Wouldn't surprise me now if Merc finishes above Ferrari this season. They are making progress whilst Ferrari seems to be regressing now
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Bizarre take, what makes you think Ferrari are regressing? In fact they matched RB's straight line speed.
Consistency for me; making mistakes, car reliability etc.
The same Ferrari that drove 7 seconds up the road from the Mercedes in the space of 14 laps?
The same Ferrari that everyone said at the start would dominate this season, yet is 30 points ahead of Mercedes
Does that mean what you think it does. Ferrari have had 5 retirements so far to Mercedes 0 and yet are still ahead.
No one said they'd dominate, it's clearly been two very evenly matched teams at the front from the start.
See my response to Firestarter; car reliability is one factor I see being a thorn in Ferrari's side. 5 retirements in 9 races should be quite a concern, considering (from what I recall) they were all engine related and not crashes?
As I said in my first post, "It wouldn't surprise me" doesn't mean I think it's nailed on. We shall see after the summer break how Mercedes do with their car developments
I'm not sure it was that simple, Hamilton was only 2.1 seconds behind after 6 laps and then heavily dropped off. I suspect they turned down the engine as it was pointless fighting at that stage. If Sainz hadn't had DRS to stay with Verstappen it's difficult to know whether Hamilton would have kept behind or not. Leclerc also coudn't really massively gain on Russell who was slower than Hamilton for the last 14 laps, but he could have been slowed by Russell's car and also could have just accepted his position.
2 engine failures (both Leclerc), 1 hydraulic, 2 crashes
The more likely scenario is Ferrari finishes the season ahead. But if Mercedes somehow did then it would be a miraculous recovery after a torrid start
Factually speaking Red Bull have worse relaibility than Ferrari.
Red Bull have built a very healthy gap recently but could for sure flip again all things considered.
Quali pace might become a problem for them now that Ferrari are catching up in race pace.
Be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
4 vs 3 technical failures if I'm correct? My point of consistency isnt based on that alone, but can't argue against your response
Yeah it's 4v3 plus Red Bull also had Checo 30hp down in Miami with an issue.
So all in all they are a bit more unreliable so far.
Can't remember two leading teams failing as much as these two have done early into the season.
Anyway, My initial point was on Mercedes reliability vs Ferrari's so far. The Mercs may not be anywhere near the other two in terms of race speed, but the positive they can take they is have gone 9 races without breaking down compared to the 7 between RB & F
Its a long season, Ferrari are still in it but don't have the recent history of being a well run team to depend on. Redbull do. We can all agree that the Mercs were one of the best run teams in F1 history in almost every aspect. They've developed a lemon this year, but they are still a championship quality team. Ferrari will have to prove that they are capable of it. Early signs don't look good. But in the end, a quick car is a quick car. Ferrari do have a quick car. They also might have more developmental headroom in the later part of the season as both Redbull and Merc seem to have developed the car a lot earlier on.
I still expect Max to win DWC, but I'm hoping Carlos can get his act together as to at least get Ferrari a constructors win.
I still expect Max to win DWC, but I'm hoping Carlos can get his act together as to at least get Ferrari a constructors win.
Ferrari have updates coming for Silverstone according to christen horner.
If they can reduce their straight line deficit to RB and get sainz to stop cocking up they will win races. Will definitely finish ahead of Mercedes in Constructors.
Was anyone even talking about Red Bull?
If Mercedes finish above Ferrari I would be shocked. You’d expect Ferrari to address reliability concerns as the season progresses. Mercedes are no doubt making improvements and are reliable, but I think the differential at this stage is just too much. I’m rather hoping instead Ferrari can surpass Red Bull! Reliability is going to play a large role this year it seems.
Porsche engine supply for RB (2026) might be confirmed at Austrian GP in july.
Audi going to take Sauber or Williams as their Works outfit.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/113570/porsche-enters-f1-with-red-bull-racing-in-2026.html
Audi going to take Sauber or Williams as their Works outfit.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/113570/porsche-enters-f1-with-red-bull-racing-in-2026.html
He's still a friendly fun kid, but he's a competitor and a winner first and foremost. He actually has quite a cutting personality, he tells people very straight what he thinks and doesn't hold his tongue, I think that catches people by surprise.
He's gone from competing for podiums to kicking around 10th. The car is not performing well and the team are cocking up, it's not a surprise he's getting a bit pissed off.
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Used the N word on a stream apparently. Can't see him coming through into F1 anytime soon.
Thats what happens when you play cod, it devolves your brain.
Think McLaren and RB have been on to Lando and Max already about not streaming games live with friends.
Think McLaren and RB have been on to Lando and Max already about not streaming games live with friends.
that’s easier for max as i’d imagine he only has tom from myspace on his friends list.
That is true as is the statement that he's changed his behaviour on his team radio to be more dickish.
