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Delegates from both sides of peace talks say there has been progress
Delegates from both sides of peace talks have sounded positive, ahead of more negotiations in the next few days.
Ukrainian negotiator and presidential advisor Mykhailo Podolyak said talks had become more constructive.
“We will not concede in principle on any positions. Russia now understands this. Russia is already beginning to talk constructively. I think that we will achieve some results literally in a matter of days,” he said in a video posted online.
Leonid Slutsky, a Russian delegate said there had been significant progress and they hoped to soon arrive at a “joint position”, Reuters reports.
The state-owned RIA news agency said he was comparing the state of talks now with those when they first started, saying there had been “substantial progress”.
This comes a day after the French and German presidents, Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz said Vladimir Putin did not show a willingness to end the war during a call on Saturday.
Don't Ukraine want them to leave all of it's borders though? If they're not changing that position I'm not too sure they'll really be much closer.
Had to google to check that wasn't the football manager Slutsky.
Isn't Serbia due to join the EU in 2025?
Yeah, it’s safe to say that NATO aren’t particularly popular in Serbia, to put it lightly.
Cant see this happening.
Believe all their Tennis players have to be fully vaxxed before joining.
Serbia has its fair bit of pro-Russian sentiment but I think there was also a massive gathering in support of Ukraine a week or so ago after 1000 or so idiots made it seem like the whole country loves Putin.
From that clip, it's hard to say how many people there are exactly but I wouldn't be so quick to judge. As the US well knows, there's plenty of idiots in any country and I am not sure you'd see less of them if something like this was organised in the South.
EDIT: Still makes me uneasy but as I've seen recently and throughout human history, people are happy to believe what they want, not necessarily what is the truth/facts.
From that clip, it's hard to say how many people there are exactly but I wouldn't be so quick to judge. As the US well knows, there's plenty of idiots in any country and I am not sure you'd see less of them if something like this was organised in the South.
EDIT: Still makes me uneasy but as I've seen recently and throughout human history, people are happy to believe what they want, not necessarily what is the truth/facts.
It may have been in Donetsk (as in, away from danger). At least that's what this clip is suggesting. Not sure if its Kadyrov himself in the vehicle.
Yes I cannot imagine Ukraine offering territorial concessions. But this is all the information I could find so your guess is as good as mine.
I think Putin is above 50% in support from Serbians.
Saying that you'll not concede "in principle" make it sounds like you're about to concede something.
fecking hell. We have not had military service for more than 15 years and hardly have a military.
There might be 10 15 20 mercenaries from here joining Russia (and that announcement further up the page is the first I have heard of this) but it is frankly tiring to see us always being viewed as "little Russia" when most people here oppose the conflict and want to join the EU
There might be 10 15 20 mercenaries from here joining Russia (and that announcement further up the page is the first I have heard of this) but it is frankly tiring to see us always being viewed as "little Russia" when most people here oppose the conflict and want to join the EU
So I presume you are from Serbia. I personally find it hard to get a good grip on how pro-Russia Serbia is but I definitely think it is exaggerated.
Sounds like that's your view as well.
Yes I am and yes, it is exaggerated. There is a section of the population that do support Russia in this, but this is a vast minority.
We are not the Serbia of the 90s anymore but that does not prevent everyone throwing us in in news like this.
This was a needless invasion but not for the influence of windmills and "green energy".
I admire the bravery and symbolism, but it makes for uneasy viewing seeing him walk about in the open like that
No.
Trump has to be by far the dimmest President that Americans have ever had. He has the attention span of a goldfish, the emotional age of a 5 year-old, and I doubt he even understands the meaning of many of the words in any document given to him
The worst thing is if a deal gets made with some regions going to Russia then many will have died for nothing. Both sides would probably have taken that for some time but Putin has to bomb innocents to strengthen his hand and get as much as possible.
What was his answer?
I don't think Putin would accept anything less in a negociation at this moment.
So Russia have killed an American Journalist.
Surely Biden can enter the war now.
Surely Biden can enter the war now.
Fortunately, this is not how it works
A solid point for all the whatabouters and bothsiders
The place would probably have been secured. And I don’t believe he is really a target for a raid.
Killing him would do the Russian invasion much more harm than good. Even in Russia he doesn’t seem to be the target of the propaganda. They are more about making him look irrelevant, as in “the west and the Nazis” are the real people ruling Ukraine and not the the elected government.
Yup. There’s a reason countries want to continue on a path to Westernisation and look to the EU and NATO for their prosperity and security. If Russia had anything to offer, countries would look to join their racket, sorry I mean trade and security groups.
It's only a solid point if you ignore geopolitics and the fact that historically the largest nations have areas of influences where other large nations don't really step.
Russia’s defence ministry has admitted responsibility for the rocket attack on the International Centre for Peacekeeping & Security, a military base, near Lviv on Sunday.
It said that the facility in Yavoriv was being used to store military equipment delivered from foreign nations, according to Reuters. A spokesperson said it killed up to 180 “foreign mercenaries” and a “large amount” of weapons.
The defence ministry said it will continue attacks against foreign mercenaries.
It said that the facility in Yavoriv was being used to store military equipment delivered from foreign nations, according to Reuters. A spokesperson said it killed up to 180 “foreign mercenaries” and a “large amount” of weapons.
The defence ministry said it will continue attacks against foreign mercenaries.
This shows how utterly absurd it is to argue on behalf of Putin's view on this topic, instead of the view that states can be free to chart their own paths.
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Truman wasn't that bright but had lots more self awareness and humility.
It's a good point. I was never using Twitter much before this war but it has become essential for me during it. Educational as well! I learned that there is a word called "westplaining" being used. Think it's fantastic. Like "mansplaining" when a man tries to explain shit to other genders in a very patronizing way. Westplaining is when I read this thread and see points like those you quoted and then get a westerner coming in speaking about geopolitics, belittling any right and aspiration to join the EU and NATO. You can, of course, also speak in hindsight about how it was a mistake to let those who already join, join. Like what is sovereignty even? As if we should feel guilty, or at least, get real and whatnot.
I think the 'Putin' view is important only in that it's how he can sell the idea. Its quite important context for the narrative he peddles, not to us, but at home, like all warring nations. Sure most wars would be untenable without the narrative for the homefront.
Also if we always went with self determination as a rule and not just when it suits a narrative I think we'd be all more able to trust the narratives