Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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In Rainbows said:
It hasn't moved with me. I've never liked his brand of football, and always thought his attacking brand was a myth.
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If you revisit 2016/17, the season Spurs peaked under Pochettino and achieved second spot in the league you'll find they blew away the competition in terms of goals scored (86) and goals conceded (26).

That season they tied a club record for consecutive Premier League wins (9), most wins in a Premier League season (26), and the fewest defeats in a Premier League season (4). Harry Kane scored 29 goals despite missing months due to injury and won the Golden Boot for the 2nd straight year, and Spurs had three players – Kane, Dele Alli, Son score more than 20 goals in all competitions. He remains the only manager who got a tune out of Delle Alli.
 
Pochettino was never the right manager for PSG.I”m surprised that PSG went for him…I think that Zidane would probably be a great fit at PSG,and after getting rid of Pochettino they will most probably sign Zidane.Pochettino is a nurturer,he’s a man who stays at a club for 5-6 seasons and builds something tangible.He’s not a hit and run kind of a manager…
Pochettinos lack of success at PSG shouldn’t put us off in any way,he’s a terrific manager and I would be delighted if we signed him…
 
Just heard Ferdinand's interview with Poch. He has an air of authority amongst his squad of superstar players that RR hasn't quite nailed down with our squad yet.
 
We would waste another 3 years at least and hundred of millions in signing if he come to United
 
Was on the fence about Pochettino for a while, but no more.

What was the culture at Tottenham? Bottling when it counts.

What was the culture at PSG? Bottling key moments in the CL.

No ask what we've been for nearly a decade. All Poch has shown is that he isn't the man to come in, stamp his authority and change the trajectory of a club in a significant way (I get and appreciate what he did at Tottenham, but in the end, trophies are what count, especially for Manchester United). For whatever reason, he just isn't that guy. We need someone who's going to change this club, change the culture, the path we're on, whatever. He's shown he isn't the man to do that.
 
Pintu said:
The excuses are worse. Real concedes the equalizer and then they have 15 minutes to pick themselves up, but they don't do that. Poch let Madrid grow back into the game with no reaction. Ancelotti with an inferior squad managed to cause him so many problems in this second half.
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Inferior squad and 2 key players suspended too
 
United probably rubbing their hands at dream candidate Poch falling short again so can get him on the cheap.
 
DRJosh said:
Just heard Ferdinand's interview with Poch. He has an air of authority amongst his squad of superstar players that RR hasn't quite nailed down with our squad yet.
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Our squad is not full of superstar but is full of crybabies. Apart from Varane, Ronaldo and De Gea, i wouldn’t call any of them superstar.
 
As some posters have mentioned before me it's very hard to judge Poch on his time in PSG due to the fact it's an enormous circus.

However I will say that I feel he constantly and consistently makes ineffectual/ bad substitutions and mistakes in his line ups.

How a player like Gini Wijnaldum ( who has recently been an integral part of the Liverpool side that won the league and champions league, specializes in work rate, ball retention and dirty work) can sit on the bench while lesser players enter the field is beyond me.
 
DRJosh said:
Just heard Ferdinand's interview with Poch. He has an air of authority amongst his squad of superstar players that RR hasn't quite nailed down with our squad yet.
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Must be lots of hot air.
 
If we continue with our actual approach of giving overpaid divas way too much power than Pochettino might be a good choice. He surely will improve us and get our overrated squad to finish top 4.
Someone like ten Haag might only make sense if he (together with Rangnick etc. in the back) is allowed to make a proper rebuild and a reset of our current culture.
 
diarm said:
It's harsh to judge Poch on his failures while trying to manage squads full of egos and bottlers.

He'll obviously be much better when he gets to work with our current band of selfless warriors.
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For those claiming this isn’t on Poch. It kinda actually perfectly encapsulates everything that we won’t get if we get him.
The first surgery our team needs IS mentality. We have a financial power to compete but without a competitive mental state these buys are useless.

