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What do you guys think about Ocon and Alonso battle? Do you think the team should have allowed it to continue considering it could have caused crash and was also eating up their tyres?

Ocon defends hard against Alonso his team-mate but when it comes to others he just let's them past.
 
What do you guys think about Ocon and Alonso battle? Do you think the team should have allowed it to continue considering it could have caused crash and was also eating up their tyres?

Ocon defends hard against Alonso his team-mate but when it comes to others he just let's them past.
It makes great watching, but it must hurt the team.
Did the battle cause Alonso's car top DNF ?
Do they stop them from racing, Otmar was happy for them to race, he was enjoying it, dont think he would be too happy if they took each other out.
I think this early in the season, you let them race.
 
What do you guys think about Ocon and Alonso battle? Do you think the team should have allowed it to continue considering it could have caused crash and was also eating up their tyres?

Ocon defends hard against Alonso his team-mate but when it comes to others he just let's them past.

Great for the viewers, damaging for the team overall.

Issue I think they had was it was hard to say who was the overall fastest driver between the two to allow them to stay ahead permanently and just crack on. Neither managed to break away so I imagine the team just said race on but dont do anything too stupid. Definitely one of the riskier tracks to do it on, much narrower than the typical events.
 
What do you guys think about Ocon and Alonso battle? Do you think the team should have allowed it to continue considering it could have caused crash and was also eating up their tyres?

Ocon defends hard against Alonso his team-mate but when it comes to others he just let's them past.
You want to see great racing and sometimes that’s just team mates going at it.
Shit for the team, great for the viewer
 
What do you guys think about Ocon and Alonso battle? Do you think the team should have allowed it to continue considering it could have caused crash and was also eating up their tyres?

Ocon defends hard against Alonso his team-mate but when it comes to others he just let's them past.
You could see the boss trying to keep a straight face but you could tell it was killing him inside :lol:

It was great to see them fighting but lets be honest they should have had a comfortable 6th/7th place. In the end they allowed Bottas and Magnussen to catch them up and turned it into a 4 way battle.

As others have mentioned it might have pushed Alonso's car into overheating having to constantly push like that.

Good for the sport but i'm sure Alpine will be angry. Unfortunately for them both Ocon and Alonso are hot heads and hate being beaten by their team mate's, so I can't see much changing.
 
You could see the boss trying to keep a straight face but you could tell it was killing him inside :lol:

It was great to see them fighting but lets be honest they should have had a comfortable 6th/7th place. In the end they allowed Bottas and Magnussen to catch them up and turned it into a 4 way battle.

As others have mentioned it might have pushed Alonso's car into overheating having to constantly push like that.

Good for the sport but i'm sure Alpine will be angry. Unfortunately for them both Ocon and Alonso are hot heads and hate being beaten by their team mate's, so I can't see much changing.
I'm not sure why/how Alpine can be angry when Szafnauer was telling the TV commentators it was all OK and that it'd calm down later and then 4 or 5 laps later Ocon was given the 'hold station' message. If they didn't want them to race, that message would have gone out sooner.
 
Remember how cut throat Red Bull were with their drivers. I thought Buemi was a good driver (went onto having a good career) but he was let go after a few mistakes. Max the child prodigy was given time. You need to know the right people in this sport too. There are good drivers up and down the grid.

Max performed from minute 1. Red Bull give more chances than most at the moment so can't see how it's a stick to beat them with.
 
I'm not sure why/how Alpine can be angry when Szafnauer was telling the TV commentators it was all OK and that it'd calm down later and then 4 or 5 laps later Ocon was given the 'hold station' message. If they didn't want them to race, that message would have gone out sooner.
:lol: like he's going to tell the live television broadcast his drivers are being bellends and ignoring the team orders. Tbf they did tell Ocon to hold station literally about 2 laps after they talked to him.

It's all well and good until they crash into eachother like Ocon/Perez used to do weekly.
 
Max made the same dumb mistake tonight that cost him last week. I thought there's no way he's going to allow Leclerc to have him on strings like that for much longer. Small coming of age moment perhaps? Always thought he was an emotional driver who always acts on impulse, but he showed some impressive poise in the heat of battle tonight. If he can be strategic in crunch moments and still keep his aggressive/emotional style, he'll be hard to stop this season and for years to come.

It didn't cost him last week. There was no way he could have stayed ahead at a track like Bahrain where the Ferrari took the slow corners so much better.
 
