Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

While it seems unrealistic to us, this is exactly what gonna happen, they’ll simply move in poor Russians to the flats that were left behind by locals, these will be offered for free, so you’ll get many takers for sure given the devastating economic situation in Russia.

Are there even any flats left that aren't completely destroyed?

Also there is no food, no water, no sanitation, no heating. I guess you could move a few thousand homeless people there but that's about it really. And even the homeless will probably migrate to Donetsk eventually where there is better infrastructure.
 
Are there even any flats left that aren't completely destroyed?

Also there is no food, no water, no sanitation, no heating. I guess you could move a few thousand homeless people there but that's about it really. And even the homeless will probably migrate to Donetsk eventually where there is better infrastructure.
Oh, that wouldn’t happen overnight, and Russia is going to repair the basic infrastructure so that it can make it happen.
 
Oh, that wouldn’t happen overnight, and Russia is going to repair the basic infrastructure so that it can make it happen.

Repair infrastructure? With no money? Nah, they have their own economy to save and a military to fund.

I imagine repairing Mariupol is wayyy down on the priority list.
 
It’s possible with brutality and forced reallocation of people to Russia and replacing them with their own.
Part of Russia's problem is their shrinking population. Relocating huge populations to the whole of Ukraine sounds unrealistic.
 
Looking more and more like that occupation of the land bridge to Crimea will define a successful war for Russia:

 
Looking more and more like that occupation of the land bridge to Crimea will define a successful war for Russia:



At what cost? They will have to spend insane money and military resources on the occupation of that land bridge while the sanctions keep crippling the Russian economy.

The strategy is not viable.
 
At what cost? They will have to spend insane money and military resources on the occupation of that land bridge while the sanctions keep crippling the Russian economy.

The strategy is not viable.
Hope you are right, but the world accepted what they did in Crimea and Donbas previously.
 
If we lift the sanctions, then we better have a word with ourselves. Also, if sanctions are reduced then I'm done worrying about European security. I'll just accept whatever happens as Russia grows stronger again.
 
If we lift the sanctions, then we better have a word with ourselves. Also, if sanctions are reduced then I'm done worrying about European security. I'll just accept whatever happens as Russia grows stronger again.
Inevitable I think

Wars dont usually end in total destructiuon of a nation - they are typically settled with first a ceasefire then a peace treaty

The ceasefire negotiations will be between Russia and Ukraine and of course there will be some contentious issues around recognition of areas of control future commitments etc and if you draw the venn diagram of what will be acceptable there is probably the outline of a landing strip somewhere in the middle for somebody to land a deal at some point there.

Once that happens though I think Russia will use the lull in fighting to quickly resupply so that they can re-open hostilities and particularly mass targeting of civilians if the actual peace treaty negotiations dont go how they want and this is a much trickier venn diagram as Russia will want sanction relief and as such there will need to be either direct or proxy (through ukraine) negotiations with the Eu and the states about what sanction relief Putin can secure or he will start killing civilians to ensure Ukraine pushes the EU / states to give the relief

Without any sanction relief i simply dont see him stopping at all so as unpalatable as it is I thin its inevitable - though the closer it gets to the Mid terms the more politically charged sanction relief will become in the states as I think as far as McConnel, trump and de-Santis are concerned they would see millions of Ukrainian civilians killed and push back against any sanction relief so they can either blame biden for not ending things or blame him for giving in to putin

But probably some sanction relief will need to be given to get any peace talks over the line
 
Close enough for me, according to your link. (I really don’t care because old quotes are always questionable)
Is really not, as the link says, he's talking about coordination of attacks, not supply lines. Logistics as an idea doesn't come from ancient China anyway.
 
Inevitable I think

Wars dont usually end in total destructiuon of a nation - they are typically settled with first a ceasefire then a peace treaty

The ceasefire negotiations will be between Russia and Ukraine and of course there will be some contentious issues around recognition of areas of control future commitments etc and if you draw the venn diagram of what will be acceptable there is probably the outline of a landing strip somewhere in the middle for somebody to land a deal at some point there.

Once that happens though I think Russia will use the lull in fighting to quickly resupply so that they can re-open hostilities and particularly mass targeting of civilians if the actual peace treaty negotiations dont go how they want and this is a much trickier venn diagram as Russia will want sanction relief and as such there will need to be either direct or proxy (through ukraine) negotiations with the Eu and the states about what sanction relief Putin can secure or he will start killing civilians to ensure Ukraine pushes the EU / states to give the relief

Without any sanction relief i simply dont see him stopping at all so as unpalatable as it is I thin its inevitable - though the closer it gets to the Mid terms the more politically charged sanction relief will become in the states as I think as far as McConnel, trump and de-Santis are concerned they would see millions of Ukrainian civilians killed and push back against any sanction relief so they can either blame biden for not ending things or blame him for giving in to putin

But probably some sanction relief will need to be given to get any peace talks over the line

Well considering Russia's initial goals I think we can be lucky they are far away from the total destruction of a nation.

Also, I'm not sure sanctions relief can be a part of the peace deal, considering its out of Ukraine's direct control. Unless they want to involve the US and EU in the negotiations too, which will be odd.
 
While it seems unrealistic to us, this is exactly what gonna happen, they’ll simply move in poor Russians to the flats that were left behind by locals, these will be offered for free, so you’ll get many takers for sure given the devastating economic situation in Russia.
 
I refer you to the part in parentheses
You don't care that you're misquoting one of the most famous people ever with a quote that's clearly out of the 20th century?

"Cybersecurity is the crux of any country's defense." -Sun Tzu

I mean you can extrapolate that from his theories right? And you don't care if its accurate, you just wanna sound smart quoting Sun Tzu...incorrectly?

Okay....
 
In 2-3Y Russia almost won’t have any gas/oil consumers in Europe and this change is going to be permanent. No sanctions will be lifted while Putin is in charge and until occupied territories will be given back together with the war recuperations.
 
You don't care that you're misquoting one of the most famous people ever with a quote that's clearly out of the 21st century?

"Cybersecurity is the crux of any country's defense." -Sun Tzu

I mean you can extrapolate that from his theories right? And you don't care if its accurate, you just wanna sound smart quoting Sun Tzu...incorrectly?

Okay....
Don’t worry. This won’t happen again. I’m going to @ you anytime I want to casually quote anyone in the future.
 
You don't care that you're misquoting one of the most famous people ever with a quote that's clearly out of the 20th century?

"Cybersecurity is the crux of any country's defense." -Sun Tzu

I mean you can extrapolate that from his theories right? And you don't care if its accurate, you just wanna sound smart quoting Sun Tzu...incorrectly?

Okay....
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Prominent Ukrainians sign a letter to the international Red Cross, critical of perceived inaction:

 
@Carolina Red

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Prominent Ukrainians sign a letter to the international Red Cross, critical of perceived inaction:


Sucks if true. I donated to them thinking they'd be one of the organizations that would be able to help, as they historically have.
 
Umm, you think Denzel Washington actually said that? There's not even any sound in that gif, how are we supposed to verify? And it wasn't even really Denzel Washington, he was playing a character.

Stop trying to look smart.
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