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The BBC reports:
"Friday's Financial Times leads with reports that aluminium producer Rusal has become the first Russian group to call for an inquiry into alleged war crimes in Ukraine.
Ukraine says more than 300 civilians were killed by the Russians in Bucha, although Moscow denies any involvement.
Unlike a number of other Russian companies, Rusal is not the target of sanctions, although its billionaire founder Oleg Deripaska is.
The war in Ukraine and the backlash against it have also wreaked havoc on Rusal's supply chains.
In a statement on Wednesday, it wrote that it was shocked by reports from the city of Bucha in recent days.
"We support an objective and impartial investigation of this crime and call for severe punishment for the perpetrators. No matter how hard it may seem in the context of ongoing information war," it said."
"Friday's Financial Times leads with reports that aluminium producer Rusal has become the first Russian group to call for an inquiry into alleged war crimes in Ukraine.
Ukraine says more than 300 civilians were killed by the Russians in Bucha, although Moscow denies any involvement.
Unlike a number of other Russian companies, Rusal is not the target of sanctions, although its billionaire founder Oleg Deripaska is.
The war in Ukraine and the backlash against it have also wreaked havoc on Rusal's supply chains.
In a statement on Wednesday, it wrote that it was shocked by reports from the city of Bucha in recent days.
"We support an objective and impartial investigation of this crime and call for severe punishment for the perpetrators. No matter how hard it may seem in the context of ongoing information war," it said."
One of those retired generals that tweet had a thread about Russia’s strategical options and this is the pincer move he described. He said it would be very difficult with Russia’s logistical problems but they may try it.
Nice reference to a good movie. I hope there will be more of those along the way.
Something has to be done quickly to support those 30,000 Ukrainian troops. With that kind of open terrain, they will definitely need such heavy weapons.
High treason in a time of war… that won’t go well for them.
Take a page outta the old WWII playbook and hit the pincers in the flank as their logistics train becomes extended. Suddenly the hunter becomes the hunted.
The Fox News reporter who was injured when the other reporter and cameraman with him were killed by the Russians.
Gotta say that historians are right when they say that Russia will only yield when they lose everything on the battlefield.
It took the fall of Port Arthur, a total defeat at the Battle of Mukden (which was the largest battle ever fought until WW1), and the loss of an entire fleet at Tsushima in order - all of them combining into total humiliation to bring Russia to its knees in front of Japan almost 117 years ago. Does Putin even want to go there by pushing his own luck too far just like the deranged idiot that was Nicholas II did? We all know how it ended up for Nicholas even though his demise didn't come until March 1918.
It took the fall of Port Arthur, a total defeat at the Battle of Mukden (which was the largest battle ever fought until WW1), and the loss of an entire fleet at Tsushima in order - all of them combining into total humiliation to bring Russia to its knees in front of Japan almost 117 years ago. Does Putin even want to go there by pushing his own luck too far just like the deranged idiot that was Nicholas II did? We all know how it ended up for Nicholas even though his demise didn't come until March 1918.
In a normal war I'd totally agree with you. But we're talking about soldiers who've been sent under orders to commit a genocide. Ethically you have to balance the possibility of any Russian soldier going back to Russia after a peace deal and then coming back in 2 years time to further the genocide.
Has this Medvedev fantasy been reported on elsewhere?
He apparently talks of creating a Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon!
@harms can you verify?
Completely mad?
He apparently talks of creating a Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon!
@harms can you verify?
Completely mad?
There was that really interesting tweet thread a while ago that showed they don't have the demographics anymore to just throw thousands of men to pointless deaths. The kind of generations of cannon fodder they had through the centuries don't exist now.
His words have a slightly different connotation — he's not talking about creating a new unified state or something like that. But he's talking about a scenario where the entire Eurasia is a relatively homogenous space, obviously, even though he doesn't say it out loud in this case, united by the same (Russian) cultural & political values. Basically expanding the infamous Pax Rossica.
Medvedev said:
Peskov looks like the bastard child of David Moyes and Barry Chuckle. Now there's an image you didn't want on a Friday morning.
Maybe but have you seen his daughter?
Nope, does she look more like Uncle Paul?
I hope so since current Russian casualties are already a colossal demographic disaster in itself. But the fact that Putin raised the age for volunteering military service to males up to 60 years of age is quite worrying as to how far his ego is driving him. What would be next after mobilizing old men? Women? Teenagers? I swear I don't even want to imagine that, but the possibility exists with that man in charge and the propaganda machine still on overdrive.
Gross.
Please redirect this aspect to the war crimes thread
Russia attacked Kramatorsk station with a missile this morning. Their ministry of defence initially claimed credit, before rowing back after reports came through of the scale of the civilian casualties.
Head of local military administration says 39 dead and 87 wounded:
Hope this is on topic enough, without delving into wider discussion on war crimes.
Head of local military administration says 39 dead and 87 wounded:
Hope this is on topic enough, without delving into wider discussion on war crimes.
You would think at some point the Russian military would realize that their limited supply of precision weapons would be better spent on the Ukrainian Army, considering that’s who is currently kicking their asses back into Russia, but with the way they’ve conducted this whole invasion you’d also immediately think that maybe the Russians just don’t know what the hell they’re doing.
