They'll piss about all summer leaving barely any time left to to get any business done and start the season in an even worse state then it ended.
Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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And we're a lovely club to manage going by the past decade? Every single manager post-SAF has left in toxic conditions.
Even if Nice and Marseille win their games in hand PSG will still be 12 points clear with 9 games to play.
Pretty sure at least half the Caf could win the league from this position.
To be honest, that's a fair point although i'd argue that Poch is probably dealing with a different class of petulant morons over there: PSG have serial winners Messi, Neymar and Mbappe to placate every match. We've got players that think second place under Ole was a great achievement.
My hope if we get Poch is that he can combine some of the better elements of Ole's man management skills with a more flexible tactical approach and a better brand of football. As i said, he's not my first choice but I'd support him if he did come here.
I would imagine this will be a factor in the decsion, as if Poch doesn't have a very quick impact then it won't take long for the fans to be on him, the players to do their usual, and United having to start all over again, and let's be honest this could easily happen, I think alot of people have decided Poch isn't good enough.
At least with ETH fans will cut him alot more slack if needed, and give him a proper chance. Even if things don't go well in the end, at least United can say they finally delivered a sort after manager the fans wanted.
Only way we will see blood and tears is when Captain Leader Legend clashes with mr. Cheeseburger while trying to defend.
On the other hand there have been rumors about the players wanting Pochettino over Ten Hag probably because they're more familiar with his work.
Ten Hag supporters and others might say the players don't/shouldn't get to decide who they want. I don't disagree. I also don't agree that the club should deliver the fans popular choice. The right decision has to be made based on other factors
The players wanting Poch line is a load of rubbish imo, if it's not then it should not be a factor in any decsion making at all. The general feeling of who the fans want is far more important over the players choice, espcially now.
The main factor i'd want to base it on is who Rangnick thinks is the right choice, as others at the club have proven time and again that they don't know. If that's the case then I'd surprised if it was Poch.
Who is reporting it?
Yeah, zero chance Rangnick recommends Pochettino IMO.
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Would be typical of the clueless owners and their incompetent business men buddies to make that appointed.Can’t wait for PSG to sack Poch and United to confirm him as the next manager! We can’t miss out in the next big name washed up manager at Old Trafford
Exactly. So lazy he didn't bother to even play. Unbelievable.
Ajax was the favorite. My point was that I don't see how the criticism of poch was more than the criticism that ten hag faced after he got knocked out by the underdog. I know Ajax was much better same way psg was much better, but there is an inconsistency in the way people on here talk about ten hag and poch.
It's simple. Ajax, before Ten Hag, didn't even qualify in the CL. Now they got kicked out in the first round despite dominating in both legs. Very unlucky, if we're being honest. PSG, before Poch, got to a CL final. Now they got kicked out in the first round. But it's also foolish to ignore the group stages were Ajax won all of their points, a record for Ajax while Poch's PSG was so-so. Poch is not a bad manager, but he is not the one to take us to the next level, let alone challenge Klopp or Guardiola.
Poch got them to the semi final last season and outplayed real Madrid only for errors to cost them the tie. And you are acting as if psg doesn't have a history of losing a lead. Heck they were much more complacent when we knocked them out a few years ago. Remember the night in Paris? As stated, Ajax losing to benefica was much worse than poch losing to real madrid
Sure, but Poch took them mid-season, so not entirely his accomplishment. As far as outplaying Real Madrid, yes - they did in the first round. But in the second he was outdone by old man Ancelotti. That's a little bit different compared to what Ajax did to Benfica. Yes, they got eliminated, it's the nature of the CL, but they thoroughly dominated both legs. We got kicked out by shit teams we should have won in the CL under SAF. It happens, it's a competition reliant on single moments that can decide entire ties.
True. But why does that excuse Poch? Shouldn't he be the one to rectify that? They continue to be the massive bottlers they were before him. Is that the kind of man we want in charge here? And no, Ajax losing to Benfica being worse than PSG to Madrid is definitely not the case. Madrid are terrible at the moment with most of their squad being composed of horribly aging players that are starting to give. In contrast, PSG has a star strudded cast and way more resources than Madrid
. Obviously Ajax are better than Benfica down to Ten Hag, but the resource differences by themselves are not that big. Prior to Ten Hag Ajax didn't even qualify for the competition while Benfica are regulars. And last time I checked, the Portuguese league is ranked higher than the Dutch.
