Solskjaer's legacy and his future

Oh wait it’s another round of defending Ole’a feel good atmosphere, I guess we can close the thread anytime soon now that there’s a common agreement we shouldn’t never criticize a club legend for being absolutely inept and installing the losers mindset here

Can’t fecking believe the state he left us in.
 
It was never this bad under any other manager post fergie. The Ole era ended in our lowest point in decades. I blame it mainly on the players, but unlike Ralf, Ole is actually responsible for assembling the current group. Fergie saw through player's personalities and wasn't just after skill. You look at this group and you know in your heart that Ole fecked up big time. He's still a legend to me, but fecking hell, what else to say.
 
Oh wait it’s another round of defending Ole’a feel good atmosphere, I guess we can close the thread anytime soon now that there’s a common agreement we shouldn’t never criticize a club legend for being absolutely inept and installing the losers mindset here

Can’t fecking believe the state he left us in.
Where's the defending?
 
Ole assembled the players and gave them instructions on how he wanted them to play. It would difficult to overstate how poor his management was, the effects we see to this day, long after he left the club in shambles.
 
He's destroyed this football club, I knew the damage he did and was doing at the time but it's even worse then I possibly could have imagined.

It will take years to recover from his reign

Absolutely, but ironically he is also the man responsible for one of the happiest nights of my life as a United fan. Such is life as a football fan.
 
Seeing Fletcher booked today as the first technical director to ever be booked tells you all you need to know about the structure of this club. Rotten!
 
Absolutely, but ironically he is also the man responsible for one of the happiest nights of my life as a United fan. Such is life as a football fan.
His tenure was the best moments we have had since Alex.. Rashford , Martial was firing ..Bruno was firing .. we hit teams for 9 goals , we were a goal keeper kick away from Europa ..
this season he didn't perform good .. but thats another story..
 
Redcafe is burning while he is swimming in all that sack money, props to him. Wasting time and money can happen to anyone, his biggest impact is standards dropping among fans.

Before he became a manager, word winner was used to smack all kinds of potential managers, managers that didnt win titles were mocked and marked left right center. Suddenly after his hiring, when fan base saw that winning anything is to hard for him, complete shift, winning became non important, people didnt mind us getting knocked out in cup semis at all, vs the likes City, hell some even spinned it was good for us, "bigger fish to catch" in rest of the season, clear progress they said haha, fecking shameless.
 
He's destroyed this football club, I knew the damage he did and was doing at the time but it's even worse then I possibly could have imagined.

It will take years to recover from his reign
You are correct. Shame on us fools who believed he was building something here. It's a terrible squad with hopeless future.
 
So much money spent on such dross that will be so difficult to move on. That's potentially years wasted.
 
It was never this bad under any other manager post fergie. The Ole era ended in our lowest point in decades. I blame it mainly on the players, but unlike Ralf, Ole is actually responsible for assembling the current group. Fergie saw through player's personalities and wasn't just after skill. You look at this group and you know in your heart that Ole fecked up big time. He's still a legend to me, but fecking hell, what else to say.
Woodward was too eager to hire Ole permanently when it was obvious that he was quite clueless at the end of his first season losing to Huddersfield. Then overpaying for English players based on a ridiculous idea of a British core. Salah, Mane, de Bruyne were scouted and developed.
 
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
The top reds can feel proud of themselves for supporting him till the very end though, and that's what really matters
But we kept being told to be patient. That Rome wasn’t built in a day. 3 years later, here we are.
 
Maguire
Wan Bissaka
Over-glorification of Rashy
Letting JLingz still be here
Cavani
Ronaldo

Nothing helped the club. Nothing.

He did well with the little coaching ability he had. But fecked us up for a long long time. Not his fault though, he brought a smile to young Rashy’s face.

Don't forget the Mata and Jones contracts as we as signing Telles. He's left this squad in a fecking crap state
 
Ole was the equiv of first violin but the conductor was Woodward, he had no idea over his whole tenure as CEO, mind boggles that a merchant banker was left basically in charge of everything from player recruitment, manager hires, stadium updates etc.

Add the Glazers indifference to anything but dividends, and watch as they sell off their non voting shares and buy more cigars and Tampa Bay apparel and it’s easy to understand how far Man Utd has fallen.

Here in Oz, the kids that wear soccer shirts , dont seem all that enamoured with Man Utd , as Barcelona and Liverpool are far more visible. The slippery slide needs to be stopped, not sure the personnel is in place to do it.
 
I was always sceptical about Solskjaer’s managerial abilities but hoped he’d have at least left a decent squad behind for the next guy to build off on.

But wow, I honestly think this is worse than what Jose left behind.
 
I wonder how we'd have done if we did the smart thing and sacked him after the Villarreal final loss, which should've been the absolute latest time to do it considering the terrible football.
I wonder that too. But the idiots in charge had already agreed on a new contract with him before the Villareal game. To them, he had already achieved their only football objective: top four.
 
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.

