Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

From the Guardian, seems to call into question Russia's claim that they'll only sell oil and gas in rubles, which I would call a good sign.

"Reuters reports the details from New Delhi:

Gazprom has asked India’s largest gas transmitter GAIL (India) to pay for gas imports in euros instead of dollars, two sources said, in a sign the Russian energy giant seeks to wean itself away from the U.S. currency in the wake of the Ukraine conflict.

European countries and the United States have imposed heavy sanctions on Russia since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.

GAIL has a long-term gas import deal with Gazprom Marketing & Trading Singapore to annually buy 2.5 million tonnes of liquefied natural gas and has been settling trade with Gazprom in dollars.

GAIL, which imports and distributes gas, also operates India’s largest gas pipeline network.

Last week, Gazprom wrote to GAIL requesting that the company settle payments for gas purchases in euros instead of dollars, the sources familiar with the matter said, adding the state-run Indian firm is still examining the request.

“GAIL doesn’t see any problem in settling payment in euros as European countries are paying for their imports in euros,” said one of the sources."
 
TMDaines said:
Hogwartswashing:

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hummm... suspicious

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Beans said:
From the Guardian, seems to call into question Russia's claim that they'll only sell oil and gas in rubles, which I would call a good sign.

"Reuters reports the details from New Delhi:

Gazprom has asked India’s largest gas transmitter GAIL (India) to pay for gas imports in euros instead of dollars, two sources said, in a sign the Russian energy giant seeks to wean itself away from the U.S. currency in the wake of the Ukraine conflict.

European countries and the United States have imposed heavy sanctions on Russia since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.

GAIL has a long-term gas import deal with Gazprom Marketing & Trading Singapore to annually buy 2.5 million tonnes of liquefied natural gas and has been settling trade with Gazprom in dollars.

GAIL, which imports and distributes gas, also operates India’s largest gas pipeline network.

Last week, Gazprom wrote to GAIL requesting that the company settle payments for gas purchases in euros instead of dollars, the sources familiar with the matter said, adding the state-run Indian firm is still examining the request.

“GAIL doesn’t see any problem in settling payment in euros as European countries are paying for their imports in euros,” said one of the sources."
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I think it's specifically Europe that the ruble condition applies to ("unfriendly [EU] nations" was the term). Remains to be seen if they stick to the demand.
 
Lots of rumours that Russia is going to use chemical weapons. Their officers are getting Pralidoxime shots. If this happens, I can see NATO intervening.
 
Beans said:
From the Guardian, seems to call into question Russia's claim that they'll only sell oil and gas in rubles, which I would call a good sign.

"Reuters reports the details from New Delhi:

Gazprom has asked India’s largest gas transmitter GAIL (India) to pay for gas imports in euros instead of dollars, two sources said, in a sign the Russian energy giant seeks to wean itself away from the U.S. currency in the wake of the Ukraine conflict.

European countries and the United States have imposed heavy sanctions on Russia since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.

GAIL has a long-term gas import deal with Gazprom Marketing & Trading Singapore to annually buy 2.5 million tonnes of liquefied natural gas and has been settling trade with Gazprom in dollars.

GAIL, which imports and distributes gas, also operates India’s largest gas pipeline network.

Last week, Gazprom wrote to GAIL requesting that the company settle payments for gas purchases in euros instead of dollars, the sources familiar with the matter said, adding the state-run Indian firm is still examining the request.

“GAIL doesn’t see any problem in settling payment in euros as European countries are paying for their imports in euros,” said one of the sources."
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I believe they only threatened the switch to Ruble settlements from 'unfriendly nations'. For instance, I'm sure they said Serbia could maintain payments as before.

*I didn't notice this had already been responded to. My bad.
 


Maybe I am being optimistic but it seems Russia is moving the goal posts after failing to make any progress. They are going to make it look like they have achieved their objective of denazifying and liberating people domestically.
 
This guy is probably #1 on the Ukrainian wish list, next to Putin himself

 
Sanchez7 said:


Maybe I am being optimistic but it seems Russia is moving the goal posts after failing to make any progress. They are going to make it look like they have achieved their objective of denazifying and liberating people domestically.
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There messages are mainly for the Russian people, not for us. Nothing out of them can be taken seriously.
 
Despite the tweet's claims, you can't see any real detail other than what happened:

 
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Lj82 said:
I've lost count how many generals they lost.
If I recall correctly, in the Russian system their Lt Gen is 2 star, Maj Gen is 1 star.
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They have lost 6 out of total 20 generals assigned for the invasion in a single month. That’s a bleak death rate from Russian perspective.
 
Russia's confused propaganda messages:

They're fighting against Nazism. But they're also fighting against 'woke' culture, as if Nazis aren't the most 'anti-woke' possible.

And they're fighting against cancel culture .... by trying to cancel the Ukrainian culture and national existence.

And they're fighting to defend a nuclear-armed Russia, by attacking a non-nuclear, much smaller neighbouring country.

I mean really, who actually buys this guff?

To answer my own question, I guess the people who buy it are those - aka typical Trump supporters - of limited intelligence who lack all critical thinking ability and can only understand childishly simplistic slogans without seeing contradictions between them.
 
Rajma said:
They have lost 6 out of total 20 generals assigned for the invasion in a single month. That’s a bleak death rate from Russian perspective.
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I said around the first couple of generals killed, that killing generals isn't some sort of accelerated path to victory if the forces they command don't equally suffer losses. Mainly because there are deputies and average general isn't irreplaceable (in fact replacing generals is a regular occurrence during peacetime and war). But the rate Russia is losing them at represents something deeply wrong about their operations, and is getting to the level where they might be challenged in terms of having able replacements, in part because the colonels below them that would usually step-up are also taking significant losses.
 
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