Poch was in charge during each knockout competition. Tuchel was in charge during rhe group stage. The knockout stage was much more competitive than the group stage, so the semi finals was mostly his accomplishments. Ajax was outdone by an error, the same way psg was outdone by an error. However, psg made much more errors. Both psg and Ajax dominated their games, only for errors to cost them. However, against a team like benefica, errors should be able to be rectified. Yet, they couldn't even score a single goal at home, which was surprising.
It can't be rectified unless Leonardo changes his approach to signing players. If Leonardo values players with big ego rather than having players that works hard and suits a particular philosophy, then the only thing a caoch can do is alter his philosophy to fit what the sporting director want. Which Pochettino is doing as poch prefers playing a pressing game that is possession based.
Real madrid has a star studded cast as well. They had Bale, hazard, jovic and many other star names on high salary. Perhaps poch could have done the same and place the like of Messi and neymar on bench and built a young team around mbappe. But, neymar and Messi are of higher calibre and realistically, I can't see many manager dropping these players. Especially when the alternative isn't that great
2nd leg of the Real Madrid v PSG game was an even contest first half, PSG scored with a piece of counter attacking play and the individual brilliance of Mbappe. Second half with a few switches by Ancelotti Real Madrid totally dominated the 2nd half and Poch looked totally lost on the sideline.
Since that game Real Madrid was hammered 4-0 by a Europa League quality Barcelona and PSG was beaten 3-0 by a midtable Ligue 1 side in Monaco. Enough said..
Since that game Real Madrid was hammered 4-0 by a Europa League quality Barcelona and PSG was beaten 3-0 by a midtable Ligue 1 side in Monaco. Enough said..
Barcelona under xavi( xavi ball) at the moment will whoop many teams and that real Madrid team didn't have benzema playing. If benzema didn't play against psg, psg would have gone through. Regarding the Monaco defeat, psg players seem deflated about going out of the Champions League. Didn't watch the game, so I can't analysis it accurately without formulating the same inaccurate bias opinion formed by lot of the poch hater in this thread
No Ajax were even better better than PSG is better better.
The only reason PSG werent favourites is because of Poch by the way and how poor he has them playing. When that team was assembled, everyone had PSG as the number 1 for the CL but he has made a relatively poor side out of them.
The talent of Donnarumma/Navas, Mendes, Hakimi, Marquinhos, Verratti, Neymar, Mbappe, Messi is insane.
Together with useful pieces like Kimpembe, Paredes, Wijnaldum, Di Maria, Poch should have built a far better side.
In the Europa league Barcelona just edged past Galatasaray (15th in the Turkish league) Hate is a very strong word, some simply doesn't rate Poch that highly. And ah yes PSG needed benzema out to go through, much like last year when they only beat Bayern because they were missing Lewandowski..
Anyway Amadaeus you can knock yourself out on the Poch fan boy routine.
Anyway Amadaeus you can knock yourself out on the Poch fan boy routine.
They can afford to give up to be honest. The most 1 sided league ever. No wonder the players are never motivated. I think players only join them because it guarantees them a trophy or 2.
This is where people confuses real football, with fifa on video games or football manager. People who understand real football knows that modern football thrives of great work ethic, team balance and great chemistry. People who understand fifa on Playstation believe modern football is about signing 90 plus rated players and thinking if they all play, they should make an incredible team. The latter is far from the truth and is an opinion that many on here has. The experts have already noted the team balance issue with a front three of Mbappe, Messi and neymar and a team chemistry issue of handling the big egos in the dressing room. The only people who taught psg were favorite are the people who plays fifa, rather than understand how real football works.
Moreover, Ajax wasn't better than psg. If you watched both highlights, psg played with more swagger and had a more organized system that made the president of real Madrid wanting to get Pochettino just after the first leg. Costly errors change many people opinion about how good that psg team played as they were coasting until donarumma made that error and then they collapse under the weight of that pressure
Yes because getting the champion league is considered a "minimum task" and it is the easiest thing to accomplish.