I can only facepalm myself in total exasperation when I see news of Russian strikes hitting obvious civilian targets such as Kramatorsk station.
That begs the still-unanswered question as to who is commanding in that madhouse. A proper competent general in charge would not allow any waste of valuable weaponry on civilians instead of the real opposition.
That begs the still-unanswered question as to who is commanding in that madhouse. A proper competent general in charge would not allow any waste of valuable weaponry on civilians instead of the real opposition.
its like they want Nato to enter , to give them an excuse for loosing the war.
Either their weapons can't target, or they have no good intel on the Ukrainian Army, or they just want to try a terror campaign (besides the sheer immorality, never works). In any case they're incompetent criminal fecks. I hope NATO steps up assistance in terms of arms, intelligence and anything else that can be done to smash them in the east.
Edit: feck it
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There's a US bill about to pass congress that offers lend lease to Ukraine until this conflict ends.
Quite right. From reports a week or so ago, it was clear that there is no theatre level military commander coordinating the whole invasion. Seems the whole thing is being conducted ad hoc based on whims of local commanders and whoever shouts loudest in Moscow.
Agreed. I’m torn between believing that they know they’re going to lose and are therefore spitefully causing as much damage as possible or they believe their own bullshit and think this is actually an effective war strategy.
I can take a guess who's commanding the whole show, roleplaying a certain gent that declared himself head of Stavka in July 1941. Haven't dictators always thought they know best about all things?
(I know that as the war progressed Stalin became a bit more tolerant to actually listening to his generals, while the man in Berlin became a bit less).
The BBC reports:
"The European Union has agreed further sanctions targeting Russia.
The EU says this fifth package of "restrictive measures" is aimed at ramping up economic pressure on the Kremlin and aims to "cripple its ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine".
The latest sanctions package includes:
"The European Union has agreed further sanctions targeting Russia.
The EU says this fifth package of "restrictive measures" is aimed at ramping up economic pressure on the Kremlin and aims to "cripple its ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine".
The latest sanctions package includes:
- An import ban on all forms of Russian coal
- A full transaction ban and asset freeze on four Russian banks
- A ban on Russian and Belarusian freight road operators working in the EU
- Excluding Russia from procurement contracts
Are you thinking of one by Kamil Galeev, I think his name was? He's done a number of quite interesting ones with a slightly different slant.
Thread on EU and the gas stop.
He compares it to EU telling Ireland, Greece among others to do drastic measures 10 years ago when the EU bailed them out of recession. Germany probably doesn’t see the analogy in the same way.
He compares it to EU telling Ireland, Greece among others to do drastic measures 10 years ago when the EU bailed them out of recession. Germany probably doesn’t see the analogy in the same way.
I read the same piece. The retired US general seemed to think that the Ukrainians would badly struggle in the wide open terrain in this part of the country, unless they could be kitted-out with heavy armour (Soviet era tanks) asap. It's a very different battle to the one they have been successfully fighting in urban and semi-urban areas elsewhere in the country, and one where the Russian armour and artillery will be far more effective.
If the Russian pincer succeeds, those c.30k Ukrainian troops (reportedly some of the best units in the Ukrainian armed forces) will be totally surrounded and cut-off from any supply lines. It would presumably be the end of them and the end of Donbas.
The BBC reports:
"Ukrainian forces have retaken Sumy, says regional governor
Elsewhere in Ukraine, the governor of the Sumy region in the north-east of the country says the Ukrainian military has regained full control of the area.
Dmytro Zhyvytskyy wrote on social media that Russian forces had withdrawn from Sumy but he warned residents against returning before mines were cleared.
The city, which is close to the Russian border, was the scene of heavy bombardment and fighting early in the invasion.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said this morning that Russian forces have now fully withdrawn from northern Ukraine.
"Ukrainian forces have retaken Sumy, says regional governor
Elsewhere in Ukraine, the governor of the Sumy region in the north-east of the country says the Ukrainian military has regained full control of the area.
Dmytro Zhyvytskyy wrote on social media that Russian forces had withdrawn from Sumy but he warned residents against returning before mines were cleared.
The city, which is close to the Russian border, was the scene of heavy bombardment and fighting early in the invasion.
Britain's Ministry of Defence said this morning that Russian forces have now fully withdrawn from northern Ukraine.
The European Union has agreed further sanctions targeting Russia.
The EU says this fifth package of "restrictive measures" is aimed at ramping up economic pressure on the Kremlin and aims to "cripple its ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine".
The latest sanctions package includes:
These Western sanctions need to step up to the max. I can't believe there are still Russian banks that have not been sanctioned. What are we waiting for exactly?
Sanction all of them and cut them all from SWIFT, except the one which we need to pay the gas (blood) money to.
The EU says this fifth package of "restrictive measures" is aimed at ramping up economic pressure on the Kremlin and aims to "cripple its ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine".
The latest sanctions package includes:
- An import ban on all forms of Russian coal
- A full transaction ban and asset freeze on four Russian banks
- A ban on Russian and Belarusian freight road operators working in the EU
- Excluding Russia from procurement contracts
These Western sanctions need to step up to the max. I can't believe there are still Russian banks that have not been sanctioned. What are we waiting for exactly?
Sanction all of them and cut them all from SWIFT, except the one which we need to pay the gas (blood) money to.