Put it another way, it’s mentality first and then skills. Klopp gets more out of players because of it. Great managers work on mindset first. Everyone who saw SAFs final three years and his overachievement can be testament.
 
They outplayed Real for 135 minutes. The same thing had happened with Tuchel against us. Dont see how it's Pochs fault that he has to play specific players, as Tuchel had to etc.

Psg are like us with more money spending and an easier league, so they always compete in CL. They have no strategy whatsoever.
 
marcus agrippa said:
Was on the fence about Pochettino for a while, but no more.

What was the culture at Tottenham? Bottling when it counts.

What was the culture at PSG? Bottling key moments in the CL.

No ask what we've been for nearly a decade. All Poch has shown is that he isn't the man to come in, stamp his authority and change the trajectory of a club in a significant way (I get and appreciate what he did at Tottenham, but in the end, trophies are what count, especially for Manchester United). For whatever reason, he just isn't that guy. We need someone who's going to change this club, change the culture, the path we're on, whatever. He's shown he isn't the man to do that.
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This is the first time they've bottled it under Poch in the CL though isn't it? Man City were just a better team than PSG last season, I don't think it was "bottling". The other bottlejobs were under Tuchel and Emery.
 
I feel both him and ETH are sort of underwhelming and come with question marks.

For Poch, he cant seem to take teams to winning things. His recent record hasn’t been great, and it might be the second sack for him in a short period of time. No doubt he’ll have more authority on the squad, given that he’s more of a ‘big name’ manager though.

For ETH, he’s only proven himself in the Dutch league, where there are 2 teams which compete for the title. But there’s more hope with him because of his potential. But whether that potential might be realised or not, is a different question. Also, given how Rangnick has been treated so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our players are ‘unhappy’ with him and the same shit happens again as this season, with rumours of discontent and leaks. Also, we would have to replace a lot of players to suit his style, and this might take a couple of seasons. I highly doubt people would be willing to be patient for this.
 
Amadaeus said:
The hate for Pochettino is so strong on this forum :lol: or people are just scared that I will be right again :lol:. How is it quiet on how when United board was keeping a close eye on this game and saw how they battered real Madrid. Our board must be really impressed after that performance. The problem now, is that it makes it harder to get him
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Is it the perfect time to bring up this car crash of a post yet?
 
marcus agrippa said:
Was on the fence about Pochettino for a while, but no more.

What was the culture at Tottenham? Bottling when it counts.

What was the culture at PSG? Bottling key moments in the CL.

No ask what we've been for nearly a decade. All Poch has shown is that he isn't the man to come in, stamp his authority and change the trajectory of a club in a significant way (I get and appreciate what he did at Tottenham, but in the end, trophies are what count, especially for Manchester United). For whatever reason, he just isn't that guy. We need someone who's going to change this club, change the culture, the path we're on, whatever. He's shown he isn't the man to do that.
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I think PSG have bottled the CL under a number of managers, to be fair. But I agree that Poch isn't the man for us - surely our minimum requirement is a man who has won something
 
Given the result against Real, I wouldn't be surprised if Poch ended up at United and Ronaldo went the other way. Both of which would not be good for United. The only question is whether PSG sack him or wait for United to come calling and save themselves paying off Poch's contract
 
The problem with hiring poch is that there isn't a universal agreement that he should be our manager from all our fans. He probably won't get the full support and backing from us.
 
edgecutter said:
The problem with hiring poch is that there isn't a universal agreement that he should be our manager from all our fans. He probably won't get the full support and backing from us.
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If the board cared about that, we wouldn't have had Moyes or possibly Jose
 
LoneStar said:
I feel both him and ETH are sort of underwhelming and come with question marks.

For Poch, he cant seem to take teams to winning things. His recent record hasn’t been great, and it might be the second sack for him in a short period of time. No doubt he’ll have more authority on the squad, given that he’s more of a ‘big name’ manager though.