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I'm not sure why/how Alpine can be angry when Szafnauer was telling the TV commentators it was all OK and that it'd calm down later and then 4 or 5 laps later Ocon was given the 'hold station' message. If they didn't want them to race, that message would have gone out sooner.
I read somewhere that Ocon was told 3 times to hold and he did not listen. History has shown that he is like that with his team-mates. Why did he not show the same aggression when Bottas passed him.
 
I read somewhere that Ocon was told 3 times to hold and he did not listen. History has shown that he is like that with his team-mates. Why did he not show the same aggression when Bottas passed him.
If true, that would really endear him to prospective employers in the future.
 
Max's win reminded me a lot of Lewis' over the years. Probably didn't deserve it overall... Sainz inadvertently squeezed at the start by his own team mate getting him to 3rd, some bad luck for Perez (bet the team in hindsight are pleased they didn't have to wrestle with a Max/Perez switch), and then darn good driving to pass Leclerc and take full advantage of the situation. Wonder why Leclerc struggled at the end compared to Max?
 
Max's win reminded me a lot of Lewis' over the years. Probably didn't deserve it overall... Sainz inadvertently squeezed at the start by his own team mate getting him to 3rd, some bad luck for Perez (bet the team in hindsight are pleased they didn't have to wrestle with a Max/Perez switch), and then darn good driving to pass Leclerc and take full advantage of the situation. Wonder why Leclerc struggled at the end compared to Max?

Not sure how he didn't deserve it?

Only one of the front four to "Pass someone on track".
 
Max's win reminded me a lot of Lewis' over the years. Probably didn't deserve it overall... Sainz inadvertently squeezed at the start by his own team mate getting him to 3rd, some bad luck for Perez (bet the team in hindsight are pleased they didn't have to wrestle with a Max/Perez switch), and then darn good driving to pass Leclerc and take full advantage of the situation. Wonder why Leclerc struggled at the end compared to Max?

He got very unlucky with the Albon yellow flag in sector 1 - so he couldn't have a go back at Max straightaway in Ferrari's best sector. Beyond that it's probably down to setup - Ferrari used more downforce and Red Bull less drag. It's hard to pass on the corners in SA given the nature of the track and that's where Ferrari had their biggest speed delta - it was always going to be tough to catch up Max because the pure pace of the Red Bull on straights partially negated the boost from DRS.
 
Max's win reminded me a lot of Lewis' over the years. Probably didn't deserve it overall... Sainz inadvertently squeezed at the start by his own team mate getting him to 3rd, some bad luck for Perez (bet the team in hindsight are pleased they didn't have to wrestle with a Max/Perez switch), and then darn good driving to pass Leclerc and take full advantage of the situation. Wonder why Leclerc struggled at the end compared to Max?
there was some team radio a bit after the pit stops where RB were telling max that they thought Le clerk was being harder on his tyres so perhaps they were right
 
Surprised that more has not been made of George Russell drive in Saudi as well as Bahrain. Pretty good start in an obviously poor car.
He is doing all the right things by keeping his head down and driving well.
 
bernie ecclestones (grandfather of f1) used to ensure that hamilton always won races and championships as this helped to cover up racist things he was responsible for in his past (one of his grandchildren was hitler.) he would often be heard to say “how can i be racist? i fix things so an untalented black driver wins all the time in the fastest car.”

then he got so old and so racist that he sold his f1 company to someone else who isn’t that bothered about hamilton winning all the time. so the mercedes car is slow now without all the outside interference and hamilton is being shown up for being really slow, even compared to a teammate whose face was clearly made in a factory.

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How did Bernie do that?
 
How did Bernie do that?

by harvesting the souls of failed red bulll driver program drivers. luckily horner ensures he can churn through them at a pace that can sustain him.
 
Bernie could be a right &(a$ in his F1. If he thought you looked at him funny like you'd be in trouble, if he wanted such and such driver in a certain team it would happen.
 
Surprised that more has not been made of George Russell drive in Saudi as well as Bahrain. Pretty good start in an obviously poor car.
He is doing all the right things by keeping his head down and driving well.

He outperformed Hamilton massively at the last race, great under the radar 5th. I had no doubts he would fit right in, people won't really sit up and take notice until Mercedes are in amongst it though, he basically raced himself to 5th last race.
 
:lol: like he's going to tell the live television broadcast his drivers are being bellends and ignoring the team orders. Tbf they did tell Ocon to hold station literally about 2 laps after they talked to him.

It's all well and good until they crash into eachother like Ocon/Perez used to do weekly.
No need for patronizing smileys. I would be amazed if those messages weren't put out in the broadcast, would be great TV.
I read somewhere that Ocon was told 3 times to hold and he did not listen. History has shown that he is like that with his team-mates. Why did he not show the same aggression when Bottas passed him.
Possibly true, but as above, I'm surprised they weren't broadcast if that were the case.
 
