whole range of goods and services are rising fast - including travelling abroad.
Foreign travel itself is now much harder – the US, EU and others have closed their airspace to Russian aircraft. Thousands of young, educated Russians have already left the country.
Several large Russian supermarkets are limiting the number of basic goods people can buy at one time. In one shop I saw a notice stating: 'Only one 5kg bag of sugar per person'. The government says this is to limit black market dealing and inflation.
The list of Western companies pulling out of Russia grows ever longer. In shopping centres in central Moscow, many Western shops are shuttered; others cannot accept card payments.
Before the invasion, Moscow was one of the most technologically advanced and well-connected cities in the world – with a first-class system of streaming services, online payments, tech and digital services. Using cash was rare. But with companies such as Apple, Visa and Netflix curtailing or shutting down in Russia, these services are grinding to a halt."
No, it’s because it would be illegal to transfer them. Most of the US’ best military equipment is blocked from being transferred to other countries by statute. It’s moot generally because nobody else could afford to operate the planes/ships, but it’s still the reason that they can’t be exported.
Japan and Israel were interested in the F22 back in development, but they knew they would never be able to buy them.
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Yes, you kind of f*** us with Brexit. But the EU is still a very large continent with many fronts. I don't think anyone wants to be fighting against the combined navy power of Italy, Spain, and France. And with Germany finally starting to make the necessary investments, it will be even less likely someone will want to attack an EU country.
And then, if EU is at war, Ireland will be at war... UK will have to join.
Exactly that. The Polish AF primary fighter jet is the F16 Falcon.
Their Mig 29 jets are quite a bit bigger and has twin engines. They are also to a standard compliant with NATO in terms of communication and weapons systems.
But they are older than the F16, which is single engine, smaller and more agile.
You transfer it to SW Germany. How will you get it to Ukraine? American pilots or they truck it over?
What's it got to do with 'breaking' people??
Surely we should question everything from all sides, not just from one?
They are already having their wages tanked by the Ruble’s drop.
He also threw in a Shakespeare reference for good measure. Clearly an attempt to pull on the heartstrings of the British politicians which was a smart move.
Let Ukraine fly sorties out of Rammstein? That might cause some trouble, though.
Good.
I can see the Russians now ramping up their attacks on landing strips/bases ahead of this. Why the Ukrainian air force bases are not out of commission yet is a mystery.
On top of everything else, the dog image hurts a lot.
So it’s not going to really achieve anything then, it’s a historic moment in parliament but that’s it
Everything you’ve stated that could occur as a result of this speech are all things that would probably happen anyway
More sanctions are always going too occur
There’s already been a backlash on the visa situation so naturally that would increase
And support for Ukraine is their anyway except involving our militaries
My post didn’t have a point, it was a question
What would this speech achieve, I’m not criticising the Ukraine president doing the speech, I’m just curious as to what it would actually achieve, in truth the Ukraine president is just going to probably get the same response as before which deep down isn’t enough from his perspective.
The historic rally call it was being built up too be has essentially turned out to be a pointless round of applause where the end product is what we were doing in the first place and were going too do.
There’s certainly no harm in any of it of course, but he’s not going to get his NFZ from it which is what he really wants above most other sanctions
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Ukrainian pilots
Yeah that got me in the feels too. I had been wondering about any animals that were/are in zoos or sanctuaries and weather there was enough time to get them out before the invasion. Because if not they must be terrified by the explosions and gunfire. It's the same with children as well, both are too innocent to understand what's going on right now.
A lot of Greeks say thatthe only bit I'm interested in is the Swedish part, ignoring his framing of it.
Then you should not quote the moron. You can easily find the same news elsewhere, haha!
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.
But it all seems so staged. The kid started singing so perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
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-As if any of this terrible shit would be staged. Insanity.
Heard some awful stories about zoos around Kyiv.
US: Unknown individuals snuck into Rammstein AFB and stole all of these newly acquired, fully loaded out MiG-29s that we just finished refueling. We have no idea how it happened and will begin an investigation into how these mistakes occurred.
Convenience, and I agree with him on other topics (not his handling of the Greek economy).
I'm dreading asking what stories?
Was the F-15 originally but its now well advanced to to the point that its direct competitor now is the SU-35 although the SU-35 is a pretty modern fighter by Russian standards. F-35 is probably a bit above them both.
Pretty much nothing China or Russia has touches the F-22 which is why pretty much the US pulled the pin on the setup because it was just pointless producing an aircraft at that cost with little to no competition and the world heading towards drone plane in the future anyway. The F-22 will probably be the last all out air superiority fighter jet produced by the the USA. The future will look more like the F-35 (multi role) if at all.
Being basically abandoned for the time being.
Russian radar seeing fighter jets enter Ukraine from NATO airspace sounds dodgy to me. Wouldn't they instead be crated up and trucked into Ukraine?
wearing Manchester United kits no doubt.And strangely one pilot was overheard quoting Chappy Sinclair: God doesn't give people talents that he doesn't want people to use. And he gave you The Touch. It's a power inside of you, down there where you keep your guts boy. It's all you need to blast your way in and get back what they took from you.
Is that legit or just rumors?
Getting trucked in would probably result in the Russians picking them off. If they fly in from Germany, they can make the excuse that they picked them up and were allowed to flyover NATO territory en route back to Ukraine.
Heard such on MSNBC while doing other shit, but made me pause. There’s also stories of animals that have made it safely to Poland, so let’s focus on those guys. Better than the alternative.
There must be a good reason why the Polish Mig 29 jets are being sent to Ramstein Base prior to transfer to Ukraine. I understand that these aircraft are to a NATO communication and weapon systems standard. And possibly there is a need to remove certain parts in case some of them get shot down and fall into Russian hands.
But you make a good point.