For ETH, he’s only proven himself in the Dutch league, where there are 2 teams which compete for the title. But there’s more hope with him because of his potential. But whether that potential might be realised or not, is a different question. Also, given how Rangnick has been treated so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our players are ‘unhappy’ with him and the same shit happens again as this season, with rumours of discontent and leaks. Also, we would have to replace a lot of players to suit his style, and this might take a couple of seasons. I highly doubt people would be willing to be patient for this.
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I agree with this, either are risks, ETH might be the preferred option for many, mainly due to his attacking and aggressive football style, but it is not guaranteed it will work here with this squad unless a major overhaul takes place.
 
Freak result after playing some great football for the majority of 2 legs.

Typical PSG how many times do they throw away a European lead?
 
Talk about "intensity", doesn't feel like there's any intensity coming from him on the PSG bench. He looks like he barely cares.

And did I hear him talk about how the Premier League is the greatest league in the world, before a CL tie invloving his PSG and Real Madrid? :lol:

Most blatant flinging oneself at the Man United job since Mourinho post CL quarters 2013
 
You can tell if a manager has an aura and has a personality big enough to manage a big club. Then you see poch on the sidelines with psg and he looks like a puppy. I get it you have prima donnas in your team still you need to impose yourself. Just say what you need to say and do things you need to do no matter what. You are the manager you can’t be this weak. You need to have some minerals about you. What’s the worse that can happen ? They won’t listen to you or you will be sacked ? Well, fine then but don’t bloody cower. They aren’t listening to you anyway atleast show some balls and be yourself. He looks shit scared to say anything to them. Tuchel didn’t have that much authority either but he didn’t just look like he is about to cry, he was still vocal and wasn’t overwhelmed, he was still screaming and shouting from the touchline. He never looked this hopeless and shit scared.

You can’t be a weak character and meek personality at a big club. Look at all the managers our rivals have pep, klopp, tuchel. No wonder you don’t command respect and authority if you look like a puppy on the sidelines. The issue with poch at psg is, he is fine looking like a victim rather than it’s my way or high way uncompromising in his beliefs and ideals kind of manager. His acceptance of being run over by these psg players is so bloody evident. Just like the players only talent won’t make you a winner unless you have the mindset and have the arrogance about you. Name me a successful manager who doesn’t have that self belief and assuredness about him.

As talented as psg are, I am still not gonna judge poch purely based on results there. I’m okay with that as we all know that club is rotten but what I’m not okay with is his lack of character and lack of cojones to even do anything. For me, his stint at PSG didn’t expose his talent as a manager but it exposed his lack of personality and authority as a manager. I would have respected him far far more if he had some ego and self respect about him and tried to be brave and tried to impose himself rather than looking like a wet wipe.
 
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LoneStar said:
I feel both him and ETH are sort of underwhelming and come with question marks.

For Poch, he cant seem to take teams to winning things. His recent record hasn’t been great, and it might be the second sack for him in a short period of time. No doubt he’ll have more authority on the squad, given that he’s more of a ‘big name’ manager though.

For ETH, he’s only proven himself in the Dutch league, where there are 2 teams which compete for the title. But there’s more hope with him because of his potential. But whether that potential might be realised or not, is a different question. Also, given how Rangnick has been treated so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our players are ‘unhappy’ with him and the same shit happens again as this season, with rumours of discontent and leaks. Also, we would have to replace a lot of players to suit his style, and this might take a couple of seasons. I highly doubt people would be willing to be patient for this.
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We will have to replace a lot of players anyway, so many of leaving in the summer as it is and others just aren't good enough.

Having a manager with a clear vision on style of play like ETH will at least focus our recruitment and hopefully not lead to a Hodge Podge squad like we have now.
 
The amount of stick he gets is far more exaggerated by the amount of praise a smaller handful of fans have given.
 
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