You're not wrong. I still stand by my opinion that Ole is the worst manager we've had after Fergie. Moyes was diabolical, but at least he didn't stay long enough to cause further damage.
 
Where's the defending?
Look few posts up, get yourself reminded of how our match going fans clapped at him following the most embarrassing of losses, take a look back at the period when plenty of our fans claimed it’s more important to back the incompetent former legend than to give ourselves a chance to be run like a professional club.

Oh, or just look at where we are now. After all these “he was shit but at least left us in a better spot”
 
Look few posts up, get yourself reminded of how our match going fans clapped at him following the most embarrassing of losses, take a look back at the period when plenty of our fans claimed it’s more important to back the incompetent former legend than to give ourselves a chance to be run like a professional club.

Oh, or just look at where we are now. After all these “he was shit but at least left us in a better spot”
How long in the past should I go?
 
Was that PSG game the worst thing to happen to us? I mean the rot runs deep but I feel at least this cycle of malaise started then.
 
Ole was the PR/Yes man to hide the incompetency at the club and sell it to the fans, I bet 99% of the decisions had nothing to do with him.
 
Moyes, Van Gaal, Jose, and Rangnick all unable to get a tune out of United under this ownership. Klopp took one meeting and laughed us out of the room. Pep met Fergie and still had no interest in working here.

Yet it's the club legend people pick to shit on every chance they get.

The club is rotten from top to bottom. The manager is just the patsy in the firing line.

Yeah half the eejits in here moaning every day were convinced all we needed to do was sack Solskjaer and get a 'proper' manager in and we'd be flying. That narrative changed quickly didn't it.
 
Maguire
Wan Bissaka
Over-glorification of Rashy
Letting JLingz still be here
Cavani
Ronaldo

Nothing helped the club. Nothing.

He did well with the little coaching ability he had. But fecked us up for a long long time. Not his fault though, he brought a smile to young Rashy’s face.
Also...
Letting the Pogba contract saga run on
Signing VDB
 
Redcafe is burning while he is swimming in all that sack money, props to him. Wasting time and money can happen to anyone, his biggest impact is standards dropping among fans.

Before he became a manager, word winner was used to smack all kinds of potential managers, managers that didnt win titles were mocked and marked left right center. Suddenly after his hiring, when fan base saw that winning anything is to hard for him, complete shift, winning became non important, people didnt mind us getting knocked out in cup semis at all, vs the likes City, hell some even spinned it was good for us, "bigger fish to catch" in rest of the season, clear progress they said haha, fecking shameless.
You're talking through your fecking ass. Standards didn't slip because of the manager, it's because of the clowns in the background who run the club who haven't signed a decent player in a decade.
 
Yeah half the eejits in here moaning every day were convinced all we needed to do was sack Solskjaer and get a 'proper' manager in and we'd be flying. That narrative changed quickly didn't it.
You’d have to be very naive to think that even the most proper manager would be able to carry out an overnight change of mentality - especially after the team was not motivated at all for a long time.
 
Yeah half the eejits in here moaning every day were convinced all we needed to do was sack Solskjaer and get a 'proper' manager in and we'd be flying. That narrative changed quickly didn't it.

I could understand that thought process, if the "proper" managers hadn't taken one look at the circus according to Glazer and run a country mile.
 
You’d have to be very naive to think that even the most proper manager would be able to carry out an overnight change of mentality - especially after the team was not motivated at all for a long time.

Well yeah most of the balloons that said it most likely are.
 
I could understand that thought process, if the "proper" managers hadn't taken one look at the circus according to Glazer and run a country mile.

Can't say I blame them to be honest.
 
The same people getting onto RR [who has been awful] for now being knocked out of the UCL are the same ones falling over themselves to excuse OgS’s consistent failures in the UCL & more so the UEL semis/finals.

His legacy is the lowering of standards. He lowered expectations in the fans & lowered them so much at board level we hired a man that hadn’t managed for years. His legacy should be something we learn from & don’t do again.
 
It’s so funny that people are still taking any opportunity to give Ole another sneaky kick in the balls.

I wonder how long it will be before we can dream of 2nd in the league, and a Europa final.
 
It’s so funny that people are still taking any opportunity to give Ole another sneaky kick in the balls.

I wonder how long it will be before we can dream of 2nd in the league, and a Europa final.

2nd in league while being nowhere near 1st and a Europa Final is nothing.
 
It’s so funny that people are still taking any opportunity to give Ole another sneaky kick in the balls.

I wonder how long it will be before we can dream of 2nd in the league, and a Europa final.
We deserve exactly what we’re getting with mindsets like these.
 
This really needs to be let go.

The way things are carrying on it would not be a shock if in 25 years when we dust off the trophy cabinet for the long awaited arrival of a PL trophy that people are still crediting Ole for "laying a foundation." Maguire, AWB, Bruno will be collecting their pensions but it won't matter.

And conversely, the bitter and twisted lot will still be claiming that if it wasn't for Ole we'd have secured it a decade earlier.

Really depressing it cannot just be accepted for what it is. Legend of the club, didn't work - move on.