Anyway, Pochettino is once again building an amazing side like he did at Spurs. His Psg team will have better depth and a stronger first 11. His man management ability will be tested like no other managers has seen with the likes of Sergio Ramos, Neymar, Pogba, Mbappe, and so on in his dressing room.
Regardless, this team he is building will be iconic like the Milian that had Ronaldinho, the galactico Madrid side, United with Ronaldo, and Barcelona with msn and xabi and Iniesta.
-----------------Navas/Donamura------------------
Hakimi - Ramos/Kimpembe - Marquinois - Benat
------Verratti/Wijinaldum -- Paredes/Gueye----------
---Di Maria --------- Pogba ---------- Neymar
--------------------------Mbappe ----------------
Dont think balance was brought up as an argument when PSG signed Messi. And Mbappe+Neymar did reach CL finals at PSG
As indicated in my post you quoted, his man management ability will be tested like it has never been tested before. I don't have to spell it out, but that clearly points to squad balance and chemistry issue. As stated, I understand how real football works. Pochettino might have lots of star studded players but forming a cohesive unit with them will be very difficult to accomplish.
Pochettino got mbappe and neymar to the semi final last season. The inclusion of Messi just added more dysfunction. In reality, they could get away with just two, but idealing the team should be built around mbappe with quality worksman around him like Bernardo silva, foden, and so on. Messi/neymar and mbappe can work in occasion, but the three is just overkill
Brilliant performance, probably the best football played this week. Man if it wasn't for defensive errors, I feel confident that psg would have won the champion league. Pochettino will have to take control of their transfer activity and ensure they get a proper defenders next summer alongside Marquinhos. Their only goal conceded again was by an error.
You are mildly amusing, I respect your love for Poch, easily my favourite Spurs manager of my life time. But your ability to spin EVERYTHING pro Poch is quite frankly mind boggling. You have no balance, no real reality to your argument and that’s why no one really takes you seriously.
Lorient? They are a level below a Championship side. PSG have arguably the best frontline in the world, you have to be a troll, have to be.It really was an incredible feat of management, dragging them to the final with those two dead weights.
This post actually starts off pretty well, but then you say this..... If you watched both highlights.....
Yeah! If they hadn't lost that match against Real Madrid and won their next 5 matches against top opponents in the CL they would have won it. I'm sure of it. Especially considering how consistant their performances has been under Poch....
Good game and result vs. the 16th best team in France at home on Sunday too. Most people were expecting Lorient to get their 7th win of the season, but PSG really showed them.
My heart skips a beat every time I see this thread bumped.
Why do I want recognition from people on this forum? If you checked my post history, I have been right moreso than I have been wrong when I got in an argument on here. Heck, people seem to have short memories because the same people who didn't take my post seriously when I stated that Ole wasn't the right manager are the same people who still doesn't take my post seriously. I am not bothered by that, which is why I have always remained consistent.
The performance regardless of the team level is still impressive and if you believe they are a level below championship side, then you must not watch the play as much.
Yea, psg has been consistent that is why they are walking the league and before the lost to rennes they had the longest win record of any top club this season. Moreover, I don't believe psg has lost at home yet this season. Can you verify that for a team that isn't consistent
? They even manage to beat Manchester city at home as well.I wouldn't worry. Whether it's him or the other guy they'll be sacked within two seasons.
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Spin this @Amadaeus
https://footyaccumulators.com/news/mauricio-pochettinos-record-against-members-of-the-big-six
Looking forward to reading what you do with it!
https://footyaccumulators.com/news/mauricio-pochettinos-record-against-members-of-the-big-six
Looking forward to reading what you do with it!
Come on mate. Compare spurs budget and squad quality to the other top six teams. Even west ham, Aston villa and few other mid table club outspent spurs during his time there. Expectations are different when comparing a club like spurs to the other big club. Heck the only reason they have been labeled a top six was because of the achievements poch did at spurs. Before him it was a top three or four and now after him, it seems to be back to a top three.
When he went to psg with a club with bigger expectations and budgets, his record against top clubs has improved significantly. He has beaten real Madrid, Manchester city, juventus, bayern Munich, and many other top clubs.
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