How do you know it was the far left, whoever they are.
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How do you know it was the far left, whoever they are.
There have been many times when Johnson has wriggled out of problems, but personally with the inevitable vote of no confidence coming up as well as 2 by elections this month, this MAY be the beginning of the end
I think it was probably a joke.
Although I would prefer a constitutional monarchy, as we do, do 'pomp and circumstance', very well as we've seen presently, but it would need to be underpinned by a written constitution that defines the hereditary nature and what happens if it fails. However when you look at the who owns most of the valuable land in the UK, and where their ownership is derived from, it is likely that little short of a revolution will bring about a change.
So maybe the republican model/ approach is the only one likely to succeed, without bloodshed, but it would have to have two things; one a dissolution of the House of Lords (don't forget Henry VIII had a 'dissolution solution' to one of his problems) and two, a proportional representation system rather than the current single transferable vote FPTP outcome.
Not going to disagree with any of that!
Not sure if it’s true but someone on Twitter is suggesting that all the events the Queen has missed recently we’re events Johnson was also attending.
It wouldn’t surprised me, she’s not really allowed to make overt political statements but I bet she was feckin fewmin at him lying to her.
It wouldn’t surprised me, she’s not really allowed to make overt political statements but I bet she was feckin fewmin at him lying to her.
She’s fecking ill mate, I hate Boris as much as the next sound lad but Queeny is 97 and hasn’t a clue what day it is.
That’s probably Boris showing up to fill in for the queen?
The more likely reason is because there's a Clark Kent/Superman situation going on. By day; The Queen. By night; The Qunt.
Not a chance unfortunately.
She wanks to this guy every night.
i don't think i've ever seen someone typify the "devoted wife defends husband over orgy video" stereotype as much as Dorries does for Johnson and the feckers aren't even in a relationship.
She is genuinely disturbed.
i don't think i've ever seen someone typify the "devoted wife defends husband over orgy video" stereotype as much as Dorries does for Johnson and the feckers aren't even in a relationship.
She is genuinely disturbed.
That we know about, remember Edwina Currie, and John Major?!
I don't even think Currie was that love struck for old Johnny boy as Naddine is for Boris!!
simply because Johnson realised Dorries acts like this without any request. It's reflexive. Hence, the 'genuinely disturbed' part. He doesn't have to offer her anything but vague political power and she's turned in a "manson-esque" groupie.
We underestimate the true value of the royal family to the UK economy.
I have a close family member who lives in London and the number of overseas visitors who come to the UK especially because of the Queen is significant. As is their expenditure.
If for no other reason than that, they are literally worth their weight in gold.
I think the type of people who come to the UK solely because of the Queen are slowly dying off. I live in London and I’ve barely met a tourist under the age of 60 who has come because of the Queen.
We’d probably make more money if we opened up all the rooms to Buckingham Palace and such like anyway so I’m not sure they are worth their weight in gold from a tourist perspective.
It was just a saying about gold. I can only go by what I am told about the number of tourists and as you live in London, you may well be right.
But as for getting rid of the monarchy, be careful what you wish for.
I disagree. The tourist attractions would still remain. No one actually gets to meet them!
The attraction to a minority of tourists would remain in the form of historical royal buildings, Buckingham Palace etc.
Versailles is a massive tourist attraction, I don’t see a Monarchy returning to France any time soon.
People travel across the world to see the Pyramids, again, not too many Pharaohs around.
Some updates from today:
And then this:
And then this:
Seems it happened just about everywhere he went over the weekend. It must have been a very uncomfortable weekend for him, he had to face the public at an event he couldn’t stage manage and had to attend.
At this point, don't we want Boris to stay in until election time just to sabotage themselves?
We want a vote of no confidence to fail and Boris to lead the Tories to a disaster of a general election.
If Johnson wins a VONC there cannot be another one for 12 months under the current rules, which would be handy.
Didnt they ditch that rule to get May out? Or have I made that up?
The rule is still there. From memory they kept threatening a rule change until they hounded May out, but nothing got formally changed.
I'm not so sure...
He would need just over 180 votes to win
And if he wins by even one vote I don't think he will step down
If there was a really popular clear alternative I think he might struggle but he has something like 170 mps drawing some sort of government payroll... so I just don't think (unless something new and dramatic happens) that there will be the 120+ mps who did not send a letter to the 1922 but will vote against him
If he survives then he is safe for another year and by summer 2023 the conservatives might feel its too late to change anyway
If lab lib green (and snp?) Can form a progressive alliance committed to electoral reform and a pr system then stand down candidates against Johnson it could be a landslide in 2024 and potentially the last ever Conservative only government if pr is passed.
No doubt the opportunity will be missed so people can say sir Keith and sing oooooh Jeremy corbyn instead
The booing Boris was subjected to will have surprised him as well as his party.
He will just brush it off.
But those in his party will have understood the message.
So like you, I would still expect him to win a possible VONC, but by a smaller majority.
Him just saying he is getting on with the job is not cutting through anymore.
And he is no longer the vote winner he was.
I think Liz Truss will also be a disaster so I'd be happy with that.
He would need just under 60 MPs to vote for him, as there are 122 Government Ministers who can be whipped to vote in his favour.
This would suit me but I differ from most of the caf in that I think Labour can win the next election on it's own.
Recently the UK have managed to replace an incompetent PM with an even more incompetent PM. I also believe Liz Truss is so empty-headed that she is extremely dangerous too.
You’re on crack surely?