I think you'll find he always has been a dick
It's not new.Estonia gets like one driver a generation that gets the entire nations' hopes up as a F1 prospect. Good job flushing down your career, you absolute dumbass.
Bye bye career. What a dumb way to lose it. I saw the clip and tbf, I expected worse. Still stupid, though and he leaves RB with little choice.
Mercedes get more (10%) CFD and windtunnel time.
Mercedes moves from 70% of the aerodynamic testing limits governing windtunnel and CFD use for the first half of the year to 80% for the second.
TItle rivals Red Bull and Ferrari get a reduced allocation. They are both one place higher in the championship than they were at the end of last year and drop by one 5% step.
At the other end of the table, Williams has dropped from eighth in last year’s standings to its current 10th, meaning it goes from 105% of the allocation to 115%.
AlphaTauri and Aston Martin also gain by one 5% increment thanks to being one place lower in the standings now than they were at the end of last year.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mercedes-gets-aero-testing-boost-after-2022-f1-struggles/
Mercedes moves from 70% of the aerodynamic testing limits governing windtunnel and CFD use for the first half of the year to 80% for the second.
TItle rivals Red Bull and Ferrari get a reduced allocation. They are both one place higher in the championship than they were at the end of last year and drop by one 5% step.
At the other end of the table, Williams has dropped from eighth in last year’s standings to its current 10th, meaning it goes from 105% of the allocation to 115%.
AlphaTauri and Aston Martin also gain by one 5% increment thanks to being one place lower in the standings now than they were at the end of last year.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mercedes-gets-aero-testing-boost-after-2022-f1-struggles/
OK I will admit to not fully understand how this works, Mercedes and other get extra time in the wind tunnel now.Mercedes get more (10%) CFD and windtunnel time.
Mercedes moves from 70% of the aerodynamic testing limits governing windtunnel and CFD use for the first half of the year to 80% for the second.
TItle rivals Red Bull and Ferrari get a reduced allocation. They are both one place higher in the championship than they were at the end of last year and drop by one 5% step.
At the other end of the table, Williams has dropped from eighth in last year’s standings to its current 10th, meaning it goes from 105% of the allocation to 115%.
AlphaTauri and Aston Martin also gain by one 5% increment thanks to being one place lower in the standings now than they were at the end of last year.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mercedes-gets-aero-testing-boost-after-2022-f1-struggles/
How much extra ? I know 10% more but 10 % more of how long ?
than the time they had before.
I asked for that really
OH great just what we need another street track.
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Formula 1's global success continues to spur interest from venues and potential race promoters around the world.
The sport's calendar is reportedly set to expand to 24 races in 2023, with Las Vegas already signed up and F1 strongly expected to enjoy a historical return to Kyalami in South Africa.
As the sport enjoys an unprecedented level of commercial and territorial growth, requests for new races continue to flow in with Madrid the latest destination to throw its hat in the ring.
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The city of Madrid has informed Formula One Management that it is committed to bringing Grand Prix racing to the streets of the capital of Spain in the future.
Formula 1's global success continues to spur interest from venues and potential race promoters around the world.
The sport's calendar is reportedly set to expand to 24 races in 2023, with Las Vegas already signed up and F1 strongly expected to enjoy a historical return to Kyalami in South Africa.
As the sport enjoys an unprecedented level of commercial and territorial growth, requests for new races continue to flow in with Madrid the latest destination to throw its hat in the ring.
https://f1i.com/news/445814-madrid-...4L1OOjoKRre9qi9VBjQ2pP2cfypr35byrkGBfphNUqPPA
They get 256 runs in the wind tunnel in the next 6 months compared to the 224 they had in the previous 6 months.
Whereas Red Bull go from 240 to 224 and Ferrari from 256 to 240.
Alfa Romeo got the worst deal, they've lost almost 50 runs.
Whereas Red Bull go from 240 to 224 and Ferrari from 256 to 240.
Alfa Romeo got the worst deal, they've lost almost 50 runs.
Cheers, bit of googling I have found out a run is 15 mins.
I also found out a wind tunnel is expensive
How much does a F1 wind tunnel cost? Formula 1 teams invest approximately $60-100 million to build their own wind tunnels at their factory to develop the aerodynamics of their cars. Tunnels that are more sophisticated and expensive typically use one large fan.
feck off Spain we only just got rid of that gash Valencia track
i heard red bull harvest the breath of orphans and then shoot that at the cars in the wind tunnels, instead of using fans. they use their tears to simulate wet runs too.
I also found this when looking at wind tunnel times, about drivers peeing during a race.
https://www.grandtournation.com/mot...-pee-in-his-racing-suit-the-secret-explained/
https://www.grandtournation.com/mot...-pee-in-his-racing-suit-the-secret-explained/