Mick Schumacher's crash in qualifying in Saudi Arabia last weekend could set back the Haas team by a hefty $1 million according to team boss Guenther Steiner.

Schumacher was thrown practically at full speed broadside into the barriers after running wide on to a kerb at Jeddah's treacherous Turn 10 near the end of the second segment of qualifying in Jeddah.

Although the young German took a good beating, he escaped relatively unscathed from the wreck.

The extent of the damage to Schumacher's VF-22 compelled Haas to withdraw its driver from Sunday's race, a decision conditioned mainly by the team's low inventory of spare parts that would have put its driver at risk of not being able to take part in next week's Australian Grand Prix had he incurred more damage on race day in Jeddah.

The US outfit's first assessment of Schumacher's revealed that only the engine and the chassis' tub had survived the crash, with almost every other component needing to be replaced.

How the hell did the engine make it out in one piece !
$1m is one hell of an insurance claim.
 
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Precisely for the reasons I listed. But as I said, he took full advantage, and that is the key if he is to continue to win championships, which I am positive he will.

Who did deserve to win then? Leclerc? Checo?

If not Max, Checo deserved it more than Leclerc imo!

Max did the most in the race so deserved it the most to me.
 
Who did deserve to win then? Leclerc? Checo?

If not Max, Checo deserved it more than Leclerc imo!

Max did the most in the race so deserved it the most to me.
I am not a Max fan by any means, but I thought he deserved the win, he played a waiting game so his chance and took it.
Checo was unlucky with timings of his pit and the SC.
 
Mick Schumacher's crash in qualifying in Saudi Arabia last weekend could set back the Haas team by a hefty $1 million according to team boss Guenther Steiner.

Schumacher was thrown practically at full speed broadside into the barriers after running wide on to a kerb at Jeddah's treacherous Turn 10 near the end of the second segment of qualifying in Jeddah.

Although the young German took a good beating, he escaped relatively unscathed from the wreck.

The extent of the damage to Schumacher's VF-22 compelled Haas to withdraw its driver from Sunday's race, a decision conditioned mainly by the team's low inventory of spare parts that would have put its driver at risk of not being able to take part in next week's Australian Grand Prix had he incurred more damage on race day in Jeddah.

The US outfit's first assessment of Schumacher's revealed that only the engine and the chassis' tub had survived the crash, with almost every other component needing to be replaced.

How the hell did the engine make it out in one piece !
$1m is one hell of an insurance claim.
Crash costs and the budget cap was a contentious issue last year when this years rules were being finalised. I wouldnt be suprised if we have more "big" crashes that the teams lobby the fia, to ensure crash costs are seperated from the budget cap.
 
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It would have been interesting to see if RB would have asked Perez to move over for max if there were 10 laps or so left and they were running 1st and 2nd.

Would have been fascinating to see! My gut says they'd not have done Checo dirty to that extent as it's the 2nd race and he is the one who qualified on pole - but I could be wrong.
 
It would have been interesting to see if RB would have asked Perez to move over for max if there were 10 laps or so left and they were running 1st and 2nd.
Don't think so. It seems unlikely that Max wouldn't be able to get past Perez if he's on his arse considering they're in the same car and it's a lot easier to follow this year. DRS should do the trick. And if not, it would probably depend on the situation. If they're in a comfortable position I don't think Red Bull would do anything, but if Perez is holding Max back while Max is under pressure from someone like Leclerc I could see them giving the order.
 
Oh they definitely would. We're talking about a team who took a 4th away from Perez to finish out the points just so they could take the 1 point fast lap away from Lewis. They know Perez isn't beating Leclerc only Max can do that. I'm not even criticizing them either I would do the same too. They did that a few times too, actually ended up pretty smart play in the end.
 
Undoubtedly he'd get the order, and would follow it too.

Perez knows that the number 2 seat at Red Bull is a wingman role, he sacrificed his own races plenty last season so it's not like he isn't used to it.
 

I pretty much agree with everything said in the video, it was driving me nuts the last day when they just decided to show an instant replay all the fecking time.
 
As much as Checo was doing okay for the first stint, when it was coming to the pitstop window, Leclerc close in on him to 1.4s gap before Checo stop was made. If the safety car didn't happen, I believe Leclerc could easily undercut Checo as Checo was held up by another car.
 
Three American GPs. What a joke. Another symptom of having out-of-touch commercially focussed American owners. F1 no longer a safe haven from them it seems!